The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Wangming]

Charging people for a 6 month long expansion will be received by the playerbase worse than Diablo Immortal's announcement.

Don't you guys have wallets?

[JMitchy96]

Yep, this and the other screens are the real leaks for me, look way too on point to be fake.

It can be fake for sure, but it reminds of dragonflight leak, we had the pics and everyone was saying it was fake even bringing ''proof" with photoshop shenanigans, or saying the style of the stone dude wasn't warcraft-ish. This look like the same case

I get your point and you're 100% right this is exactly how the DF leaks went down. But realistically, what does this actually prove other than the fact the same person is behind both leaks?

[micwini]

What would this climax be though. Tyr?

Iridikron and his schemes

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

And the Allied races do not look like original reskinned races? Look at the Draenie vs Lightforged Draenie or the Dwarf vs Dark Iron Dwarves. What are you on about dude? That has been the case since forever.

I think the shots look great and each zone is contrasting well. I believe its just "doom and gloom" because people are trying to cope because its not what they wished for or wanted.

Read again. The issue is not the reused assets, but the lack of *anything* that would be considered original. Let's go back to the Dracthyr leaks and how unlike *anything* in WoW they looked, yet in a WoW setting. That's what made them so believable (and made so much people go into denial, lol)

Personally I *like* what the screenshots are showing, I would like to go there, it looks nice! I'm just explaining why some people get the feeling these might be fake.

Sure they could be real, I'm just giving the reasons why they are giving people pause.

[micwini]

LoL! Fake as hell.

Also that name is terrible.

I mean we've had mists of pandaria, which is also <weather occurance> of <continent>

[Kiivar86]

Gonna be amusing in a bit when these images prove to be real.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Charging people for a 6 month long expansion will be received by the playerbase worse than Diablo Immortal's announcement.

Guess I should've said 1 year (12 Months) for 12.0 seems likely to be the move if we are going for a May launch next year for 11.0.

I still find it fascinating the setup Blizzard has done if this is how it actually goes though lol. Completely different vibe than what is presented through PR/Marketing.

[Draedarr]

Don't you guys have wallets?

[ercarp]

They made a huge amount of new assets for Dragonflight (like 200 trees alone...), yeah, but at the same time have also started reusing things from previous expansions if they still look good enough and not out of place. If there's a reason to make new assets they will, but if the zones look similar to DF ones I can see them mostly reusing assets just fine.

There's also the whole thing where, since it's still the reveal, final assets might not be in place yet, even DF's reveal had a bunch of unfinished assets.

All in all nothing that really concludes anything either way.

That's interesting. If they made that many new assets for Dragonflight, maybe they were always planning to reuse them going forward.

Good to get your take on this, and sorry for tagging you like a billion times.

[J Street]

World revamp truthers aside, I'm a bit confused about what exactly people want from a new expansion zone wise. Whenever an extremely out of the box zone comes along, I always see people talk about how it doesn't FEEL like warcraft or it doesn't FEEL like azeroth. The leaked screenshots definitely feel terrestrial, and very plausible/in-line with azeroths aesthetic, but most people feel it's boring, disappointing, bland, phoned it. What new biomes could blizzard create that are both fresh and azerothy at this point that haven't been done? I guess I'm just trying to understand, respectfully lol

[Moth Preacher]

The Haglands in Highmountain have almost (or completely) exactly the same harpies, totems and lanterns. Like 90% of the composition is a reused asset - something weird for a presentation. I'm not even sure whether I want to be mistaken or not lol

[milkmustache]

wait remember that stone-ogre looking race from that other past leak?

I'm going to continue to be stubborn and call this an insanely good fake. I think these were both made by the same person/people. The webpage looks incredible, but there are some giveaways to me that I would consider it to not be real; certain spacing issues that don't adhere to both Blizzard's tendencies and modern web design. I think this is the fake of all fakes, and they've absolutely killed it.

Somewhere deep in my gut I know I'm wrong and I'm looking at 11.0, but I feel the need to argue against.

[Mhyroth]

Blizzard is probably feeling sad right now. They haven’t announced their expansion yet and they’ve already crap it. It's like if your mom showed your photo to a girl you like and she said he's ugly. You haven't met yet and she's already rejected you

Slightly OT, but I felt that part about the mum and the picture.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Yeah, this is what my rambling about the money shot was trying to convey, but you did it a lot better.

If i wanted to leak stuff, I would leak something interesting. Not just "Bugger me sideways, looks like 11.0 will have trees and rocks."

It's the "coincidentally, none of this screenshots have any completely new assets" that's just... off. It makes my senses tingle.

I might be wrong and it really is a coincidence if it's real, but hey, that's the vibe it's giving: a pretty good fake that uses already existing, slightly modified assets.

The dwarf model is pretty cool! But there's a bunch of 3D artists out there than have already done stuff like that. Something that looks high quality but also original -like Dracthyr were when leaked- would be the closes to a smoking gun we could get (and even then people weren't buying it)

[flan1337]

I'm going to continue to be stubborn and call this an insanely good fake. I think these were both made by the same person/people. The webpage looks incredible, but there are some giveaways to me that I would consider it to not be real; certain spacing issues that don't adhere to both Blizzard's tendencies and modern web design. I think this is the fake of all fakes, and they've absolutely killed it.

Somewhere deep in my gut I know I'm wrong and I'm looking at 11.0, but I feel the need to argue against.

I find the webpage leak so fishy - but that blurry guy looking like the webpage is a huge red flag. Maybe they where extremely lucky?

[Dismayxz]

Yep, this and the other screens are the real leaks for me, look way too on point to be fake.

It can be fake for sure, but it reminds of dragonflight leak, we had the pics and everyone was saying it was fake even bringing ''proof" with photoshop shenanigans, or saying the style of the stone dude wasn't warcraft-ish. This look like the same case

I had a person I asked (Very, VERY talented Hobby Artist) say that the Gloves don't look the same on the Dwarf-Ogre Dude (the right hand from our PoV according to them was "missing that gold embelishment the other hand has) and because of that lack of symmetry, it can't be Blizzard because Blizzard always work symmetrically. Just like they said the fingers on the smaller dwarf were fake, because they looked off, like an AI Fake. Never once has anyone I asked ever considered that these were deliberate choices. They would rather discredit the entire thing over something so small it could be a deliberate art direction and when faced with that possibility, it immediately went to "Oh well, I guess Blizzard Artists are just shit at their job then"

[Rathwell]

Well if these four photos and bizarre Dwarf-ogre creature thing is fake, it's probably the best fake expansion leak I've seen to date through all the expansions

[Draedarr]

I'm going to continue to be stubborn and call this an insanely good fake. I think these were both made by the same person/people. The webpage looks incredible, but there are some giveaways to me that I would consider it to not be real; certain spacing issues that don't adhere to both Blizzard's tendencies and modern web design. I think this is the fake of all fakes, and they've absolutely killed it.

Somewhere deep in my gut I know I'm wrong and I'm looking at 11.0, but I feel the need to argue against.

The Ogre is posing in front of Gorgrond, so i think only if it was a allied race

[Dismayxz]

The Ogre is posing in front of Gorgrond, so i think only if it was a allied race

Nah, took that original image apart and went all over Gorgrond back then, for an hour. The TL;DR is, the whole topograhy of the Screenshot doesn't even match any place in Gorgrond period and the textures and assets are entirely different outside of both being the "Desert-y/Canyon-y" type.

Vol'dun has more fitting topography than the place the Dwarf-Ogre is posing in and even that doesn't fit because of the assets used.

[Sondrelk]

It's the "coincidentally, none of this screenshots have any completely new assets" that's just... off. It makes my senses tingle.

I might be wrong and it really is a coincidence if it's real, but hey, that's the vibe it's giving: a pretty good fake that uses already existing, slightly modified assets.

The dwarf model is pretty cool! But there's a bunch of 3D artists out there than have already done stuff like that. Something that looks high quality but also original -like Dracthyr were when leaked- would be the closes to a smoking gun we could get (and even then people weren't buying it)

Not just new assets being exciting, but potential iconic landmarks.
Doesn't even habe to be the main focus. Zones in WoW are usually so tightly contained that you would struggle to take pictures without anything in them.