The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ersula]

Insane, Warcraft literally takes up the first full day if you disclude overwatch.

I was right about blizzard's proposed Diablo 4 "expansion" would probably just be a paid new class & new actual content would be done as a free update tied to seasons and not a conventional expansion. If it is going to be more than that then the release panel & the Q&A panel would be two different events at Blizzcon.

[vintage79]

we are not preped

[Demonly]

Nope. Nothing is going over my head.

If Avaloren is going to be a whole new continent it won't be a part of 10.3 it will be an expansion. And if its just a "new world" with 3 sub zones then that is just awful and a waste.

Blizzard has stopped doing that many raid tiers as well and it's quite obvious that 10.2 is the final major patch of DF. Avaloren will be a bug brand new thing not a content patch. I do not understand why people still think 10.3 is a thing.

It's consistently been 3 raid tiers per expansion, Tier 1 at the base, Tier 2 in a .1 patch and a Tier 3 in a .2 patch. Amidrassil is the last raid tier.

10.2.7 will most likely be the last and will feature Season 4 with fated raids similar to Shadowlands.

Yes it is going over your head.

If they add a new landmass as a .3 patch (similar to how they did with Argus) that exists ON AZEROTH, that is not a part of the "DRAGON ISLES" then it would be canonically a new continent, not a "new world" not a "new zone" not a new anything but "continent" since it's not anywhere near Dragon Isles.

[Taurelius]

It is, but it makes money.

Corporate greed wins again!

[Hitei]

Yes it is going over your head.

If they add a new landmass as a .3 patch (similar to how they did with Argus) that exists ON AZEROTH, that is not a part of the "DRAGON ISLES" then it would be canonically a new continent, not a "new world" not a "new zone" not a new anything but "continent" since it's not anywhere near Dragon Isles.

Everything we have so far points to there being no 10.3.

[Worldshaper]

That's the second shortest schedule I've ever seen.

Glad there's a deepdive for WoW, but it looks like it's missing a ton of stuff we used to get.

[Sondrelk]

If it will be a World Revamp: will they increase the size of the locations to match new Dragonriding speed?

They won't really have to, so long as they don't want each and every zone to be unique and self contained. They might have to change how the maps work though, to give players a better sense of what is going on in adjacent zones.

But just in terms of actual movement, no. The continents are already the right size. It's just the individual zones that are really small compared to what we have.

[Demonly]

Everything we have so far points to there being no 10.3.

I'm on edge with this still. We only ever end on a .2 patch if it's a really shit tier expansion, and to further my point we've only ever ended on a .2 patch in 2 expansions ever. (Shadowlands and WoD)

[Moth Preacher]

I think they can use extensively unused Mountain Ridges and Coastal Lines to increase the size without changing the shape of the locations

[vintage79]

2.5 h opening ceremony?
1h wow?
1h wow classic?

woooh

[Demonly]

2.5 h opening ceremony?
1h wow?
1h wow classic?

woooh

I'm certain Rumble, Overwatch, & Diablo get some time in this too? Don't they?.. don't they? *frantic panic*

[Cheezits]

I'm on edge with this still. We only ever end on a .2 patch if it's a really shit tier expansion, and to further my point we've only ever ended on a .2 patch in 2 expansions ever. (Shadowlands and WoD)

2 main zone patches will be the new normal from here on out. They likely ran the numbers and saw that not enough people sub in the last year of an expansion for it to be profitable, and "just make better expansions lol" isn't as feasible as just making shorter expansions.

[Northelim]

Everything we have so far points to there being no 10.3.

Thank you for this.

[Demonly]

Thank you for this.

Ignoring fact, and refusing to attempt to provide any substantial conjecture to the conversation.

We've only ever ended on .2 in shit expansions. (Shadowlands & WoD) Dragonflight is most def not a shit expansion and is probably the more well received ones.

[Ersula]

It's consistently been 3 raid tiers per expansion, Tier 1 at the base, Tier 2 in a .1 patch and a Tier 3 in a .2 patch. Amidrassil is the last raid tier.

BFA had 4 different raids (actually 4 regular sized raids & 1 mini raid) corresponding to 4 seasons. Legion the tiers didn't correspond to seasons but it had 3 regular sized raids & 2 "mini" raids. I think Shadowlands only had a fated raid because of Covid. And even then, including 10.2, Dragonflight has a lot less raid encounters total than Shadowlands. I think Fated is only something they'd do if something goes seriously wrong in development.

[ZyntosAran]

I'm certain Rumble, Overwatch, & Diablo get some time in this too? Don't they?.. don't they? *frantic panic*

Rumble, Overwatch and Diablo will get their own time in the opening ceremony yes, and they also have their own panels.

[vintage79]

I'm certain Rumble, Overwatch, & Diablo get some time in this too? Don't they?.. don't they? *frantic panic*

this wow big shift makes me wonder what it could be

[Nyel]

2 main zone patches will be the new normal from here on out. They likely ran the numbers and saw that not enough people sub in the last year of an expansion for it to be profitable, and "just make better expansions lol" isn't as feasible as just making shorter expansions.

Yeah a .3 patch that was as big as Legion‘s for sure didn’t make much sense financially as that’s the lifetime of an expansion where subs tend to be the lowest anyway (until it rebounds with the pre-patch for the next expansion). So to make a .3 patch so big and huge just doesn’t cut the costs.

[matijwow]

I'm on edge with this still. We only ever end on a .2 patch if it's a really shit tier expansion, and to further my point we've only ever ended on a .2 patch in 2 expansions ever. (Shadowlands and WoD)

The patch cadence/meaning of patch numbers was inconsistent across expansions.

6.2 was really the only major patch of WoD because 6.1 added Twitter integration and the SELFIE camera.

9.1 was a disappointing major patch because it added a new zone and new raid, but the zone was pathetically small and bad.

Dragonflight has had 2 zones and multiple world events added before the 10.2 patch.

[Hitei]

I'm on edge with this still. We only ever end on a .2 patch if it's a really shit tier expansion, and to further my point we've only ever ended on a .2 patch in 2 expansions ever. (Shadowlands and WoD)

Shitty is subjective and counting patches is a bit silly in this case. Yes, 2 of the 8 (previous) expansions had .2 patches. And 2 had .4 patches, and only four have had .3. So at best this line of reasoning is 50-50 on expansions ending on .3.

We have a lot of stuff suggesting that there is no 10.3 and pretty much nothing suggesting there is one.