The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

Yeah, surely nobody would leak a snapchat.

Maybe I am just out of touch with work culture. But the "webpage is working" just seemed like a contrived scenario.
Maybe it's something that happens though, and people just enjoy setting up these weirdly specific images, rather than say, the version of the webpage you see when you hit refresh and you have the big logo on top.

[keelr]

10.3. Not 10.2

I was saying that:
- why would it be 10.3 when not even 10.2 is out, you cant really make a demo from a patch like that
- wh would it be 10.2 when we already have ptr for weeks

[Harbour]

The "hopium" for 10.3 Is the tweets by the man himself.

"The most news this year"

Then streamers/youtubers constantly talking about how WoW will have more stuff than normal shown at blizzcon this year.

All i see is that Khadgar/Kalecgos are glowing with PURPLEish (i know its Arcane) vs Iridikron glowing with LIGHT'ish (i know its Earth).
Light vs Void announcement at Blizzcon CONFIRMED.

[Nightshade711]

Not really. Even if they did, it still isn't enough to convince otherwise (and in my case, their evidence is only affirming my suspicions that it is legit).

New headcanon that the people trying so hard to debunk it are blizzard employees to throw us off.
(The people with the original ideas not the people parroting)

[Izalla]

I am convinced that a nonzero amount of people in this thread will not even believe the expansion as it's streaming live from blizzcon, because it goes against their made up proof that they have doubled down on.

Expect 11.1 Undermine or partial work revamp to be trending

It's a kick to the ego if they've been insulting anyone who wasn't sure or full on believed it.

[Worldshaper]

Lol @ all the people going, "THERE'S RE-USED ASSETS IN THIS, FAKE CONFIRMED!!!!11one" as if Blizzard have never re-used assets before in a new game...

I'm not saying it's real or fake, just that using "re-used assets" as a reason why it's fake is silly.

This argument is still just as poor as it was on the last page, and the page before it, and the...

No one is saying asset re-use is unheard of, or necessarily bad in every scenario.

The thing with this situation though, is that every asset is reused or slightly altered. There's nothing truly original in any of these screenshots, from what we can tell.

That is unheard of.

[Demonly]

Lol @ all the people going, "THERE'S RE-USED ASSETS IN THIS, FAKE CONFIRMED!!!!11one" as if Blizzard have never re-used assets before in a new game...

I'm not saying it's real or fake, just that using "re-used assets" as a reason why it's fake is silly.

I am one of those continuing to bring up the notion of reused assets.

No where did I say this was fake. I just don't think it's patch 11.0 "Reused Assets" I think it's Patch 10.3, and we'll be pleasantly surprised by it as a way to end Dragonflight with a bigger than normal "Timeless isles" patch about Uldaz.

[ercarp]

I still think the fact that nothing in the Avaloren leak is weird at all or strange at all is the biggest hint towards it being fake.

It's a new zone that has been completely devoid of Titan influence and "Kalimdor" influence for what could be hundreds of thousands of years, depending on when it was sealed off.

That's a good point.

When screenshots of the Dracthyr Evoker in action were leaked, the background looked completely different to anything we had ever seen before (because it was the Forbidden Reach) and that kind of threw people for a loop.

What's sorely lacking in these leaks is the presence of any kind of unique architecture. Every single expansion announcement trailer has shown off some cool new buildings or structures, but you don't get anything like that here. Makes the whole expansion seem extremely small in scope.

[Nightshade711]

All i see is that Khadgar/Kalecgos are glowing with PURPLEish (i know its Arcane) vs Iridikron glowing with LIGHT'ish (i know its Earth).
Light vs Void announcement at Blizzcon CONFIRMED.

That reminds me of when everyone was trying to theorize that Iridikron made a bargain with the light

[Dismayxz]

I still think the fact that nothing in the Avaloren leak is weird at all or strange at all is the biggest hint towards it being fake.

It's a new zone that has been completely devoid of Titan influence and "Kalimdor" influence for what could be hundreds of thousands of years, depending on when it was sealed off.

Like, if Blizzard were just going to do a standard Titan race expansion thing, I don't see the point of making it Avaloren. Like, calling it Khaz Algor, and leaving Avaloren out completely would have been the smarter leak direction.

And I say this as someone who wouldn't mind a Titan race themed thing.

I mean, again. There'd probably be architecture of them. It's their 'creations' that went rogue/are the heretics here, the things that would usually build said architecture if I'm not mistaken. In the screenshots it doesn't look well kept or totally run down, but that just.. makes sense, just because you'd disagree with the way your Boss did things, doesn't mean you wouldn't take some care of what you DO have, even if it still kind of relates to the 'old ways' in this scenario. In fact, the only times it shows titan architecture at all, there's also Titan Golems around and it's a literal jungle, I don't think Golems have the capability to rebel, necessarily? Perhaps that Zone hasn't been touched much by the heretics at all since their cut ties and it's just the remnant Golems taking care of it/keeping the lights on.

[Catastrophy349]

The amount of crazy here will surely get us to 2000 before the night is over.

[Marlamin]

Maybe I am just out of touch with work culture. But the "webpage is working" just seemed like a contrived scenario.
Maybe it's something that happens though, and people just enjoy setting up these weirdly specific images, rather than say, the version of the webpage you see when you hit refresh and you have the big logo on top.

Just poking fun at the "surely they wouldn't post a snapchat" argument, I don't actually know anything about modern social media and whether or not this would be a realistic scenario.

[Sondrelk]

https://x.com/MrGMYT/status/1717573493439553974?s=20


assuming he knows what he's talking about, would that be DF's that was a snapchat leak?

Maybe I am just not well enough versed in stuff like this, but it just seemed like a contrivance to me.
Even ignoring the UI stuff that people got into, I just think it's very convenient that the webpage was focused on these two specific things, rather than the top of the page shown when you hit refresh.

Also, while the first picture of the weird tall dwarf is weird, I think it's more pertinent to mention how the second picture on the phone looks terrible.

[Chickat]

Every K'aresh denial is a dagger pressed against my cosmic heart

Im with you. Ive long dreamed of K'aresh. Its my number 2 expansion theme behind World Revamp.

[Sondrelk]

I don’t think AI has been able to reliably make convincing WoW models yet. Even some of the newer and better AIs that’ve recently come out.

I think a lot of the weirdness could be due to poor image quality (cell phone) and the fact that they’re taken from likely a video where the models/objects aren’t supposed to be “still”

The AI weirdness with the dwarf is specifically things AI struggles with. Hands, and proportions on angled characters.

Could of course just be the low quality and his pose, but still. Worth pointing out.

[milkmustache]

Maybe I am just not well enough versed in stuff like this, but it just seemed like a contrivance to me.
Even ignoring the UI stuff that people got into, I just think it's very convenient that the webpage was focused on these two specific things, rather than the top of the page shown when you hit refresh.

Also, while the first picture of the weird tall dwarf is weird, I think it's more pertinent to mention how the second picture on the phone looks terrible.

The second picture looks like scrapped Cataclysm concept art for a new dwarven race. It's so strange.

[Sondrelk]

Lol @ all the people going, "THERE'S RE-USED ASSETS IN THIS, FAKE CONFIRMED!!!!11one" as if Blizzard have never re-used assets before in a new game...

I'm not saying it's real or fake, just that using "re-used assets" as a reason why it's fake is silly.

Re-used assets is one thing. It's that the zones both look like older zones, and don't show off anything exciting like what you would expect from press kits or trailers.

[Rathwell]

Can someone else leak something credible, please? I really want something else to argue about. Maybe we can even pit the leaks against each other or something. We seem quite stuck on the four screenshots and the assets they use.

[Catastrophy349]

Back to reality! We have 10.2 Campaign Quests information.

- - - Updated - - -

NEW CAMPAIGN CHAPTERS
Enter the Dream
Fyrakk has invaded the Emerald Dream. Meet Merithra and allies within the Dream, and find that Fyrakk has brought reinforcements of his own.
Druids of the Flame
Tyrande Whisperwind hunts the leader of the Druids of the Flame in order to discover why they have allied themselves with Fyrakk.
The Claws of Vyranoth
Join Vyranoth as she seeks to find why Fyrakk wants control of Amirdrassil, and uncovers what became of the Primalists she was once close to.
REFORGING TYR PART 4
Beginning the week of November 21, journey to the Nighthold with the Tyr's Guard in hope of retrieving Tyr's disc and restoring him. Rewards Dragon Isles Drakes: White Scales.
MISFIT DRAGONS
Join Wrathion and Vyranoth as they conduct some draconic diplomacy and try to obtain the help of the Netherwing and the Thorignir dragons. The misfit dragons questline begins the week of November 14.

[Chickat]

Teriz has a strong point.

While I think Avaloren is likely next expansion, i do yhink it would be better saved for later and have a few more expansions of build up.

Personally i would want it to be like this.

11.0 world revamp
12.0 K'aresh
13.0 Back to Azeroth/ Avaloren.