The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Yunravel]

After the picture with the dwarf (a similar one is featured in the website leak too, anyway), the THIRD one, the one with the harpy, if you look closely on the right there is an harpy fighting an aggo'ran. The model is 1:1 the one from the website leak

Ok idk how I got fooled by this but thanks to the one posting the briarhorn pet in closer details. I can safely tell its fake, the adult briarhorn just have some very old and crusty textures (MOP) it would be unlikely to be their work especially when you see how smooth are the creature models nowadays

Compare new dragons models with olds one etc. Its way too much crusty to be wow current artstyle. Also I feel like that aerie peak statue might just be the mount the gryfon stone mount from the anniversary rigged that way and with the glow deleted through .blp on photoshop

[ercarp]

in not an expert in these kind of things, but how hard would it be for someone to make a fake like that?

If I had access to a sandbox version of Dragonflight and some kind of world edit software, given enough time (like a few days), I could probably replicate the environments shown in the images since they seem to be mostly showing reused assets. People do these kinds of things a lot on servers-which-shall-not-be-named.

Creating the dwarf and dino models is the actual hard part and not something I would be able to do since you need to actually know how to make custom models. At best I would be able to paint over basic dwarf and dino models in Photoshop to make them look like they're custom models, but people would probably be able to tell.

TLDR: Pretty damn hard, but not impossible for someone with the right tools and skillset.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Everyone can come to their own conclusion, but the hands on both frozen dwarf and the other ogre looking something dwarf theres something weird about the hands, one looks better than the other, that one thing is sus to me.

[Reive]

If I had access to a sandbox version of Dragonflight and some kind of world edit software, given enough time (like a few days), I could probably replicate the environments shown in the images since they seem to be mostly showing reused assets. People do these kinds of things a lot on servers-which-shall-not-be-named.

Creating the dwarf and dino models is the actual hard part and not something I would be able to do since you need to actually know how to make custom models. At best I would be able to paint over basic dwarf and dino models in Photoshop to make them look like they're custom models, but people would probably be able to tell.

TLDR: Pretty damn hard, but not impossible for someone with the right tools and skillset.

alright so the odds are in favor of avaloren being real

[Yunravel]

If I had access to a sandbox version of Dragonflight and some kind of world edit software, given enough time (like a few days), I could probably replicate the environments shown in the images since they seem to be mostly showing reused assets. People do these kinds of things a lot on servers-which-shall-not-be-named.

Creating the dwarf and dino models is the actual hard part and not something I would be able to do since you need to actually know how to make custom models. At best I would be able to paint over basic dwarf and dino models in Photoshop to make them look like they're custom models, but people would probably be able to tell.

TLDR: Pretty damn hard, but not impossible for someone with the right tools and skillset.

Its easy to do, if you could see what modders do with atchoum launcher (;^) )

[Joszef Kiprich]

Those titan pillars in the Dino pic look like they have been added later into the pic. Probably after someone posted that photo of the Blizzcon set pieces.

[Makorus]

Its easy to do, if you could see what modders do with atchoum launcher (;^) )

Show me any phase that has an edited world space. As in the, the actual topography and isn't just placed doodads.

[Yunravel]

Sure sending you stuff in dm. Or you could just type nogg-it on youtube and watch some creations

[Makorus]

Sure sending you stuff in dm. Or you could just type nogg-it on youtube and watch some creations

Huh, fair enough. I didn't know that was an actual tool (and its even worse because that came out 14 years ago LMAO)

[Colonel Sandor]

Everyone can come to their own conclusion, but the hands on both frozen dwarf and the other ogre looking something dwarf theres something weird about the hands, one looks better than the other, that one thing is sus to me.

It's sus, but so low detail that you can't fully analyze how the fingers and blades come together. Also it looks like he's wearing WOTLK boots.

[Raetary]

Compare new dragons models with olds one etc. Its way too much crusty to be wow current artstyle.

*ahem*

Spoiler: 

As smooth and deeply cartoony as a lot of models are this expansion, there is still quite a few that follow a more sharp and detailed art style.

[Yus atath]

Everyone can come to their own conclusion, but the hands on both frozen dwarf and the other ogre looking something dwarf theres something weird about the hands, one looks better than the other, that one thing is sus to me.

It’s WILD how there’s no talk about this. There’s something clearly off with the hand/weapon combination

[ercarp]

Everyone can come to their own conclusion, but the hands on both frozen dwarf and the other ogre looking something dwarf theres something weird about the hands, one looks better than the other, that one thing is sus to me.

It's also such a weird design choice. Like, who decided that they should have drills for index fingers? How can they do anything? There's no way these people can pull on the reins of a gryphon with those things constantly getting in the way.

[Joszef Kiprich]

It’s WILD how there’s no talk about this. There’s something clearly off with the hand/weapon combination

As someone said earlier, could be some kind of Wolverine/Baraka kind of weapon. Or some form of cryomancing. Or it could be fake ofcourse.

[Baraden]

in not an expert in these kind of things, but how hard would it be for someone to make a fake like that?

Not as much hard as it would be time consuming; so the obvious question who would put days of work into a fake leak

Of course, most people in this thread have spent that long just talking about leaks, so it's not that far-fetched to think someone would put real effort into a fake rather than just text dumps; this is the only leak that's been taken seriously for that reason

[ImTheMizAwesome]

It's sus, but so low detail that you can't fully analyze how the fingers and blades come together. Also it looks like he's wearing WOTLK boots.

Yeah, im not really very knowledgeable with all the graphic, ai and such but i know one thing that usually the biggest problem is with hands and of all the things both new race on the site and frozen dwarf here have something weird with their hands going on, could be perspective.

I still put 60/40 on it being real that's why my personal hype kinda evaporated and i hope they won't add some new type of ogres, but yeah this one thing looks sus.

[Floot]

It’s WILD how there’s no talk about this. There’s something clearly off with the hand/weapon combination

I don't know, that detail just makes it seem more plausible to me. They got some sort of runic weapon thing as direct part of their body / hands.
If fakes had to edit such a picture it would look a lot different, the textures just flow into each other too perfectly. Not only would they have had to make custom skins, but also a custom model and then rig it and make it work in the viewer.

I still lean 85% towards this leak being the real deal.

[micwini]

The bottom two already are showing more unique architecture and assets.

Remember also the top right: That new/updated harpy model was added in Legion.

[Harbour]

Something like this?

Looks nice tbh. Not Blizzard level but very nice.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Looks nice tbh. Not Blizzard level but very nice.

Weirdly enough, I typed "world of warcraft logo" in google and filtered to only one week and this came out as one of the graphics.

haven't seen it before, but it's probably something from previous blizzcon seasons.