The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Rathwell]

Yeah, but one of those 4 shots supposedly showcased Khaz Algar. (...)

Is that not just conjecture? I don't believe we conclusively know what any of the screens depict. We've four screen caps of what may be four separate zones, which we do not have the names or stories of (if we're just going off the base leak)

I am not personally convinced all the leaks tie together neatly at least, what I'm willing to believe at the moment is that the four screens may be real

I see no reason to believe any of the screens are of Khaz Algar

[Catastrophy349]

That alongside Broken Shore, Stormheim, Highmountain, Val'Sharath (sp?), and Suramar, and yeah it looked pretty damn good.

In what context? Take a single image from any of the zones you just mentioned above, and let's say those images are all captured in a "dead area (nothing really happening)." That tells you that it's going to be "pretty damn good?"

[justwatching]

Yeah, but one of those 4 shots supposedly showcased Khaz Algar. I highly doubt Blizzard wouldn't put the architecture of that zone front and center.

For all we know these are either:

1.) Random screenshots someone took from the features trailer

2.) Are just 4 of many images from the press package.

I dont know why you are assuming these 4 images are the only promo material theyll have for the new zones.

[Nibelheimy]

By the time we hit MoP we knew quite well who and what the Pandaren were and what their culture was. Also Pandaren were one of the most requested playable races, so yeah part of the reason Blizzard made that expansion was to give players playable Pandaren, and a Monk class.

You originally said a 'Lore reason' and thats what I quoted you on, are you still trying to say that Playable Pandaren are a lore reason or not?

Yeah, but here's the difference; We didn't know anything about the dragon isles, but we knew a ton about the dragons that came from there. Further we had long established relationships with those characters.

Alex, Kalecgos, Wrathion, Chromie, Ebyssian, and Nozdormu picked up the slack for the isles being a huge mystery, because they weren't a mystery and we had worked and fought alongside them for several expansions by 10.0.

I don't see how that's relevant at all for a lore reason to go the the Dragon Isles? At 7 days before announcement we had no 'lore reason' to go to the dragon isles. We also have Thrall who you yourself have been pushing to be the centrefold, lots of important named Dwarves and plenty of relevant keepers that could be included. All of which we've interacted with in previous expansions. Especially Muradin being involved with the Frostborne in Northrend. Hindsight is an amazing thing.

Why would Iridikron need the heretics to rally support when he has the void version of the dragon soul and potentially an Old God working with him? What are the heretics going to do for him that he can't currently do himself? It's like Daenerys in GoT rallying support from the nobles of Westeroes when she already has 3 dragons.

Considering Daenerys wanted to try and keep the seven kingdoms intact this isn't really an at all appropriate comparison. Daenerys and Iridikron are in no way comparable characters in the first place. Ima try and use some brain power here, but maybe he'll have to channel the void soul into some titan facility, and he needs some fodder to handle us while he does that. It really doesnt take much to imagine any sort of storyline here.

[Woggmer]

I don't think an expansion can be carried by Goblins and Gnomes. Also the Wall Market is such a tiny piece of a much grander thing. I don't think anyone takes Don Corneo seriously anyway.

I don't know... I remember back in BFA, people were more interested in Mechagon than Nazjatar (mostly because it had much better dailies than Nazjatar's [The bouncing jellyfish mini-game still haunts me] and had jetpackss which meant early flying.)

If they can make Pandaren interesting and carry an expansion, they could do the same for goblins... (I don't know about gnomes though, gnomes have had a bad rep since as far back as Vanilla... especially when Gnome Punting was a thing.)

[Ferlion]

Just for the lulz.

[Izalla]

By the time we hit MoP we knew quite well who and what the Pandaren were and what their culture was. Also Pandaren were one of the most requested playable races, so yeah part of the reason Blizzard made that expansion was to give players playable Pandaren, and a Monk class.

Ummm, sir, that's because the expansion had been announced. Blizz had given us all the lore and background we needed to appreciate that this was a location worth going to. We didn't know any of that before the expansion was announced, and justification revealed. Before that we had nothing. Unlike right now where we can speculate all kinds of reasons we may want or need to seek out Avaloren. We know Odyn wants to find it, we can guess that maybe Iridikron knows something about it and is going there so we need to hunt him down, or maybe we just join that crew Nightsquall is putting together so we can plunder so riches for funsies and then we get into all sorts of trouble over there. That's more to go on than we had when we knew the title "Mists of Pandaria", and I might even be wrong about all three suggested reasons. But why would we know that right now, when we haven't even defeated Fyrakk yet? We're busy on the Dragon Isles right now, lorewise, and we haven't even had the expac announcement yet. We SHOULD be in the dark right now if Blizz wants us to be. If they want us to know more, in game, they will put it in game before the expansion is over.

[Dismayxz]

Oh, sorry, I must have missed your original point and conflated you with someone else in that case. My bad!

All good, you still unironically made your point a whole lot faster and a whole lot better than the other guy, I'm still waiting. And I agree.

[ro9ue]

Just for the lulz.

This person is even more insane than me.

[Cheezits]

Just for the lulz.

Because the rocks are one of the few new assets they made for the expansion?

The expansion being ugly and lazy shouldn't be maddening.

[Izalla]

Just for the lulz.

Poor Zel there having an existential crisis.

[NoTimeToDie5426]

Not saying I disagree, however, it's very hard not to have a "bias" toward that image considering Legion has come and gone at this point. My major point is the fact that I doubt any of us (myself included) can look at any of these 4 images (if real) and say whether or not 11.0 is going to be awful/amazing. It's just nonsense.

Well the leaked images seem to be Azeroth based locations, and less Shadowlands/Other dimension themed, so that immediately checks off one of my biggest requirements for being a possibly good xpac. Not saying it will be, but I am rather excited seeing them at this point.

[Kiivar86]

Because the rocks are one of the few new assets they made for the expansion?

The expansion being ugly and lazy shouldn't be maddening.

I think its more that the person is realizing that since they can't find the rocks anywhere that it is indicating it is real and they're not happy that it is actually legit.

[Teriz]

In what context? Take a single image from any of the zones you just mentioned above, and let's say those images are all captured in a "dead area (nothing really happening)." That tells you that it's going to be "pretty damn good?"

You want me to post the Legion zones from the preview trailer? Okay...

Azuna (again);



Stormheim:



Highmountain;



Val'Sharah



Suramar;

[Rathwell]

Just for the lulz.

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This Zelryn person seems a little bonkers. I never found her previous "debunk" of The Four™ convincing, seems driven by a real strong willingness to disbelieve.

[Ebonn]

It isn’t valid because it’s from a video over 10 years old, and if you don’t think anything changes from technology, presentation or marketing in over 10 years then I honestly don’t know what to tell you.

It’s in fact, a very disingenuous argument.

Just cause you don’t agree with it doesn’t make it invalid or disingenuous. It’s 100% a valid point to make. Also it wasn’t my point to begin with so go fight them not me.

[justwatching]

This person is even more insane than me.

I need to bookmark that account thats gonna be content if this turns out to be real.

This Zelryn person seems a little bonkers. I never found her previous "debunk" of The Four™ convincing, seems driven by a real strong willingness to disbelieve.

Yeah some of the things this person points out are way to low quality in the original image to make any conclusive statement about.

[Cheezits]

I think its more that the person is realizing that since they can't find the rocks anywhere that it is indicating it is real and they're not happy that it is actually legit.

Oh yeah, no, I get it too. But better to get the rage out at Dragonflight 2/OCshit Expansion 3-In-A-Row now than be disappointed for Blizzcon.

I for one probably won't even be watching now. This really fucking blows if it's legit and Blizz deserves all the shit its getting for every minute it doesn't debunk it.

[Ferlion]

This person is even more insane than me.

lol. I just figure their "I found these" aspects were posted, so the "I can't find these" should be as well.

[Izalla]

Because the rocks are one of the few new assets they made for the expansion?

The expansion being ugly and lazy shouldn't be maddening.

I think they are mad because they were hyper convinced before that point that literally everything was reused and thus fake because how lame is that to have nothing new? Until they stumbled on the rocks, which are the most boring thing to actually be unique. They're just rocks, and not interesting looking rocks. No one is getting excited over some rocks. If Blizz reused assets for everything interesting or big and showy and important, but made custom yet totally boring rocks of all things, I think I would find that maddening as well. UNLESS THEY ARE ROCKS FROM THE WORLD REVAMP BLIZZ IS PRIORITIZING D=