The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Krakerz]

One thing I just noticed: The shadows in ALL FOUR of the images go in the same direction, towards the bottom left, like someone just copied the model layers in photoshop, made them black, lowered the opacity, and stretched them towards the bottom left.


Also the shadow of the dwarf is way more transparent than it actually is in wow, PLUS his shadow actually goes behind his right hand spike thing (our left side) which makes no sense.

[Sondrelk]

Everyone can come to their own conclusion, but the hands on both frozen dwarf and the other ogre looking something dwarf theres something weird about the hands, one looks better than the other, that one thing is sus to me.

That that both spikes seem to show the same "side" despite very clearly giving the impression of a flatter spike is what gets to me.
They look less like they are part of his hands, and more so that the spikes is some kind of overlay put on haphazardly, which very much is a common flaw of AI gen.

On his right arm the spike seems to be attached to the top of his hand, whereas on his left it seems more like it's attached to his index finger. Which seems less like s deliberate choice, and more like an AI has tried to attach the same effect on both hands at an angle.

[Makabreska]

What website?

This leak look real just because it says the new race have different hair colors, that is exactly the twitter/tumbler stuff the devs with side head shaved would add to the game like they did with dracthry

Forever salty, eh?

[Syegfryed]

Forever salty, eh?

until they make a decent, non-furry, draconic race, yep

[vintage79]

(Psych)
2. The rule of commitment and consistency: people strive to ensure that their actions are consistent with their values. The rule of commitment and consistency says that each of us has a deeply rooted need for consistency.

tl;dr: I play for a long time so i'm (high chances) gona play still (regardless of what's coming)

Assumptions:
**************************
you've been playing since classic
you've been playing for 10 years
you've been playing for 5-10 years
you've join last exp pack or so
**************************

Let's say:
We gona get another cool cinematic (falling stone boi/emotions, etc)
No new classess
No new races (maybe generic stone dwarfs) which have as much in common with dwarves as dracthyrs have in common with dragons.
New contient (mix of some cool themed zones: abit of northrend and abit of smth, etc)

So I have a question for u guys:
Will you continue playing? (and payin)

[ImTheMizAwesome]

That that both spikes seem to show the same "side" despite very clearly giving the impression of a flatter spike is what gets to me.
They look less like they are part of his hands, and more so that the spikes is some kind of overlay put on haphazardly, which very much is a common flaw of AI gen.

On his right arm the spike seems to be attached to the top of his hand, whereas on his left it seems more like it's attached to his index finger. Which seems less like s deliberate choice, and more like an AI has tried to attach the same effect on both hands at an angle.

yeah it's like in this picture i posted before, one hand/arms looks much different from the other in a weird way at least from that perspective.
One is so weirdly thin and not muscular at all, even the shoulder is positioned differently than the other.

Of course can't count out the possibility that new race might have two asymmetrical looking hands, but still looks weirld.

[Makorus]

(Psych)
2. The rule of commitment and consistency: people strive to ensure that their actions are consistent with their values. The rule of commitment and consistency says that each of us has a deeply rooted need for consistency.

tl;dr: i play for a long time so i'm (high chances) gona play still (regardless of what's coming)

Assumptions:
**************************
you've been playing since classic
you've been playing for 10 years
you've been playing for 5-10 years
you've join last exp pack or so
**************************


Let's say:
We gona get another cool cinematic (falling stone boi/emotions, etc)
No new classess
No new races (maybe generic stone dwarfs) which have as much in common with dwarves as dracthyrs have in common with dragons.
New contient (mix of some cool themed zones: abit of northrend and abit of smth, etc)

So I have a question for u guys:
Will you continue playing? (and payin)

Yeah because I play to raid/M+ and that has consistently been good.

There being 2/3/4/5 raid tiers doesn't really matter too much in the long run because at the end of the day, I'll get the same amount of raids, I just have to pay a box price every year rather than every 1.5 years.

[Holdodlig]

I've never heard of that.

Looking at the few Kyrian NPCs, barely any of them use any spells with a musical reference, and most of the Covenant abilities are hardly musical.

Divine Toll, maybe.

Most of the spell wasn't the best way to say that, but some of their NPC signature spells are.

Diminuendo, Crescendo, anything with echo or resonance. Even a lot of their weapons are sound related as we ring bells. One of the zone """"feature"""" were the instruments that gave you buff in Bastion (they sucked tho).

[ercarp]

That that both spikes seem to show the same "side" despite very clearly giving the impression of a flatter spike is what gets to me.
They look less like they are part of his hands, and more so that the spikes is some kind of overlay put on haphazardly, which very much is a common flaw of AI gen.

Now that I look at them more closely... I don't think they're even AI generated, I think the spikes were just painted on the model with Photoshop. This is like in the realm of something even I could do (which is to say it's not that difficult).

[arandomuser]

some zone based off an island expedition from bfa
frostfire ridge
spires of arak
val sharah copy paste

honestly i totally believe because that sounds like some of the bland stuff content creators were pushing
as much as everyone hated shadowlands i think it was way more interesting thematically just poorly executed, but because of the poor execution instead of trying anything they will just go easy route.

[Lady Atia]

*ahem*

Spoiler: 

As smooth and deeply cartoony as a lot of models are this expansion, there is still quite a few that follow a more sharp and detailed art style.

Yeah, and all of these look terrible to me. I have the feeling they have one artist who is doing all of these and they prolly think they are super talented or something, instead of adhering to the classic wow style.

[Krakerz]

Look how different the character shadow is between the dwarf image and an ingame shot. The ingame shadow is fuzzier at the edges and is darker, while the dwarf shadow is literally just the sillhouette of the dwarf stretched on the floor and made transparent. And as I said, the shadow of the dwarf hand spike is behind him which makes no sense.|

Also that snow leopard on the right man, it's so goofy looking, like it was pasted in

[Sondrelk]

Now that I look at them more closely... I don't think they're even AI generated, I think the spikes were just painted on the model with Photoshop. This is like in the realm of something even I could do (which is to say it's not that difficult).

That's also possible.

Don't think you being able to do it is a stretch thoughm you are after all acclaimed game developer Chris Metzen.

[pacotaco]

Everyone can come to their own conclusion, but the hands on both frozen dwarf and the other ogre looking something dwarf theres something weird about the hands, one looks better than the other, that one thing is sus to me.

It looks like fist weapons over his hands to me, but who knows.

[matijwow]

If I had access to real stuff to leak, I think I'd take real pictures/screenshots and then use photoshop a little over them.

People would pick apart the photoshopped elements and dismiss the entire thing.

[Lady Atia]

If I had access to real stuff to leak, I think I'd take real pictures/screenshots and then use photoshop a little over them.

People would pick apart the photoshopped elements and dismiss the entire thing.

But why? Why taint your own legit leaks just to troll people?

[Polybius]

Everyone can come to their own conclusion, but the hands on both frozen dwarf and the other ogre looking something dwarf theres something weird about the hands, one looks better than the other, that one thing is sus to me.

It screams AI. The dreadlord images from Scaleface(?) have the same anomaly.

[Rathwell]

If I had access to a sandbox version of Dragonflight and some kind of world edit software, given enough time (like a few days), I could probably replicate the environments shown in the images since they seem to be mostly showing reused assets. People do these kinds of things a lot on servers-which-shall-not-be-named.

Creating the dwarf and dino models is the actual hard part and not something I would be able to do since you need to actually know how to make custom models. At best I would be able to paint over basic dwarf and dino models in Photoshop to make them look like they're custom models, but people would probably be able to tell.

TLDR: Pretty damn hard, but not impossible for someone with the right tools and skillset.

There's a nice easy guide on Youtube on how to modify WoW models using blender and Wowmodelviewer!

If I had access to real stuff to leak, I think I'd take real pictures/screenshots and then use photoshop a little over them.

People would pick apart the photoshopped elements and dismiss the entire thing.

You, my friend, are a monster.

[Izalla]

We can assume based off the four screenshots that it’s going to be another landmass full of undiscovered and undisturbed wilderness with very little civilisation, ergo Dragon Isles 2.0. Because otherwise, the screenshots would have shown us some unique architecture, cities, settlements, landmarks. They’re just bog standard out in the wild shots.

I'm a couple hours behind the thread right now but I just wanna say: I'm still leaning toward these being fake, BUT! We are assuming that someone leaking the game is trying to show us something good, assuming that only someone who likes WoW or is excited about engaging with the community is leaking things to hype people. But what if someone who hates WoW and wants to see people hate on Blizz? We have enough ex WoW junkies on here who have exactly that mindset. Someone like that gets ahold of material to leak? Knowing how this place behaves, someone could easily decide to pick the worst frames of the features trailer to leak for the exact purpose of stirring up this shit. All the naysaying and "Blizzard are shit, these images are boring, I hate this, gonna skip the announcement and the expac" would be exactly what they want.

I don't say that to claim the leak is real, or the person leaking it is doing that, I'm just pointing out that kind of malicious behaviour is totally within the realms of possibility. I still think it's more likely these screenshots have all been fake than that they are real, but we will see I guess. I'm gonna give Blizz the benefit of the doubt that their ability to create interesting and creative environments didn't get lost from one expansion to the next, and wait for Blizzcon to see their presentation.

[pacotaco]

Look how different the character shadow is between the dwarf image and an ingame shot. The ingame shadow is fuzzier at the edges and is darker, while the dwarf shadow is literally just the sillhouette of the dwarf stretched on the floor and made transparent. And as I said, the shadow of the dwarf hand spike is behind him which makes no sense.|

Also that snow leopard on the right man, it's so goofy looking, like it was pasted in

The shadows look different than current ones, but if you look at all other screenshots, all shadows look consistently like that.