The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

Um... that's because they are the zones?

An expansion with only four zones using a ton of rehashed assets and a rehashed setting will be essentially the death knell of this game.

In fact, it's almost like the devs would be trying to Kamikaze the game on purpose.

[Sentynel]

Um... that's because they are the zones?

I just find it weird that these images leak and a few days later you show up spoiling the entire thing. Yeah, I have my doubts.

[Rathwell]

If the race was called Algaren, I think I'd use Algareni or Algarenian for things related to them.

But I suppose Algarian still works for things related to the broader zone of (Khaz) Algar, so it's not really an issue. However, I take issue with some of the other details in the "leak", mainly the lack of any mention of the Agg'ora.

I guess the relationship would be,

(Khaz) Algar (place) -> Algarian (related to the place?) -> Algaren (demographic)

Pandaria (Place) -> Pandarian (related to the place) -> Pandaren (demographic) ?

[justwatching]

Uh when has Blizzard ever done something like that in the history of their expansions?



Pretty much...

Dragonflight is as cookie cutter as it gets. In fact they've been pretty much following the same pattern since Legion and DF even has the arguably smallest "expansion feature" on top of that the content patches are extremely basic.

If we are being rational here there is no reason to expect anything else for 11.0.

[Baraden]

Expansion Leak / WoW SoA / World of Warcraft - Storms of Avaloren

• Continent: Avaloren: Four zones – Khaz Algar, Agg’orand, The Everward, and Greyveil Glade (Stormy
snow-covered mountain region, rocky desert plains, a lush living jungle covering titan ruins with
unique moth-looking green dragons, and misty forest think of a more open space Grizzly Hills)
• The Algaren capital city is in Khaz Algar, think half above ground, half underground, more rocky and
less precisely carved looking Ironforge.
• Eight dungeons at launch (Four of which are 11.0 Season 1 Mythic+ dungeons).
• One raid at launch.
• One new battleground at launch.
• Dynamic flying carried through into Avaloren.
• No static flying at launch.
• New dynamic flying glyphs, one I’ve seen previewed is a really fast lightning boost.
• Level cap raised to 80.
• New support specialisation for Shaman at launch, and support specialisations in the works for
Demon Hunters and Rogues (assuming Bard).
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, Dracthyr will be able to play as: Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest,
Shaman, Mage, Warlock, Monk, Druid, and of course Evoker.
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, every race will be able to play as Shaman and Druids.
• New race: The Algaren, are large (Orc sized) stone dwarves that come in various rocky colours and
styles.
• The Algaren starting area is a small island off the coast of Khaz Algar, here they come across the
Tyr’s guard, Horde, and Alliance for the first time. After the Alliance and Horde help the Algaren fight
against the hostile forces of Odyn some Algaren have decided to pledge allegiance to either the
Alliance/Horde much like the Dracthyr and Pandaren did.
• No new profession, but the Archaeology revamp might as well be.
• Pre-launch event includes helping the reformed Tyr’s guard fight the forces of Odyn (Travard has
received a unique model and plays our Khadgar, Magni, Bolvar role).
• We venture to Avaloren alongside the Tyr’s guard and Tyr himself in pursuit of Odyn.
• Odyn is in pursuit of Iridikron who is in pursuit of a “powerful titan artifact”. Odyn enraged by the 5
Dragonflight’s betrayal and the Horde/Alliance/Tyr’s guard’s choice to align with the Dragonflights
has turned him hostile towards us.
• The first portion of SoA will focus more on Odyn than Iridikron and the void.
• Xal’atath is back (and has also received a unique model).
• Silvermoon, Gilneas, and post-launch Lordaeron revamps with more to come.

These are the major things I can recall, feel free to ask any more specific questions, and if I can answer them I will.

Support specs and Avaloren

Literal nightmare scenario

So uninspired I'm almost certain this is true

[Paula Deen]

Probably because the biggest and most legitimate leak is a steaming pile of crap actively killing Blizzcon hype for retail.

No offense but touch grass.

No one outside of MMOC really cares about leak season in WoW. Its like a % of a % of a % of WoW's playerbase. No one cares.

[Catastrophy349]

I'm pretty excited. These "leaks" are getting me more and more pumped for BlizzCon. Might even be better than DF (one of my favorite expansions ever).

[Merryck]

Probably because the biggest and most legitimate leak is a steaming pile of crap actively killing Blizzcon hype for retail.

And it's fake because it used AI to generate the image of the storm dwarf.

[Teriz]

Dragonflight is as cookie cutter as it gets.

Uh no it isn't. Dragonriding alone disproves that.

[Kiivar86]

No offense but touch grass.

No one outside of MMOC really cares about leak season in WoW. Its like a % of a % of a % of WoW's playerbase. No one cares.

Yeah honestly I do feel like some of y'all are really kinda going overboard with your doom and gloom about things.

I mean I get being disappointed and worrying but just...its like this expansion idea ran over your collective dog or something.

[Catastrophy349]

An expansion with only four zones using a ton of rehashed assets and a rehashed setting will be essentially the death knell of this game.

In fact, it's almost like the devs would be trying to Kamikaze the game on purpose.

That's a subjective "take" that you are trying to pass off as "objective" for the entire WoW community. I heard Zaralek exists!

[DiscipleofCazicThule]

Every time I see a leaker mention large dwarfs, I picture the Darkmoon Faire having the worst freak show. "And now huge dwarfs!" *just a bearded human* "And behold! Short orcs!" *points to the goblin sitting next to the human.*

[Cucumberer]

Probably because the biggest and most legitimate leak is a steaming pile of crap actively killing Blizzcon hype for retail.

You don't seem to like anything related to WoW and want and possibly need it to fail, why are you here? This can't be healthy for your mental state. The amount of specualtion you mine from blurry images to reinforce your own ideal is weird, you spin this whole world of "facts" for it

[vintage79]

Support specs and Avaloren

Literal nightmare scenario

So uninspired I'm almost certain this is true

well if they (blizz) put in game one aug spec - i cant see why they not gona do this on bigger 'scale' (not dat i like it)
What if in the future blizz will go from 3dps/1heal/1tank -> to 2dps/1h/1t/1support spec? ;.;

[Baraden]

You don't seem to like anything related to WoW and want and possibly need it to fail, why are you here? This can't be healthy for your mental state.

Go back through the thread

He's not being hyperbolic here, 90% of the reaction to those screenshots are negative/ not excited at all

[Hitei]

The race is "Pandaren," "Pandarian" is the descriptor. This fits established conventions.

Also, every expansion has new NPC races that aren't listed as selling points. Like the Djardin in DF.

Pandarian is the descriptor because the region is Pandaria. The region here isn't Algaria. It's Algar, and it's not even Algar, because the region is Alvaloren. If the region is Alvaloren, that means the mount comes specifically from the city-state of Khaz Algar, the home of the supposed Algarens, so why would it not be an Algaren Stormrider if it's their mount?

[SoA]

Can u say smth more about Main city ? any remarkable 'thing' ?
same goes about this new bg

what about revamped Silvermoon, Gilneas?
any change in architecture? does gilneas gona look more like classic one ? or recent?

Imagine a walled-off, above-ground dwarf stone town with buildings that kind of look like the Dwarf starting zone buildings just more rocky that go down into an underground city like Ironforge, again with less sharp edges in the stone.

It's a new small capture the flag BG.

Silvermoon has some nightbourne there now and a bit of purple due to that?

Gilneas looks amazing, gothic and the lighting was amazing. There was some Kul Tirans repairing buildings using Drust magic?

[Rathwell]

Here is one. Similar city description. Bard rogues, too. https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...torming-Shores

And thank you @Rathwell, I think that is the actual one I've seen before. And that has the dragon moths, too! Interesting! It's funny that one says no new specs, but this new one says new specs.

Both seem to agree on support specs at least, with some small difference between the two. I hope it's the same guy on a different acc 'cause otherwise these two leaks line up hella well.

[Kiria]

Yeah honestly I do feel like some of y'all are really kinda going overboard with your doom and gloom about things.

I mean I get being disappointed and worrying but just...its like this expansion idea ran over your collective dog or something.

To be fair, the guy who just dropped all the deets, this expansion sounds fine to me and as about as Blizz as you can get, it's gonna be another filler expansion sure but if revamp is 12.0 then thats worth waiting for, also if you dont have interest in 11.0 then there's always gonna be the potential Classic plus?

[ZyntosAran]

Imagine a walled-off, above-ground dwarf stone town with buildings that kind of look like the Dwarf starting zone buildings just more rocky that go down into an underground city like Ironforge, again with less sharp edges in the stone.

It's a new small capture the flag BG.

Silvermoon has some nightbourne there now and a bit of purple due to that?

Gilneas looks amazing, gothic and the lighting was amazing. There was some Kul Tirans repairing buildings using Drust magic?

Can you give us information on what to expect with 10.2.5 and 10.2.7?