The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[SoA]

No specs versus New spec at launch and more planned. Those are objectively, notably dissimilar.

Can you link me to the specific link saying no new specs? I'll debunk if it looks wrong.

[bruxx]

Uhh...



I swear I'm not Chris Metzen, that's for sure.

Metzen is the guy that fucks with the excel shit colleague, because he goes with the mood of the moment and fuck the statistics!

[Wangming]

Has there ever been a leak that got future patch content/plans for future content correct?

Don't think so. This one is very detailed with zone names and patch stuff. But oddly enough doesn't really include any BIG feauture besides the race that nobody asked for.

[SoA]

Has there ever been a leak that got future patch content/plans for future content correct?

Yes many times

Edit: In fact basically every expansion is leaked days before it is announced.

[SoA]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...8#post54259998

Think OP is confusing turning specs into support specs with giving existing classes support specs? Also, I didn't see anything about player-piloted boats.

[Moth Preacher]

Oh, thanks. So nothing noteworthy in last 10 or so hours.

where leaks

[ercarp]

Well have anyone seen you and Chris Metzen in the same room at the same time?

My lawyer has advised me to not comment on this.

Jokes aside though, I have no idea what they meant and I'm very confused.

I think they're trying to make it seem like I'm a Blizzard employee that came up with the idea of collecting every leak in a spreadsheet and giving each leak a credibility score so I could hide the real leak by assigning it a score of 0 so no one looks at it...

As if anyone could even think of something so absurd!

[Rathwell]

Metzen is the guy that fucks with the excel shit colleague, because he goes with the mood of the moment and fuck the statistics!

I sort of imagine Metzen laying on a couch tossing and catching a baseball over and over while an intern sits next to him typing away at a computer

He has them '2cool4skool" vibes

[Leowyld]

Think OP is confusing turning specs into support specs with giving existing classes support specs? Also, I didn't see anything about player-piloted boats.

So, which thing is happening according to you? New specs, no specs at all, or existing specs being changed into support?

[Kiria]

My lawyer has advised me to not comment on this.

Jokes aside though, I have no idea what they meant and I'm very confused.

I think they're trying to make it seem like I'm a Blizzard employee that came up with the idea of collecting every leak in a spreadsheet and giving each leak a credibility score so I could hide the real leak by assigning it a score of 0 so no one looks at it...

As if anyone could even think of something so absurd!

That is actually quite smart... now I wonder?

[lostsoup]

People on this forum care way more about this game's lore than the average WoW player, so one of the things fake leaks here mess up is that they focus way too much on the story of the expansion and put near zero effort on the actual gameplay features, usually just adding one or two regurgitated community talking points.

How many leaks have we had here that go "new support specs for Shaman and maybe DH or Rogue idk" followed by 8+ bullet points on the expansion's plot points, setting, antagonists, history of the new races, etc?

[Grimbold21]

So for me my mindset is that the game should always be developed for the people actively playing the game. Listening to feedback or ideas from people that haven't played in years is not how you keep players happy. It was a problem that Blizzard had for a long, long time. They kept trying to chase that sub high that can not be replicated anymore and the game suffered for it.

I definitely don't think that people that dislike how the game is now don't legitimately love some form of it but for those people classic exists and they're having a blast with it. Or they just leave it in the memory bin and bust it out every now and again for a nostalgia fix. The people that haven't played it in years and still stay just as engaged with the news and info and shit on any possible shred of info with no context and no way of how X thing will actually feel to play are the people I'm talking about not mattering.

It's one thing to look at something like DF or BFA or SL or Legion or whatever and say "I didn't enjoy my time with it" or "It's not for me anymore" and move on and another thing entirely to try and claim that no one could possibly like it for what it is or to devalue the people that do enjoy it by making up whatever strawman argument someone needs to help with their inability to accept that times change. Or something like that I'm not actually sure I'm explaining it that well.

Fair enough.

I would, however, add that creating and maintaining a game to a more or less consistent playerbase increases the risk of developer complacency and stagnation. After all, if the current playerbase accepts what the devs have to give, then there wouldn't be much of a reason to dramatically innovate, especially if the higher ups acknowledge that the game is making good money without the increased cost from more development.

[Rathwell]

My lawyer has advised me to not comment on this.

Jokes aside though, I have no idea what they meant and I'm very confused.

I think they're trying to make it seem like I'm a Blizzard employee that came up with the idea of collecting every leak in a spreadsheet and giving each leak a credibility score so I could hide the real leak by assigning it a score of 0 so no one looks at it...

As if anyone could even think of something so absurd!

I'm going to need you to provide all spreadsheets for previous expansion speculations - unedited - so that we can verify the validity of your scores. And no funny business. We've a sniper in position and we'll know if you try to make break for it.

[ZyntosAran]

My lawyer has advised me to not comment on this.

Jokes aside though, I have no idea what they meant and I'm very confused.

I think they're trying to make it seem like I'm a Blizzard employee that came up with the idea of collecting every leak in a spreadsheet and giving each leak a credibility score so I could hide the real leak by assigning it a score of 0 so no one looks at it...

As if anyone could even think of something so absurd!

So, which one is it though. World of Warcraft 2, The Dark Continent? Or maybe New World.

[SoA]

So, which thing is happening according to you? New specs, no specs at all, or existing specs being changed into support?

New specs.

[Wangming]

Think OP is confusing turning specs into support specs with giving existing classes support specs? Also, I didn't see anything about player-piloted boats.

Too bad. That part was at least interesting. So if i have to pick between these two, I pick that one.

[Leowyld]

New specs.

Well, now, that is curious. Because it not only contradicts the eerily similar leak I linked, it contradicts the only other leak that showed the Agg'ora exactly as you described, the infamous "website" leak, which said that existing specs were being changed to support.

[ZyntosAran]

Well, now, that is curious. Because it not only contradicts the eerily similar leak I linked, it contradicts the only other leak that showed the Agg'ora exactly as you described, the infamous "website" leak, which said that existing specs were being changed to support.

the facade is starting to break.

[matijwow]

I sort of imagine Metzen laying on a couch tossing and catching a baseball over and over while an intern sits next to him typing away at a computer

He has them '2cool4skool" vibes

I liked the story about when they were playtesting Gnomeregan on an early build and death was more permanent. Metzen died and just went to sit in the hallway for a while because it was so draining. I forget if Jon Staats or David Fried told that story.

[SoA]

Well, now, that is curious. Because it not only contradicts the eerily similar leak I linked, it contradicts the only other leak that showed the Agg'ora exactly as you described, the infamous "website" leak, which said that existing specs were being changed to support.

I mean, I could have misunderstood what I've been told. But also, I'd really fucking hope not. Combat was already renamed Outlaw, what are they going to do rename Outlaw to Bard?