The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

If they make a Japanese-inspired furry race, it should be tanukis (raccoon dogs).

the biggest balls.

[Izalla]

Its the Year of the Wood Dragon next year? I don't know how you guys managed to do this, but it is impressive.

I do like the mount though even if I kind of knew people would go "OH BIG MODEL OH FUCK WHAT DOES IT MEAN" about it.

Well it was already discussed and that conclusion was reached back when the image came out. The only reason it came up again as worth discussing is because there is a mount in Classic which has a name that perfectly fits the wood dragon, despite them never adding the lunar new year mounts to Classic before. It's since been pointed out though that the rabbit was datamined for Classic and never made it into the game, so it might not mean much. Bit weird that they seem to have decided to make one for Classic despite knowing they never used the last one they made for Classic though.

[Wangming]

Can we please get back on topic and discuss the leaks and not Japanese culture? lol

Who knows? We just might return to Pandaria. I mean DF is a second Cata not a secon MoP.
I mean not only we have the Druids of the Flame attacking a world tree again the Firelands raid came in the .2 patch. Like in DF

Not to mention we are fighting angry dragons, one of them made a pact with the void, a good chunk of the plot is about Deathwing, and all the aspects are here.

So yeah, this isn't MoP, this is cata.
That means we still need MoP 2.0
So Chinese culture might be super relevant. Hell, if Avaloren has Mogu I might be more accepting. Especially if one of the factions get them as playable.

[Izalla]

If they make a Japanese-inspired furry race, it should be tanukis (raccoon dogs).

I'm afraid to know what their racial abilities would be.

[Sondrelk]

I don't play M+ at all, because I don't find that level of challenge fun. Not everyone thinks things being super challenging is fun. Some do, clearly. But dragonriding has to be comfortable to the most people possible, because it is a core feature. Races are the solution to extra challenge. Getting from point A to point B should not be overly challenge for the random average WoW player.

I am not saying to make it super challenging. I am saying to add more of a gameplay twist to it to make it more engaging.
Sure, you might not play M+. Personally I don't care for pushing keys or progression raiding, but I do still need that baseline level of challenge to make farming raids enjoyable.
I am sure you have something you enjoy in the game. And I am sure that the challenge is part of that reason. Whether it's the challenge of gathering cosmetics. The challenge of matching Transmog for the perfect set. Or the challenge of bog standard questing.

And the point with basic movement is that we already have an extremely easy, extremely convenient solution to that. They are called flight paths, and they take you from point A to B with two click of a button.

Dragonriding should still be convenient and accessible to everyone. But it shouldn't be the catch all solution to everything. And currently I feel it is.

[Wangming]

You know what race would scream japan and is missing from wow? Ratfolk.

How did you figure that out?

If you would have asked me I would have said fox people, but we have those.

[Moth Preacher]

I'm not really sure why old flying and even older flying paths even deserve any kind of an attention or should be encouraged in any way

[matijwow]

You know what race would scream japan and is missing from wow? Ratfolk. And not the usual fantasy ratfolk, stealthy dirty and fearful, proper samurai, valuing martial prowess, honor and family above all else. More Splinter from TMNT than skaven from warhammer

Let us know when you find the secret rat city in the Deeprun Tram.

[Sondrelk]

This kinda take is what got us the atrocious SL and BFA Zones where every 5 seconds you ran into a mob that stunned you off your mount and just made your day awful.

Quit while your ahead.

Edit: That is to say, sometimes its ok to have a task that is just getting from point a to b. It can be trivial. Perhaps navigating the storms themselves are faster or something to help you but absolutely fully disagree with this take that in order for the game to be fun it has to not be trivial.

It is a challenge, and it's own with several solutions.

You could be a tank and ignore daze mechanics.
You could buy a boarding for your mount that does the same.
You could take a different route.
You could take a flight path, skipping all of that.

Flying collapses all of those choices into one. Use your flying mount.
And while Dragonriding is much better than old flying in this regard, it could still be better designed.

[Makorus]

I'm not really sure why old flying and even older flying paths even deserve any kind of an attention or should be encouraged in any way

Flightpaths are alright.

Sometimes when I need to have a pee, I get on a flightpath rather than flying manually.

[matijwow]

I don't understand how they said having people use the portals in Cataclysm was bad, then in BfA and Shadowlands they came up with even worse ways to separate zones.

[Moth Preacher]

Flightpaths are alright.

Sometimes when I need to have a pee, I get on a flightpath rather than flying manually.

I mean, yeah. These are their use cases. As well as press an auto-run button on an old mount an go make a tea or something

[Sondrelk]

Who knows? We just might return to Pandaria. I mean DF is a second Cata not a secon MoP.
I mean not only we have the Druids of the Flame attacking a world tree again the Firelands raid came in the .2 patch. Like in DF

Not to mention we are fighting angry dragons, one of them made a pact with the void, a good chunk of the plot is about Deathwing, and all the aspects are here.

So yeah, this isn't MoP, this is cata.
That means we still need MoP 2.0
So Chinese culture might be super relevant. Hell, if Avaloren has Mogu I might be more accepting. Especially if one of the factions get them as playable.

I have been wondering what a Pandaria revamp would look like.
Obviously, the next question after a world revamp of EK and Kalimdor is what area will be reused next. Outland already kinda got a revamp with WoD, and that only leaves Northrend and Pandaria as old continents that could use a fresh coat of paint.

[Leowyld]

Dragonriding should still be convenient and accessible to everyone. But it shouldn't be the catch all solution to everything. And currently I feel it is.

If it is better and people enjoy it more - and most people are enjoying dynamic flight in its *current* form - then why can't it be the solution to everything. What is wrong with that. Even now, flightpaths are still useful if you have to AFK or don't want to focus on the trip. Static flight will still likely be preferable for gathering. This is all true *without* introducing artificial difficulty. Why mess up one of the most universal wins this game has had?

[Ferlion]

I'm still banking on their being a surprise Warcraft RPG being worked on.

It's been something I've heard about in leak communities for years now, almost as long as the rumors for the survival game that ended up being real.
It might all be BS, mind. But I can dream!

[matijwow]

If they make a Japanese-inspired furry race, it should be tanukis (raccoon dogs).

They already have the wolvar in Northrend that look like raccoon/wolverine men.

[Azalar]

I don't understand how they said having people use the portals in Cataclysm was bad, then in BfA and Shadowlands they came up with even worse ways to separate zones.

They said portals felt disconnected, but well, you can't always expect things to happen all at the same place all the time, don't you?

[Musta]

So guys, after all this leaks how certain we are that its NOT avaloren? Because im fearing it.................

[Azalar]

So guys, after all this leaks how certain we are that its NOT avaloren? Because im fearing it.................

It's fairly possible that it's Avaloren, but it's also fairly possible that it's not as bad as it can seem because we know nothing else other than these 4 random pics?

[Leowyld]

If I had to bet, I would say Avaloren is more likely than not, at this point. And to be clear, that is even without those four screenshots (although, I do still think those are probably real)