The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Azalar]

Yeah idk about that. I think there is a decently sizeable portion of the playerbase itching to kill Odyn.

If going against the Titans involves killing Odyn, then hell yeah, Iridikron has no enough space in the cosmos to hide from me pretending to join him.

[Izalla]

Also for anyone who isn't familiar with Tomkek and wants to see the making of a fan project that perfectly matches the game, check this out:



He remakes lots of mounts, weapons, and even armour sets.

[Polybius]

Based on the leak, it's not immediately attention grabbing. I'd really need to know what features would be added to change my mind on it being a skip for me.

And now we wait...

8 Days

[Fahrad Wagner]

It's less strong when you realize that the other half of his argument is turning around and pretending the playerbase would be ecstatic about a goblin continent.

I honestly wouldn't mind that

[Chickat]

Zaralek caverns has been universally panned by the playerbase in DF, Blizz wouldnt be smart making the mistake of saying "oh hay remember Zaralek, Here's more of that shit".

Zaralek was panned for gameplay reasons. It had nothing to do with the xone being underground.

[Dismayxz]

Teriz has a strong point.

Deliberately playing ignorant here, but does he? He was citing Thrall on the Banner as a major pointer towards his involvement in some form, so long as it fit the Undermine narrative or whatever the fuck he's been on about between the different stages of this post since then. No major character?

Here's the thing. If it's not an old "major character", people are going to be sighing, like as if new characters can't be major players. What if the main bad, presumably given current circumstances would be Iridikron. He'd be a major player all things considered, but the counterpoints IMMEDIATELY would be something along the lines of "blah blah writing", "blah blah not very established, so not major".

Yet he literally is. What if it IS Thrall. What if it's Magni, or Brann or any of the brothers. There's so little to go on. It's insane how much copium people huff to warrant shitting on the presumably new thing because they still haven't gotten Barrens 3.0 so they can then go on and complain ad homimen about how Barrens 3.0 looks exactly like what they said they wanted it to be. An update of the Barrens. It'd be "Oh no, Botani in the Barrens, literally just copying Gorgrond now for the revamp KEKW".

[NikolaiShade]

On a totally unrelated note one thing I would LOOOOOOVE to see for the anniversary is an updated version of that cinematic. That would be pretty awesome.

IF the leak is true, i could picture the same shot with an algarian earthen in place of the dwarf and one of those new fancy leopards in place of the bear

[Worldshaper]

Teriz has a strong point.

I agree as well. I mean if you look at this alleged leak, what does it entail?

Primordial continent with Titan influence, and four zones which vaguely represent each of the elements. I can not believe Blizzard would do essentially the same theme twice in a row.

The images basically leave out all the good bits about Avaloren: a completely new kind of dwarf (not just "hi, I'm grey now") wielding storm hammers atop his gryphon, a massive and raging storm covering the continent, and an underground cavern where Elun'Ahir's roots delve deep, or Xal'atath and the Void.

Why is the dwarf snow themed? I don't see how that clicks with the fissure of Sector AR-938 at all. If anything, it would be Life themed, or Storm themed.

Why is there a desert? Do the Titans require deserts in their world-shaping? Do world trees create deserts nearby?

Why are there stone dinosaurs? Surely, the battle pet version of the triceratops was bought from the "Titan Utopia" faction, Ulderoth and all that. Why would Avaloren be a Titan Utopia, if Odyn thinks it's full of heretics, and its earthen got transformed into something other than titan-forged? If anything, it sounds like Titan Hell. No order, no control.

[Kelthos]

I think the images *might* be real, but I don't think the Storms of Avaloren text is. Keep in mind with Dragonflight that a lot of people were posting an expansion breakdown text that ended up being completely wrong around the time the legit artwork of Alexstrasza leaked. One can be true, but not the other. I am excited we finally have something juicy to speculate on though, regardless!

[ercarp]

Also for anyone who isn't familiar with Tomkek and wants to see the making of a fan project that perfectly matches the game, check this out:

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He remakes lots of mounts, weapons, and even armour sets.

Love Tomkek's work. I don't know of anyone else that's able to match Warcraft's aesthetic as well as he does.

If he wanted to, this is definitely something he could pull off for the laughs.

[Teriz]

It's less strong when you realize that the other half of his argument is turning around and pretending the playerbase would be ecstatic about a goblin continent.

Stop hating. People love Gazlowe and Gallywix. Also there’s more Goblin players than Dwarf players.

[Chickat]

People are disappointed because it looks like everything we got in the last decade. Even if these are just stills from the video preview, there’s not an inch of freshness or novelty to it.

Solely being excited for new stuff is setting the bar for everything in the future very low when it’s so formulaic and redundant.

By the way, why are people time and time again clinging to the world revamp stuff? Now it’s just a partial revamp? When will you guys finally stop, it’s not happening. Every two years the same revamp shenanigans and people never learn.

Its definitely happening at some point per Ion.

[Azalar]

I agree as well. I mean if you look at this alleged leak, what does it entail?

Primordial continent with Titan influence, and four zones which vaguely represent each of the elements. I can not believe Blizzard would do essentially the same theme twice in a row.

The images basically leave out all the good bits about Avaloren: a completely new kind of dwarf (not just "hi, I'm grey now") wielding storm hammers atop his gryphon, a massive and raging storm covering the continent, and an underground cavern where Elun'Ahir's roots delve deep, or Xal'atath and the Void.

I would be disappointed if Elun'ahir isn't underground Un'goro

[Xilurm]

The background in the picture with the harpy looks painted af. How can people not realize this is made with AI?

[Raetary]

The background in the picture with the harpy looks painted af. How can people not realize this is made with AI?

Because its very clearly not AI and definitely not painted.

Have you seen AI images recently?
it does not look like even remotely like that.

[Cheezits]

I would be disappointed if Elun'ahir isn't underground Un'goro

If this is real then I assume the Everward/Jungle Zone is actually underground, it fits way too much what Elun'ahir was described to be (upside down world tree)

[ercarp]

The background in the picture with the harpy looks painted af. How can people not realize this is made with AI?

It's definitely not painted...

I mean, technically everything in WoW is painted. But I don't think that's what you meant.

[Ebonn]

Teriz has a strong point.

That is an incredibly weak point… someone assuming he knows what the majority of players want? Lol

[Selorian]

Deliberately playing ignorant here, but does he? He was citing Thrall on the Banner as a major pointer towards his involvement in some form, so long as it fit the Undermine narrative or whatever the fuck he's been on about between the different stages of this post since then. No major character?

Here's the thing. If it's not an old "major character", people are going to be sighing, like as if new characters can't be major players. What if the main bad, presumably given current circumstances would be Iridikron. He'd be a major player all things considered, but the counterpoints IMMEDIATELY would be something along the lines of "blah blah writing", "blah blah not very established, so not major".

Yet he literally is. What if it IS Thrall. What if it's Magni, or Brann or any of the brothers. There's so little to go on. It's insane how much copium people huff to warrant shitting on the presumably new thing because they still haven't gotten Barrens 3.0 so they can then go on and complain ad homimen about how Barrens 3.0 looks exactly like what they said they wanted it to be. An update of the Barrens. It'd be "Oh no, Botani in the Barrens, literally just copying Gorgrond now for the revamp KEKW".

Location vs. Location, Kalimdor

[Worldshaper]

I would be disappointed if Elun'ahir isn't underground Un'goro

It could be, but I'm not sure why Blizzard would tease a world tree there of all places. Keep in mind Freya planted multiple world trees within the dream. It's not impossible for one of them to have been in the Dream-version of Un'goro, sort of seeping its life-giving energies out into the physical realm. Another might have been in Scholazar, doing the same.