The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

It’s like saying Mechagon and Mechagon city are different places.

More like saying that Rustbolt and Mechagon City are different places. Which they are. Just like Kezan and Undermine.

It really doesn’t but go off

And yet we have several posters here giving detailed explanations about how these shots are using a high-level of reused assets.

[Dismayxz]

Different top, but apart from that it is the same one

The cup is lacking the specific gold embelishment, the Orb is floating above the 'cup' section, rather than actually set into it, screen perspective says this one is also wider and taller (generally just bigger) than the other one. Ring floating around the top of the cup, in unison with the Orb. How are these the SAME? This is exactly what I said. People take one look "Looks samey, so .. same", when the entire make-up of the model, besides a few similarities is DISTINCTLY different. They are both titan pillars with an orb, yes. But the general theme isn't what sets them apart or makes them look "the same", it'd be the details. And the details are literally very distinctly different, from placements of asset portions to different parts that are there or not there depending on which one you want to take as the main comparison.. like.. HUH?

[NikolaiShade]

Occam's Razor says it's fake, if anything.

What's more likely?

A - Four screenshots that seem to feature re-used, low-quality, and modified fan art based on old in-game assets, put together incohesively and without much to distinguish them from what we already have in the Dragon Isles, end up being real and leaking the 10th expansion coming out on WoW's 20th anniversary, co-written by Chris Metzen.

B - It's fake and somebody who reads the speculation on this forum, and is good at these things, did it to have a bit of fun.

Still on the "It's Fake, Jim" team. Anyway I must be honest, if it's fake it's not something you do in a couple minutes to jest.

[PotHockets]

I think that is a definite (but very low) possibility. But probably not as a “made it just to leak” kinda thing.

Probably something for RP or someone’s personal fun project IF it is fake.
Kind of like the revamped Dalaran picture or something like this I found on Twitter:

That's clearly Cantha idk what else it could be lmao

[Nize]

Different top, but apart from that it is the same one

Not really. I mean, most columns going up look the same. It's literally a cylinder. The one you posted also has mesh in the middle, of which the one in the "leak" only has texturing in the middle.

[Picle]

The misalignment argument always was weird to me. Who photoshops this on an image of an angled laptop? Surely they would create the website/image and than take a picture of the laptop.

mhm! ^_^

With the same token, why would you assume it's fake?

i'm more concerned with the lack of consistent margins and the text under "AGG'ORAND" violating many accessibility standards. those are both considerations made well before a website developer would celebrate being "Mobile ready". but stranger things have happened

[Azalar]

It amazes me how we've gone from being completely leak-dry to having the leakest leaky leak of all leaks. It's sus.

[Pinksocking]

give me that new dalaran thoooooooooo

[Fahrad Wagner]

It amazes me how we've gone from being completely leak-dry to having the leakest leaky leak of all leaks. It's sus.

welcome to leak season my child

[D4NNYB0Y]

Occam's Razor says it's fake, if anything.

What's more likely?

A - Four screenshots that seem to feature re-used, low-quality, and modified fan art based on old in-game assets, put together incohesively and without much to distinguish them from what we already have in the Dragon Isles, end up being real and leaking the 10th expansion coming out on WoW's 20th anniversary, co-written by Chris Metzen.

B - It's fake and somebody who reads the speculation on this forum, and is good at these things, did it to have a bit of fun.

There does not seem to be any consensus here that this is low-quality or fan art. I heard these exact same arguments about the Dracthyr last cycle. You are also assuming Chris Metzen was heavily involved with this expansion. Chris is just one person, and he just officially came back. They have been working on this expansion for years. Where did Blizzard say Chris Metzen co-wrote this expansion?

[micwini]

The cup is lacking the specific gold embelishment, the Orb is floating above the 'cup' section, rather than actually set into it, screen perspective says this one is also wider and taller (generally just bigger) than the other one. Ring floating around the top of the cup, in unison with the Orb. How are these the SAME? This is exactly what I said. People take one look "Looks samey, so .. same", when the entire make-up of the model, besides a few similarities is DISTINCTLY different.

Like I said, different top. It is also not too far fetched to think they cut half of it off (cuz its so long and put some vines on it. Everything matches apart from the orb and the ring above it.

Again I think the chance is higher that it is real, but I like to view it from both perspectives.

Speculation is a game to play, not a war to wage.

[Worldshaper]

Something we don't yet know about? I mean from the Webpage, the entire Zone's focus is literally the Dwarf-Ogre dudes and their warring factions. And they do seem like another offshoot of Earthen. So.. why not?

The creator of the website leak admitted is was fake.

[Teriz]

So either this fake leaker went through hours and hours of creating assets for the leak which is insane BUT possible or this leak is actually real.

You mean like the leaker who created the image of Stormwind harbor filled with ghosts and ghost ships? I’m sure that took quite a lot of time as well.

[Nightshade711]

More like saying that Rustbolt and Mechagon City are different places. Which they are. Just like Kezan and Undermine.

What’s different about Undermine that separates it from Kezan?

At least with Rustbolt you’ve got the excuse that it’s the base of operations for the resistance that’s relying on scrap. (Even though it still shares a lot of assets w/ Mechagon City… which Undermine would do the same with Kezan)

And yet we have several posters here giving detailed explanations about how these shots are using a high-level of reused assets.

And yet we’ve also had several posters use plenty of examples from previous (and even the current xpac) on how early leaks / promotional material always has something that’s unfinished. (Reused temporary assets, no textures, etc etc)

[Marlamin]

The cup is lacking the specific gold embelishment, the Orb is floating above the 'cup' section, rather than actually set into it, screen perspective says this one is also wider and taller (generally just bigger) than the other one. Ring floating around the top of the cup, in unison with the Orb. How are these the SAME? This is exactly what I said. People take one look "Looks samey, so .. same", when the entire make-up of the model, besides a few similarities is DISTINCTLY different.

I mean, there is not a "same" asset of it, but it's definitely the same base model with a different top as the quote said. Blizz can scale their models so scale isn't really an issue at all.

[micwini]

The creator of the website leak admitted is was fake.

Link for that por favor.

[PotHockets]

The creator of the website leak admitted is was fake.

No they didn't, the website leak was a single poster that hasn't been banned and hasn't made any other statements. Someone did admit that they made up Stormbreaker but the website leak is still fully in play.

[J Street]

Assuming real, I've seen a lot of talk about odyn, has anyone
brought up the potential correlation with the name specifically?

aVALORen = VALARjar = storm drakes, storms. = odyn = halls of VALOR,trial of VALOR

The order of that list doesn't matter whatsoever but I thought it all clicked together in some semblance at least. Maybe I'm grasping at straws or maybe it's already been talked about, but there's too many pages to read through lol

[Azalar]

The creator of the website leak admitted is was fake.

By pure logic this would mean this newest one should also be because the Agg'orand guy is in the pic? Unless?

Anyway, what's the source of either leak?

[GhostPanini]

welcome to leak season my child

1 - 2 weeks before Blizzcon is always the best for these threads.