The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[kavikor]

agreed, that's why i thought it was worth posting. Photoshop doesn't mean it is fake, but it's weird

I also feel like i remember ppl saying something abt the image data or artifacts were tampered with in the Bolvar shadowlands leak too and people claimed fake

and then we obviously saw how that turned out

idk what exactly the argument was, but i would say fake just yet based on something like this!

ps. not specifically trying to target you Picle, just replyting to continue this conversation

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I'll be upfront, I really don't see that as an issue. I have fun playing a new season or expansion. IT doesn't matter to me if the new expansion is a year out to two years out, as long as there isn't a massive gap in content. Thus far, there hasn't been a massive gap in content, and Dragonflight feels like I've had more content even if it's a shorter experience over all.

The plan to rotation out Mythic+ dungeons has done such a good job at keeping me invested in the seasons.

I think thats fine to have continous content, i just dont want to see fated take the place of actual new content and last as long as a raid tier would have

fated is cool, but it should be filler not a replacement for a brand new raid and new developed content whilst we still have to wait 2 years for the next thing

[Vakir]

'Splosion of Azeroths.

[Chickat]

Gotta wonder what they WERE shown, then.

My first thought was "maybe they were shown only a piece of the puzzle, like a partial revamp, but not the new zones, thus a lack of ability to confirm/deny," but even that would be knowing something.



This is why the modern version of "leak season" would be wonderful to be shot in the foot for a long time.

It usually causes the opposite. I can't think of the last expansion that lived up to the version in people's minds over the 2-3 months of speculation and wish lists since Legion.

If we found a way to create fakes that are indistinguishable from reality, not trashy AI and not total asset reuse minus one dinosaur, imagine how much more exciting things would be when people are forced to discount everything.

Yeah i have a feeling those pics are fake and that whatever is at Blizzcon will be hype. Revamp or not.

[Bwgmon]

Eh, why would you use photoshop for something like that though? Any basic image app will do it and do it faster.

As someone who still boots up GIMP when collaging images, I'd chalk it up to force of habit. By the time I think about using Paint or something, I've already got the program open and the first image in place.

[Chickat]

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1717994763054411970

"Get ready for the future of Warcraft!"

they are so high-balling, if it is a mediocre Avaloren Island Expension, we gonna have a field day of hating.

I don't think they would do that if they expected it to be mid. They always hype the reveal up but this year it feels like they are hyping into overdrive.

Either the reveal will be amazing.
Or they are truly the out of touch with the player base.

[KayRule]

Is there any reason every is certain the expansion name will be "SoA"?

[blaatschaap]

I think any setup or bridges for the next expansion will have already happened, because we are getting the expansion announcement before 10.2 even goes live. That's why I suspect if we get a connection, it will be something like Iridikron and his void portal. It acts like a bridge in the same way Sylvanas flying off in BfA, before the N'zoth conclusion, did.

similarly, archimonde sending alternate gul'dan through the black gate at the end of wod.

[Nymrohd]

Yeah i have a feeling those pics are fake and that whatever is at Blizzcon will be hype. Revamp or not.

See I used to believe that Blizzard cannot do an expansion reveal that fails to hype me. It happened with MoP and they proved me wrong after all. But then both SL and DF were just unsuccesful reveals imo. SL had no meat and DF had no hook.

[Fahrad Wagner]

'Splosion of Azeroths.

best one by far

[Ferlion]

Is there any reason every is certain the expansion name will be "SoA"?

a leaker from the diablo leak said it was SoA is the only reason I know of, but I think its tongue and cheek

[Nymrohd]

Is there any reason every is certain the expansion name will be "SoA"?

There was a fairly valid Diablo leak that briefly mentions a revamp and SoA. The Diablo parts are very detailed but the warcraft part is one line and very likely false. Not sure where it originated since I've only seen what was posted in the Diablo forum here.

[Picle]

I also feel like i remember ppl saying something abt the image data or artifacts were tampered with in the Bolvar shadowlands leak too and people claimed fake

and then we obviously saw how that turned out

idk what exactly the argument was, but i would say fake just yet based on something like this!

ps. not specifically trying to target you Picle, just replyting to continue this conversation

all good ^_^

i think this is a little different. these metadata tags exist because it seems the program used to create the JPEG was Photoshop. AFAIK these tags are unable to be manipulated after they are created (non-writable). think of it sort of like a watermark

it certainly is not definitive evidence that the images are fake. but if they are real, it does strike me as odd that they would open Photoshop at all

[Chickat]

Even if the Avaloren leak is real, there is bound to be much more impressive features in the game than just a new continent with 8 new dungeons and a raid.

Agreed. They spent feature design time redesigning the game in Dragonflight so we should have at least one big thing again. Something like Warfronts,islands, Torghast,garrions etc.

I have had fun with all of those features btw. They could gave been better but all had redeeming qualities.

[rainhard]

Anyone remember the datamined 1% racials that seemed to be rotational or something in 10.2? Do we know what they are about? perhaps its a hint of a racial revamp coming with a world revamp?

[Nymrohd]

Agreed. They spent feature design time redesigning the game in Dragonflight so we should have at least one big thing again. Something like Warfronts,islands, Torghast,garrions etc.

I have had fun with all of those features btw. They could gave been better but all had redeeming qualities.

Their problem imo was that all of them were designed to be one off, bound to expansion themes and many of them were just poorly iterated upon.

[Chickat]

I mean, if completely redesigned physics for/and flying, talent trees, and a major profession revamp qualifies as "only" I'm really not sure any feature is going to make people happy.

That's all major and impressive.

Yes it was a massive amount of work and long time players appreciated it but it wasn't a very good tactic yo bring back lapsed players, or yo recruit new ones. You need something big and flashy. It could be garrions/Torghast, islands etc.

Think about how much worse the sales would have been too if DF had no nee class?

[jeezusisacasual]

Whatever the theme of the expansion it should have at the bare minimum the same amount of content as BFA not DF or SL. We should expect that level of work put into the game which massive and i would go as far to say its amount of content was equal to Legion if not more and anything less should be mocked and settling for less should not be an option at all. They just can not muck up the gearing like BFA did and i would venture to say if they did not launch with azerite armor and instead tier sets and had the neck been the primary power progression system it would be heralded as the 2nd best expansion.

[Doolb]

I'm not really seeing why people are seemingly so mad about the leaked screenshots. Generic high fantasy zones is what people have asked for for years

[Nymrohd]

I mean, if completely redesigned physics for/and flying, talent trees, and a major profession revamp qualifies as "only" I'm really not sure any feature is going to make people happy.

That's all major and impressive.

And that was all well and good but those are base systems. They do not give you new ways to play the game, they just enhance the existing ways you play the game.

[jeezusisacasual]

Their problem imo was that all of them were designed to be one off, bound to expansion themes and many of them were just poorly iterated upon.

Thats a large issue in that treating each expansion like its own game instead of a larger over arching connected game.