The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dismayxz]

What if this IS 10.3, which is why they are hyping more than usual (a new "continent" for a patch zone/addition) and then Scaleface's AI hints are 11.0? And we're being shown both. Avaloren could still be a major continent, like we've discussed at some point, but have a lot of sections outside of these 4 Zones locked, that you just can't get to until 11.0?

[TeamWorldRevamp]

The bottom two screenshots could unironically be from revamped Durotar/Stonetalon Mountains and Un'Goro Crater.

I need your copium, guys.

[Explicit Teemo Nudes]

I'm still confused on how Harpies are in Avaloren

How do you know they are in Avaloren?

[Picle]

What if this IS 10.3, which is why they are hyping more than usual and then Scaleface's AI hints are 11.0? And we're being shown both.

not even real leaks can derail the hype train :Þ

[PotHockets]

This is the only part that's throwing me off the 10.3 theory. Seems strange to advertise a new continent in a patch reveal trailer.

Closest we've ever gotten to something that large as patch content is Argus and that just says "Argus: Homeworld of the Legion"

[Nightshade711]

Yeah, because we have some posters who are doomers by nature. I'm not a doomer and tend to be rather optimistic towards WoW's future, so if I'm calling it lazy, that's not a good sign.

You’ve been pretty doomer about anything that wasn’t “your” idea tbh.

I think it would’ve been more lazy to use a location we’ve essentially been to twice before for an expansion (Kezan/Undermine) Likely they’d just reuse a bunch of existing assets, maybe with a fresh coat of paint.

Your “its bad because I think it is!” is a fallacy. Pretty sure I remember you saying the same about Demon Hunters and a “Draconic humanoid race that served the dragons” (which you added “nobody wants to play a ‘slave race’ when that’s exactly what the Dracthyr were)

[milkmustache]

This is the only part that's throwing me off the 10.3 theory. Seems strange to advertise a new continent in a patch reveal trailer.

I think it's also strange they'd called it a "new continent" if it only consists of 4 zones, when other areas like this haven't used that kind of language afaik

[pacotaco]

truu. tho Argus was a progression of the story that non-lore-nerds could pick up. 10.2.5 would have to be chonky with lore to make the connection to Avaloren

No problem: We restore Tyr in 10.2, he can be the link to point us to the new place Iridikron wants to hit.

[Dismayxz]

I think it's also strange they'd called it a "new continent" if it only consists of 4 zones, when other areas like this haven't used that kind of language afaik

Well to be fair, what would've sounded better for Argus?

Argus: Homeworld of the Legion

or announcing

New Planet: Argus.

[micwini]

I think it's also strange they'd called it a "new continent" if it only consists of 4 zones, when other areas like this haven't used that kind of language afaik

Kul Tiras and Zandalar greet you.

[Raetary]

I think it's also strange they'd called it a "new continent" if it only consists of 4 zones, when other areas like this haven't used that kind of language afaik

KT and Zand are only 3 zones each, yet the trailer names them both continents.

Same with the Broken isles, which had only 5 zones.

[milkmustache]

Well to be fair, what would've sounded better for Argus?

Argus: Homeworld of the Legion

or announcing

New Planet: Argus.

Oh obviously Argus: Homeworld of the Legion, that sounds incredible.

I also don't think Argus would be similar to what I'm referring to, since it's patch content that in their gameplay theory would not be used much following it's cycle. So maybe the implication behind "New Continent: Avaloren" is that it's either far larger than we're being shown or led to believe, or it'll be evergreen and used in the future post-11.0

EDIT:

KT and Zand are only 3 zones each, yet the trailer names them both continents.

Same with the Broken isles, which had only 5 zones.

I'm speaking out of my ass. You're totally right. To Avaloren we go.

[Cheezits]

There's no way they just add 10.3 in.

[Xorgz]

If this Avaloren leak is actually 10.3..... and we're going to get an 11.0 Void/Revamp reveal AND a Classic+ announcement......WoW will finally be saved (hoping & praying & coping).

[Teriz]

You’ve been pretty doomer about anything that wasn’t “your” idea tbh.

I think it would’ve been more lazy to use a location we’ve essentially been to twice before for an expansion (Kezan/Undermine) Likely they’d just reuse a bunch of existing assets, maybe with a fresh coat of paint.

Uh, we’ve never been or even seen Undermine before, and it’s doubtful such a location would reuse assets on the level we’ve seen in these screenshots.

Your “its bad because I think it is!” is a fallacy.

No, it’s bad because it’s clearly a rehash of existing content. It’s so bad that people here can identify the exact reused asset on a tiny screenshot and give us the name of the asset used.

You’ll excuse me if I don’t believe Blizzard is that lazy. If they are (now) that lazy, this game is in a lot of trouble.

[Kiria]

The copium for what now dawns on people might be a leak for this to be 10.3 is real lol.

[Demonly]

I am officially fully into these images being a 3 zone new "continent" on Azeroth for 10.3

- All the assets are Dragonflight/older, and required minimal effort to put in.
- This place was referenced at the start of Dragonflight.
- The fact that we still haven't been to "Uldaz" yet and an item was introduced in 10.1.5 that references it as a use-effect place.
- We've seen where they've added a 3 zone patch before in the past (legion 7.3 -- hey a .3 patch that added in 3 zones)

[Draedarr]

Considering that showing a 10.3 Patch and in the same event a 11.0 that will be the aftermath of 10.3 would not make any sense.
And even more that 10.2 comes after Blizzcon oO

[ercarp]

The amount of people who think re-used asset = fake really goes to show they just have absolutely zero clue how game development works. Re-use of assets is very normal for a game development cycle. Do you expect 10000 new tree models and textures for them too any time there is a new continent? Whoever brings up "re-used" assets as an excuse that something is fake is not to be taken seriously.

I'm not trying to say it's fake because of reused assets, just pointing out that it's a bit unusual for Blizzard to carry this many "old" assets forward into a new expansion. I'm no expert on this obviously (that would be @Marlamin), but when I look at the game files on something like WoW.tools, it looks like they've always made dozens of new assets for a new expansion. Even for things like trees and plants, which they could easily "get away" with reusing.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

10.3 is dead, the game model is going to Tom Chilton and Bobby Koticks Annual Expansion format!