The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[ZyntosAran]

Expansion Leak / WoW SoA / World of Warcraft - Storms of Avaloren

• One new battleground at launch.

Fake. /10char

[Cheezits]

Well, well I've read the moth dragon thing somewhere else...

It's a longer more elaborate version of another Storms of Avaloren leak, which was already bullshit because it said old specs are being changed to support.

[Moth Preacher]

moth-looking green dragons

I'm sold. That's the one!

[Cheezits]

The fact that DF is almost certainly going to end with this raid and a fated season just underlines that it's a filler expansion to make more room for working on the World Revamp.
It's already a tall ask for players to accept a lesser expansion in return of a better one. Doing that twice in a row would shoot expectations for a World Revamp far beyond what I think is even remotely feasible short of a full on WoW 2.0 update.

Or new expansions are now intended to be three raids and a fated season and they conned everyone at the beginning of Dragonflight.

[Merryck]

any pirates ? raaaar

No pirates is literally the only thing we know is confirmed.

[vintage79]

Expansion Leak / WoW SoA / World of Warcraft - Storms of Avaloren

• Continent: Avaloren: Four zones – Khaz Algar, Agg’orand, The Everward, and Greyveil Glade (Stormy
snow-covered mountain region, rocky desert plains, a lush living jungle covering titan ruins with
unique moth-looking green dragons, and misty forest think of a more open space Grizzly Hills)
• The Algaren capital city is in Khaz Algar, think half above ground, half underground, more rocky and
less precisely carved looking Ironforge.
• Eight dungeons at launch (Four of which are 12.0 Season 1 Mythic+ dungeons).
• One raid at launch.
• One new battleground at launch.
• Dynamic flying carried through into Avaloren.
• No static flying at launch.
• New dynamic flying glyphs, one I’ve seen previewed is a really fast lightning boost.
• Level cap raised to 80.
• New support specialisation for Shaman at launch, and support specialisations in the works for
Demon Hunters and Rogues (assuming Bard).
• Assuming in 11.2.7 or the pre-patch, Dracthyr will be able to play as: Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest,
Shaman, Mage, Warlock, Monk, Druid, and of course Evoker.
• Assuming in 11.2.7 or the pre-patch, every race will be able to play as Shaman and Druids.
• New race: The Algaren, are large (Orc sized) stone dwarves that come in various rocky colours and
styles.
• The Algaren starting area is a small island off the coast of Khaz Algar, here they come across the
Tyr’s guard, Horde, and Alliance for the first time. After the Alliance and Horde help the Algaren fight
against the hostile forces of Odyn some Algaren have decided to pledge allegiance to either the
Alliance/Horde much like the Dracthyr and Pandaren did.
• No new profession, but the Archaeology revamp might as well be.
• Pre-launch event includes helping the reformed Tyr’s guard fight the forces of Odyn (Travard has
received a unique model and plays our Khadgar, Magni, Bolvar role).
• We venture to Avaloren alongside the Tyr’s guard and Tyr himself in pursuit of Odyn.
• Odyn is in pursuit of Iridikron who is in pursuit of a “powerful titan artifact”. Odyn enraged by the 5
Dragonflight’s betrayal and the Horde/Alliance/Tyr’s guard’s choice to align with the Dragonflights
has turned him hostile towards us.
• The first portion of SoA will focus more on Odyn than Iridikron and the void.
• Xal’atath is back (and has also received a unique model).
• Silvermoon, Gilneas, and post-launch Lordaeron revamps with more to come.

These are the major things I can recall, feel free to ask any more specific questions, and if I can answer them I will.

1. Describe any new dungs /names/thems/boses/locations/etc
2. How many bosess in raid / raid name /theme /etc
3. What new about flying ? combat aerial? new flying mount skills?
4. The Algaren- classes avil? racials? anything?
5. What about magni
6. Any legendary questline?
7. What about pirates? ships? open seas? anything?
8. Any new single player content like visions /mage towers?
9.?
10.When we gona drop some azerite bomb on stormwind?
11.Do we rly gona get StarCraft 3 if we pass 3000 pages on this topic?

also

I like how he space jump form not-even-on-horizon-prepatch-11.0 to 12.0 prepatch xD

[Mace]

Just as true as your Shadowlands "leak"?

once it contains everything fans want, it's always false:

World revamp + new continent = massive red flag
not to meniton:
ciity revamps with uses
class skins
new specs

why not just throw in a new class and race too.. fake! too much..

Now the lead by SoA just looks far more plausible at this point.

[Paula Deen]

Expansion Leak / WoW SoA / World of Warcraft - Storms of Avaloren

• Continent: Avaloren: Four zones – Khaz Algar, Agg’orand, The Everward, and Greyveil Glade (Stormy
snow-covered mountain region, rocky desert plains, a lush living jungle covering titan ruins with
unique moth-looking green dragons, and misty forest think of a more open space Grizzly Hills)
• The Algaren capital city is in Khaz Algar, think half above ground, half underground, more rocky and
less precisely carved looking Ironforge.
• Eight dungeons at launch (Four of which are 12.0 Season 1 Mythic+ dungeons).
• One raid at launch.
• One new battleground at launch.
• Dynamic flying carried through into Avaloren.
• No static flying at launch.
• New dynamic flying glyphs, one I’ve seen previewed is a really fast lightning boost.
• Level cap raised to 80.
• New support specialisation for Shaman at launch, and support specialisations in the works for
Demon Hunters and Rogues (assuming Bard).
• Assuming in 11.2.7 or the pre-patch, Dracthyr will be able to play as: Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest,
Shaman, Mage, Warlock, Monk, Druid, and of course Evoker.
• Assuming in 11.2.7 or the pre-patch, every race will be able to play as Shaman and Druids.
• New race: The Algaren, are large (Orc sized) stone dwarves that come in various rocky colours and
styles.
• The Algaren starting area is a small island off the coast of Khaz Algar, here they come across the
Tyr’s guard, Horde, and Alliance for the first time. After the Alliance and Horde help the Algaren fight
against the hostile forces of Odyn some Algaren have decided to pledge allegiance to either the
Alliance/Horde much like the Dracthyr and Pandaren did.
• No new profession, but the Archaeology revamp might as well be.
• Pre-launch event includes helping the reformed Tyr’s guard fight the forces of Odyn (Travard has
received a unique model and plays our Khadgar, Magni, Bolvar role).
• We venture to Avaloren alongside the Tyr’s guard and Tyr himself in pursuit of Odyn.
• Odyn is in pursuit of Iridikron who is in pursuit of a “powerful titan artifact”. Odyn enraged by the 5
Dragonflight’s betrayal and the Horde/Alliance/Tyr’s guard’s choice to align with the Dragonflights
has turned him hostile towards us.
• The first portion of SoA will focus more on Odyn than Iridikron and the void.
• Xal’atath is back (and has also received a unique model).
• Silvermoon, Gilneas, and post-launch Lordaeron revamps with more to come.

These are the major things I can recall, feel free to ask any more specific questions, and if I can answer them I will.

I have a question. Why exactly would the titan free paradise with hookers and azerite have titan ruins on it? Make it make sense.

[SoA]

Not that I know of, sorry!

[flan1337]

Do we have a confirmation from blizz to expect an expac announcement on blizzcon (alternative being a later stream for that like DF)?

Tho I assume even if we dont have confirmation they would come out and say it wouldn't be announced already to manage expectations.

Also exciting that the first non roadmap patch is on vendor builds, gives me a bit hope that we will get 10.3 if they plan on sticking to the 2 month release schedule

I mean this tweet basically confirms it: https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1714370884230611158

[CrossNgen]

Or new expansions are now intended to be three raids and a fated season and they conned everyone at the beginning of Dragonflight.

It's very possible they've turned Shadowland's "fix" into the new norm, which is a real shame.

[taishar68]

No pirates is literally the only thing we know is confirmed.

It would be very tongue in cheek if there was a quest near a shore and we find some pirates and they're all "No one is supposed to know we're here!"

[SoA]

I know "Take my word for it" is a big thing. But yes, this is it.

[Mace]

Expansion Leak / WoW SoA / World of Warcraft - Storms of Avaloren

• Continent: Avaloren: Four zones – Khaz Algar, Agg’orand, The Everward, and Greyveil Glade (Stormy
snow-covered mountain region, rocky desert plains, a lush living jungle covering titan ruins with
unique moth-looking green dragons, and misty forest think of a more open space Grizzly Hills)
• The Algaren capital city is in Khaz Algar, think half above ground, half underground, more rocky and
less precisely carved looking Ironforge.
• Eight dungeons at launch (Four of which are 11.0 Season 1 Mythic+ dungeons).
• One raid at launch.
• One new battleground at launch.
• Dynamic flying carried through into Avaloren.
• No static flying at launch.
• New dynamic flying glyphs, one I’ve seen previewed is a really fast lightning boost.
• Level cap raised to 80.
• New support specialisation for Shaman at launch, and support specialisations in the works for
Demon Hunters and Rogues (assuming Bard).
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, Dracthyr will be able to play as: Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest,
Shaman, Mage, Warlock, Monk, Druid, and of course Evoker.
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, every race will be able to play as Shaman and Druids.
• New race: The Algaren, are large (Orc sized) stone dwarves that come in various rocky colours and
styles.
• The Algaren starting area is a small island off the coast of Khaz Algar, here they come across the
Tyr’s guard, Horde, and Alliance for the first time. After the Alliance and Horde help the Algaren fight
against the hostile forces of Odyn some Algaren have decided to pledge allegiance to either the
Alliance/Horde much like the Dracthyr and Pandaren did.
• No new profession, but the Archaeology revamp might as well be.
• Pre-launch event includes helping the reformed Tyr’s guard fight the forces of Odyn (Travard has
received a unique model and plays our Khadgar, Magni, Bolvar role).
• We venture to Avaloren alongside the Tyr’s guard and Tyr himself in pursuit of Odyn.
• Odyn is in pursuit of Iridikron who is in pursuit of a “powerful titan artifact”. Odyn enraged by the 5
Dragonflight’s betrayal and the Horde/Alliance/Tyr’s guard’s choice to align with the Dragonflights
has turned him hostile towards us.
• The first portion of SoA will focus more on Odyn than Iridikron and the void.
• Xal’atath is back (and has also received a unique model).
• Silvermoon, Gilneas, and post-launch Lordaeron revamps with more to come.

These are the major things I can recall, feel free to ask any more specific questions, and if I can answer them I will.

Okay.. now htis sounds hte most plausible and belivable, and .. potentially exciting but meh.. don't care much. Nice if Silvermoon gets revamp, heard that a few times.

[Houle]

This might be it, lines up with the "leaked" images.

Prolly bc he saw those leaked images and piggybacked off of them...

[ercarp]

Expansion Leak / WoW SoA / World of Warcraft - Storms of Avaloren

• Continent: Avaloren: Four zones – Khaz Algar, Agg’orand, The Everward, and Greyveil Glade (Stormy
snow-covered mountain region, rocky desert plains, a lush living jungle covering titan ruins with
unique moth-looking green dragons, and misty forest think of a more open space Grizzly Hills)
• The Algaren capital city is in Khaz Algar, think half above ground, half underground, more rocky and
less precisely carved looking Ironforge.
• Eight dungeons at launch (Four of which are 12.0 Season 1 Mythic+ dungeons).
• One raid at launch.
• One new battleground at launch.
• Dynamic flying carried through into Avaloren.
• No static flying at launch.
• New dynamic flying glyphs, one I’ve seen previewed is a really fast lightning boost.
• Level cap raised to 80.
• New support specialisation for Shaman at launch, and support specialisations in the works for
Demon Hunters and Rogues (assuming Bard).
• Assuming in 11.2.7 or the pre-patch, Dracthyr will be able to play as: Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest,
Shaman, Mage, Warlock, Monk, Druid, and of course Evoker.
• Assuming in 11.2.7 or the pre-patch, every race will be able to play as Shaman and Druids.
• New race: The Algaren, are large (Orc sized) stone dwarves that come in various rocky colours and
styles.
• The Algaren starting area is a small island off the coast of Khaz Algar, here they come across the
Tyr’s guard, Horde, and Alliance for the first time. After the Alliance and Horde help the Algaren fight
against the hostile forces of Odyn some Algaren have decided to pledge allegiance to either the
Alliance/Horde much like the Dracthyr and Pandaren did.
• No new profession, but the Archaeology revamp might as well be.
• Pre-launch event includes helping the reformed Tyr’s guard fight the forces of Odyn (Travard has
received a unique model and plays our Khadgar, Magni, Bolvar role).
• We venture to Avaloren alongside the Tyr’s guard and Tyr himself in pursuit of Odyn.
• Odyn is in pursuit of Iridikron who is in pursuit of a “powerful titan artifact”. Odyn enraged by the 5
Dragonflight’s betrayal and the Horde/Alliance/Tyr’s guard’s choice to align with the Dragonflights
has turned him hostile towards us.
• The first portion of SoA will focus more on Odyn than Iridikron and the void.
• Xal’atath is back (and has also received a unique model).
• Silvermoon, Gilneas, and post-launch Lordaeron revamps with more to come.

These are the major things I can recall, feel free to ask any more specific questions, and if I can answer them I will.

Why is it always "Algaren" with these leaks when the datamined mount clearly says "Algarian"?

Also, not a single mention of the Agg'ora from the website leak (which this leak seems to be based on)?

In fact, the wording here, with the Algaren being described as "orc sized" and coming in "various colors" leads me to believe that whoever wrote this believes the two races are one and the same—when the website very clearly distinguishes between the two.

[PotHockets]

It would be very tongue in cheek if there was a quest near a shore and we find some pirates and they're all "No one is supposed to know we're here!"

Or if one of the Pirate factions we know about shows up as a sort of anti-hero renown and they're not pirates anymore they're Privateers for Stormwind or something.

[taishar68]

Or if one of the Pirate factions we know about shows up as a sort of anti-hero renown and they're not pirates anymore they're Privateers for Stormwind or something.

It's about time the Bloodsail did more than pick off stray crocolisks on Janiero Point.

[Chickat]

The leak those screenshots supposedly were related to said 4 zones.

Again, it doesn't matter. There's little chance the next expansion takes place on Avaloren.

True. Im about 80% on it being fake but its still really well done.

[NikolaiShade]

I have a question. Why exactly would the titan free paradise with hookers and azerite have titan ruins on it? Make it make sense.

We venture to Avaloren alongside the Tyr’s guard and Tyr himself in pursuit of Odyn.
The whole gig of Avaloren is being unreachable by Odyn (more likely by anyone) and now he's waltzed there and we go too like it's a trip to the beack... Ok