The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Zaelsino]

• Silvermoon, Gilneas, and post-launch Lordaeron revamps with more to come.

I want to believe.

[Paula Deen]

We venture to Avaloren alongside the Tyr’s guard and Tyr himself in pursuit of Odyn.
The whole gig of Avaloren is being unreachable by Odyn (more likely by anyone) and now he's waltzed there and we go too like it's a trip to the beack... Ok

That and somehow it already has titan ruins on it....like WHAT

[SoA]

1. Vrykrul dungeon fighting through a sort of giant Viking looking encampment, A cave layout dungeon with stone ogres, a hostile plant dungeon like we saw with the Everbloom.
2. IDK number of bosses but I'd assume the usual. IDK name either sorry. It's Odyn themed.
3. No combat in the air, unless you consider the world quests where you fly through things? Yeah the glyph I mentioned is one like that.
4. I've seen video of a priest in a trailer.
5. No info on Magni
6. IDK
7. I've heard or seen nothing about Pirates TBH with you.
8. Not sure either! Not a major feature if so.

[Kiivar86]

Why is it always "Algaren" with these leaks when the datamined mount clearly says "Algarian"?

Something like that isn't unheard of, even in game.

We have Pandaren, yet we have Pandarian Garnet and rare mobs in Pandaria called Pandarian Champions.

Just that the race is Pandaren but things of Pandaria are thus Pandarian. Same would hold true with this Algaren stuff. An Algaren person, but an Algarian mount. Etc.

[SoA]

Something is being covered up and Odyn intends to keep it that way.

[Worldshaper]

If I had a nickel everytime someone in this thraid said "this might be it?"...

[Paula Deen]

Something is being covered up and Odyn intends to keep it that way.

What? Whats being covered up? Like if you knew more then why didn't you spill the beans in your post lol

If I had a nickel everytime someone in this thraid said "this might be it?"...

This might be ENDLESS TRASH

[micwini]

Expansion Leak / WoW SoA / World of Warcraft - Storms of Avaloren

• Continent: Avaloren: Four zones – Khaz Algar, Agg’orand, The Everward, and Greyveil Glade (Stormy
snow-covered mountain region, rocky desert plains, a lush living jungle covering titan ruins with
unique moth-looking green dragons, and misty forest think of a more open space Grizzly Hills)
• The Algaren capital city is in Khaz Algar, think half above ground, half underground, more rocky and
less precisely carved looking Ironforge.
• Eight dungeons at launch (Four of which are 11.0 Season 1 Mythic+ dungeons).
• One raid at launch.
• One new battleground at launch.
• Dynamic flying carried through into Avaloren.
• No static flying at launch.
• New dynamic flying glyphs, one I’ve seen previewed is a really fast lightning boost.
• Level cap raised to 80.
• New support specialisation for Shaman at launch, and support specialisations in the works for
Demon Hunters and Rogues (assuming Bard).
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, Dracthyr will be able to play as: Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest,
Shaman, Mage, Warlock, Monk, Druid, and of course Evoker.
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, every race will be able to play as Shaman and Druids.
• New race: The Algaren, are large (Orc sized) stone dwarves that come in various rocky colours and
styles.
• The Algaren starting area is a small island off the coast of Khaz Algar, here they come across the
Tyr’s guard, Horde, and Alliance for the first time. After the Alliance and Horde help the Algaren fight
against the hostile forces of Odyn some Algaren have decided to pledge allegiance to either the
Alliance/Horde much like the Dracthyr and Pandaren did.
• No new profession, but the Archaeology revamp might as well be.
• Pre-launch event includes helping the reformed Tyr’s guard fight the forces of Odyn (Travard has
received a unique model and plays our Khadgar, Magni, Bolvar role).
• We venture to Avaloren alongside the Tyr’s guard and Tyr himself in pursuit of Odyn.
• Odyn is in pursuit of Iridikron who is in pursuit of a “powerful titan artifact”. Odyn enraged by the 5
Dragonflight’s betrayal and the Horde/Alliance/Tyr’s guard’s choice to align with the Dragonflights
has turned him hostile towards us.
• The first portion of SoA will focus more on Odyn than Iridikron and the void.
• Xal’atath is back (and has also received a unique model).
• Silvermoon, Gilneas, and post-launch Lordaeron revamps with more to come.

These are the major things I can recall, feel free to ask any more specific questions, and if I can answer them I will.

New BG -> Fake

[Teriz]

So if these screenshots turn out to be real come Blizzcon, are the "it's fake" enthusiasts going to humbly admit it or are they gonna double down with "well it's soo lazy and uninspired, Avaloren is ridiculous, how could i have NOT obviously assumed it was fake?!?" And vice versa

If those screenshots and Avaloren are real I'll have no issue saying I'm wrong. I'll also be partially relieved because I'll be saving $60 on a new WoW expansion and not playing or thinking about WoW until 2025 when 12.0 is revealed.

For the sake of the game though, I hope I'm right, because Avaloren sounds like an uninspired mess.

[Mace]

Expansion Leak / WoW SoA / World of Warcraft - Storms of Avaloren

• Continent: Avaloren: Four zones – Khaz Algar, Agg’orand, The Everward, and Greyveil Glade (Stormy
snow-covered mountain region, rocky desert plains, a lush living jungle covering titan ruins with
unique moth-looking green dragons, and misty forest think of a more open space Grizzly Hills)
• The Algaren capital city is in Khaz Algar, think half above ground, half underground, more rocky and
less precisely carved looking Ironforge.
• Eight dungeons at launch (Four of which are 11.0 Season 1 Mythic+ dungeons).
• One raid at launch.
• One new battleground at launch.
• Dynamic flying carried through into Avaloren.
• No static flying at launch.
• New dynamic flying glyphs, one I’ve seen previewed is a really fast lightning boost.
• Level cap raised to 80.
• New support specialisation for Shaman at launch, and support specialisations in the works for
Demon Hunters and Rogues (assuming Bard).
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, Dracthyr will be able to play as: Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest,
Shaman, Mage, Warlock, Monk, Druid, and of course Evoker.
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, every race will be able to play as Shaman and Druids.
• New race: The Algaren, are large (Orc sized) stone dwarves that come in various rocky colours and
styles.
• The Algaren starting area is a small island off the coast of Khaz Algar, here they come across the
Tyr’s guard, Horde, and Alliance for the first time. After the Alliance and Horde help the Algaren fight
against the hostile forces of Odyn some Algaren have decided to pledge allegiance to either the
Alliance/Horde much like the Dracthyr and Pandaren did.
• No new profession, but the Archaeology revamp might as well be.
• Pre-launch event includes helping the reformed Tyr’s guard fight the forces of Odyn (Travard has
received a unique model and plays our Khadgar, Magni, Bolvar role).
• We venture to Avaloren alongside the Tyr’s guard and Tyr himself in pursuit of Odyn.
• Odyn is in pursuit of Iridikron who is in pursuit of a “powerful titan artifact”. Odyn enraged by the 5
Dragonflight’s betrayal and the Horde/Alliance/Tyr’s guard’s choice to align with the Dragonflights
has turned him hostile towards us.
• The first portion of SoA will focus more on Odyn than Iridikron and the void.
• Xal’atath is back (and has also received a unique model).
• Silvermoon, Gilneas, and post-launch Lordaeron revamps with more to come.

These are the major things I can recall, feel free to ask any more specific questions, and if I can answer them I will.

No world revamp though, which while disappointing, fits, i don't expect them to do both a new continent and world revamp.

This is the sort of information I would wonder about this leak: Is it only Gilneas and Silvermoon getting makeovers? Will it be intergrated into the continent? Full zone revamp or just city? any requesting? Druid/shaman classes just landing or coming with quests? What about Azurmyst and Exodar? No new night elf capital yet... is it Amir'drassil, is it coming? will it have a city or be the raid? where will it land.

Getting new race and class, but it is also lacking major new features. We got dynamic flying last expansion, what's the major feature this one?

There also something nagging me, it fits very well all the more believable leaks we have gotten - tbh, none of the info here has not been mentioned before. Except some minor points like the new race is playable and Xalatah has a new model, and some extra lore detail, but major feature short.

[SoA]

The Algaren are Orc sized stone dwarves and the Agg'ora are massive more Ogre sized stone... giants? Vrykrul? IDK. They are something, but they are bigger.

[justwatching]

Its extremely underwhelming so that automatically makes it more believable. That being said we are probably gonna see a ton of "leaks" based on the screenshots now.

[Valysar]

This is it boys, that's the one
(which is just a mix of everything we know)

[Chickat]

Expansion Leak / WoW SoA / World of Warcraft - Storms of Avaloren

• Continent: Avaloren: Four zones – Khaz Algar, Agg’orand, The Everward, and Greyveil Glade (Stormy
snow-covered mountain region, rocky desert plains, a lush living jungle covering titan ruins with
unique moth-looking green dragons, and misty forest think of a more open space Grizzly Hills)
• The Algaren capital city is in Khaz Algar, think half above ground, half underground, more rocky and
less precisely carved looking Ironforge.
• Eight dungeons at launch (Four of which are 11.0 Season 1 Mythic+ dungeons).
• One raid at launch.
• One new battleground at launch.
• Dynamic flying carried through into Avaloren.
• No static flying at launch.
• New dynamic flying glyphs, one I’ve seen previewed is a really fast lightning boost.
• Level cap raised to 80.
• New support specialisation for Shaman at launch, and support specialisations in the works for
Demon Hunters and Rogues (assuming Bard).
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, Dracthyr will be able to play as: Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest,
Shaman, Mage, Warlock, Monk, Druid, and of course Evoker.
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, every race will be able to play as Shaman and Druids.
• New race: The Algaren, are large (Orc sized) stone dwarves that come in various rocky colours and
styles.
• The Algaren starting area is a small island off the coast of Khaz Algar, here they come across the
Tyr’s guard, Horde, and Alliance for the first time. After the Alliance and Horde help the Algaren fight
against the hostile forces of Odyn some Algaren have decided to pledge allegiance to either the
Alliance/Horde much like the Dracthyr and Pandaren did.
• No new profession, but the Archaeology revamp might as well be.
• Pre-launch event includes helping the reformed Tyr’s guard fight the forces of Odyn (Travard has
received a unique model and plays our Khadgar, Magni, Bolvar role).
• We venture to Avaloren alongside the Tyr’s guard and Tyr himself in pursuit of Odyn.
• Odyn is in pursuit of Iridikron who is in pursuit of a “powerful titan artifact”. Odyn enraged by the 5
Dragonflight’s betrayal and the Horde/Alliance/Tyr’s guard’s choice to align with the Dragonflights
has turned him hostile towards us.
• The first portion of SoA will focus more on Odyn than Iridikron and the void.
• Xal’atath is back (and has also received a unique model).
• Silvermoon, Gilneas, and post-launch Lordaeron revamps with more to come.

These are the major things I can recall, feel free to ask any more specific questions, and if I can answer them I will.

See i dont believe this for obvious reasons but this does sound kinda cool tbh.

[Leowyld]

The moth dragons, description of the Khaz Algar capital, and Bard Rogue (among other things) in this "new" leak were in other "leaks". Other things in it are just things we currently know are likely/possible/wanted, like Xal'atath returning and the Silvermoon/Gilneas revamps. Nah, this one has too much trying to appeal to the community to read like an actual expansion leak. And that is a sound strategy, people do tend to mistake what they want for what is likely. So, can't blame anyone for that approach.

[Kiivar86]

In regards to this claim of moth-dragon thing, remember that there's a book in Guardians of the Dream about a green dragon, Erinethira, that says she went west and is thought to have died but some claim she survived and raised a brood over there.

So that would track.

[taishar68]

If I had a nickel everytime someone in this thraid said "this might be it?"...

You'd have a bag of nickels a longshoreman would be envious of!

[SoA]

It's a new small capture the flag like WSG.

- - - Updated - - -

The world revamp is coming in 12.0 and this will be hinted at Blizzcon. This is why we have a lot of "asset flipping" in 11.0 as the artists need time for 12.0.

IDK more than seeing the cities, could be the zones tbh.

[vintage79]

Does bain or any other yghm gona sit in main city for the whole expanion?

[CasualFilth]

Expansion Leak / WoW SoA / World of Warcraft - Storms of Avaloren

• Continent: Avaloren: Four zones – Khaz Algar, Agg’orand, The Everward, and Greyveil Glade (Stormy
snow-covered mountain region, rocky desert plains, a lush living jungle covering titan ruins with
unique moth-looking green dragons, and misty forest think of a more open space Grizzly Hills)
• The Algaren capital city is in Khaz Algar, think half above ground, half underground, more rocky and
less precisely carved looking Ironforge.
• Eight dungeons at launch (Four of which are 11.0 Season 1 Mythic+ dungeons).
• One raid at launch.
• One new battleground at launch.
• Dynamic flying carried through into Avaloren.
• No static flying at launch.
• New dynamic flying glyphs, one I’ve seen previewed is a really fast lightning boost.
• Level cap raised to 80.
• New support specialisation for Shaman at launch, and support specialisations in the works for
Demon Hunters and Rogues (assuming Bard).
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, Dracthyr will be able to play as: Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest,
Shaman, Mage, Warlock, Monk, Druid, and of course Evoker.
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, every race will be able to play as Shaman and Druids.
• New race: The Algaren, are large (Orc sized) stone dwarves that come in various rocky colours and
styles.
• The Algaren starting area is a small island off the coast of Khaz Algar, here they come across the
Tyr’s guard, Horde, and Alliance for the first time. After the Alliance and Horde help the Algaren fight
against the hostile forces of Odyn some Algaren have decided to pledge allegiance to either the
Alliance/Horde much like the Dracthyr and Pandaren did.
• No new profession, but the Archaeology revamp might as well be.
• Pre-launch event includes helping the reformed Tyr’s guard fight the forces of Odyn (Travard has
received a unique model and plays our Khadgar, Magni, Bolvar role).
• We venture to Avaloren alongside the Tyr’s guard and Tyr himself in pursuit of Odyn.
• Odyn is in pursuit of Iridikron who is in pursuit of a “powerful titan artifact”. Odyn enraged by the 5
Dragonflight’s betrayal and the Horde/Alliance/Tyr’s guard’s choice to align with the Dragonflights
has turned him hostile towards us.
• The first portion of SoA will focus more on Odyn than Iridikron and the void.
• Xal’atath is back (and has also received a unique model).
• Silvermoon, Gilneas, and post-launch Lordaeron revamps with more to come.

These are the major things I can recall, feel free to ask any more specific questions, and if I can answer them I will.

Didn't you post this before, like 2 days ago?