The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

If we got class skins you could do void knights. But I doubt they would ever do class skins.

[TidesOfBlood]

I'd really not want the Maruuk centaur of all races to be the next AR.

I like this idea very much. The centaur storyline was the most intriguiging out of all the campaigns.

[Skytotem]

I'd really not want the Maruuk centaur of all races to be the next AR.

Eh, can always RP as a Kalimdor Centaur.

[Skildar]

I didn't enjoy the centaur storyline. It felt like a bad version of an orc tale
The tuskarr felt more interesting as they have more character but it wasn't great either

[Makabreska]

Maruuk was yet another story of "faction consists a few sub-factions, but one of them betrays and aligns with the enemy". Just like with Feltotem, Skovold, Forsworn, House of Rituals, Ashvane, and many, many more.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

The Centuar storyline was ok. I preffered the more dragon centric stuff. Tuskar.....I'm sorry I just don't care about them. I did like the Baine Centuar Questline though.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

We already did mongols with the Yaungol so the Maruuk felt redundant.

[Sondrelk]

Ohn'ahran plains never really grabbed me honestly. It was cool and all, but there didnt feel like there was a suitable finale like there was for Azure Span and Thaldrazsus.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I went to Blizzcon until the coof happened. Then Blizzard got castrated. Hard to feel excited about another one. Doubt they will put on a metal concert again. I don't know anyone who attends so it'd just be so it's just going to be a boring marketing show for investors with 15 minute demos you can play. The panels for the last two years weren't very informative (the design panel for a water boss for BFA, and the zone design one for Maldraxxus). Some were really bad (the Overwatch voice acting panel and the one about writing Warcraft traveller).

[Worldshaper]

I think it's fine if they add all classes to all races.

Some, like Demon Hunters, would need a couple of quests for it to make sense logically, or a Bolvar DK starting scenario type of deal.

But we gotta remember that the players are just a handful of people in the lore. Just because xXbovineFire55 is a Tauren Warlock, that doesn't mean Tauren society embraces fel magic.

They don't need to place a bunch of Warlock Tauren in Thunder Bluff. However there could be a hidden little sanctum somewhere underneath the city, suggesting it's forbidden and shunned.

If they want to take it a step further, NPCs could sometimes reference the fact.

<Baine looks at you with a concerned frown>

"Greetings, Warlock. Thank you for saving the well, and protecting our water..."

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I wonder what theme will the 10.1.5 megadungeon go for or what it will be about.

Personally i hope for "going through timelines" kinda fights and not another very dragon related theme in the sense of cosmetics, fights etc.

[Nymrohd]

I wonder what theme will the 10.1.5 megadungeon go for or what it will be about.

Personally i hope for "going through timelines" kinda fights and not another very dragon related theme in the sense of cosmetics, fights etc.

Most people are expecting Vakthos (sp?) that Blue tower in Azure Span.

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Ohn'ahran plains never really grabbed me honestly. It was cool and all, but there didnt feel like there was a suitable finale like there was for Azure Span and Thaldrazsus.

I felt it lacked a certain something. The Maruuk are formulaic but you cannot deny there was work put there; each tribe is unique with its own base, traditions, colors, banners etc plus a few NPCs specific to them. Yet I cannot get myself to care for them anywhere near as much as about the Tuskar who got far less detail. Maybe they just lacked decent NPCs or good voice acting and thus failed to get me invested? Meanwhile the green dragons show too late and I felt we rushed through their area of the zoned; probably it is because their storyline continued with Renown.
It also bothered me later with the world quests that almost all of them are about the Maruuk or the generic ones (race, photo, climb); there was one in the final area of the zone where all the Primalists are but I didn't see any in the gardens or the island where the gate is. The reason to me is simple; they designed the Renown system around specific factions and that zone was meant for Maruuk rep, not Valdrakken rep. In general once you reach end level you don't really deal with dragon issues in the overworld because Valdrakken rep is very limited to specific areas of the map even if there are dragon interests everywhere.

[Nathanyel]

We don't have a lot of information regarding her reign, only that it was prosperous and she became the Kaldorei Empire's most beloved monarch.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Azshara is an avatar of Azeroth, a splinter of her essence born into a mortal* shell. Maybe an attempt to to learn more about the mortal races, maybe a kind of backup made as the world soul sensed the coming invasion of the Legion - which then ironically happened mostly because of Azshara.
Being born with an innate ability to wield magic without issue, literally a messianic offspring of this world's equivalent of 'God', but anaware of it - that certainly could lead to having... a high opinion of yourself, to put it mildly. Azshara considered only Sargeras to be worthy to become her mate, and she might not have been that wrong...

* We can only assume that without the events of the War of the Ancients, even Azshara would have eventually succumbed to age. Either the transformation into a Naga made her immortal (most likely) or the blessing of Nordrassil extended immortality to the Naga as well - there's an unsourced sentence on Nordrassil's Wowpedia entry saying "But the most important blessing came from Nozdormu, which ensured that so long as the tree existed the night elves would remain immortal. This would ensure that even the most corrupt of night elves would be drawn to protect the tree."
If that's the case, the Naga, including Azshara, are now mortal again - although that would still mean a life span of up to several thousand years - obviously someone as powerful and vain as Azshara would attempt to find a way to prevent that.

[Pheraz]

Most people are expecting Vakthos (sp?) that Blue tower in Azure Span.

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I felt it lacked a certain something. The Maruuk are formulaic but you cannot deny there was work put there; each tribe is unique with its own base, traditions, colors, banners etc plus a few NPCs specific to them. Yet I cannot get myself to care for them anywhere near as much as about the Tuskar who got far less detail. Maybe they just lacked decent NPCs or good voice acting and thus failed to get me invested? Meanwhile the green dragons show too late and I felt we rushed through their area of the zoned; probably it is because their storyline continued with Renown.
It also bothered me later with the world quests that almost all of them are about the Maruuk or the generic ones (race, photo, climb); there was one in the final area of the zone where all the Primalists are but I didn't see any in the gardens or the island where the gate is. The reason to me is simple; they designed the Renown system around specific factions and that zone was meant for Maruuk rep, not Valdrakken rep. In general once you reach end level you don't really deal with dragon issues in the overworld because Valdrakken rep is very limited to specific areas of the map even if there are dragon interests everywhere.

I think their faces look too much like surgery/robotic (for me)
Also besides the green dragons in a little corner it's pretty much only maruuk on the whole area
Wheras the blue zone looks much more diverse, chaotic and "living" (IMO)

[Skildar]

I think their faces look too much like surgery/robotic (for me)
Also besides the green dragons in a little corner it's pretty much only maruuk on the whole area
Wheras the blue zone looks much more diverse, chaotic and "living" (IMO)

This is very true concerning their physical appearance. If you were to ask Samwise Didier to draw centaurs you would never end up with this generic and flavourless creature. His cartoon style shouldn't be the default but there is character in his work that is definitely lacking in a lot of art for this expansion.

[Nymrohd]

I think their faces look too much like surgery/robotic (for me)

It could be that. They are too clean maybe?

[ImTheMizAwesome]

These centaur models have the same problem as the big drakonid npcs or dracthyr, new furbolgs, they look like "im soo happy to be here, im so nice!".

It's like they're designing some of this new stuff to be pretty/clean but also more generic, i guess that's partially the fault of probably new faces in the art designing team.

[Teriz]

So how long do people reckon we will have to wait before we get more class options for Dracthyr?

You're going to get your Evoker support-based 3rd spec long before that happens.



Yeah, I really don't want to see Dracthyr getting other classes. Evoker lore kind of stomps that notion into the ground.

[Lady Atia]

These centaur models have the same problem as the big drakonid npcs or dracthyr, new furbolgs, they look like "im soo happy to be here, im so nice!".

It's like they're designing some of this new stuff to be pretty/clean but also more generic, i guess that's partially the fault of probably new faces in the art designing team.

Yeah, also some of the newer mounts (current season's pvp cat, the upcoming trading post turtle) look more like they come from warcraft 3 reforged than WoW - the same goes for the centaurs imo. Really not a fan of a few "hyper realistic" models that clash with the more cartoony ones we usually have.

[Black Rider]

Does he know something special?
https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1644484158574542849