The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Rathwell]

Well great. We surely wont hit 2500 pages without Teriz.

In my previous estimate of posts per day, we averaged about 70 pages per day.


Teriz's absence was announced at 1:06 AM last night (CET). At 1:08 CET tonight, Kavikor made this comment,

I think the most ideal Alliance races we could get would be Naga or Vrykul.

Both have deep roots and are long requested

Teriz's post is the 2nd post on page 2025, while Kavikor's is the 2nd post on page 2076. It's therefore exactly 51 pages in between, and we are thereby short 19 pages per 24 hours in Teriz's absence.



Edit: Precisely 24 hours prior to Teriz announcing his departure, he posted this on page 1950,

Azshara is kind of busted because she’s already been used and defeated. What’s the hook in that? We’re going to Avaloren to beat Azshara again? Why?

Iridikron is too new. We know next to nothing about Xal.

If you’re pushing out a new landmass, you need a strong character to carry it. If you have a known landmass, your character doesn’t have to be as strong, but they still should be known. For example, Sylvanas, arguably the most popular character in WoW carrying the Shadowlands (along with Anduin and Tyrande). Meanwhile you had Sylvanas and an ensemble (Saurfang, Jaina, Anduin, and Azshara) carrying BFA.

In Dragonflight we had Alex, Wrathion, Kalecgos, Nozdormu, and Ebyssian carrying the expansion.

Compare that crop to the crop you mentioned, and you see the problem.

So, in Teriz's presence, we were doing ~75 posts per day between the same hours.

[Chickat]

Lmao what a trickster. Good eyes.

Yeah nvm lol....

[matijwow]

Wow he got allot right before we knew about the mount. That might be it.

Isn't his the oldest leak on ercarp's chart, too?

[Woggmer]

Blizz does not accept this a reasonable point. It's why Naga were canceled as a playable race, they can't wear pants. "But not everybody wants to wear pants!" Doesn't matter, most people want the option and blizzard isn't going to pull a FF14 and make a race that cant display one of the most prominent pieces of armor.

Troll feet got away with it for a long time, but they addressed it with Zandalari.

Even before Transmog, all you could do was hide your helmet and cape regardless of how you looked. You're bringing pants into this and equating it to helmets which has been a toggle since Classic.

Like I said, not everyone likes to wear helmets on their characters. So, if Sethrak don't need to wear helmets, why make them? Especially since players have been able to toggle the helmet option since the beginning.

As for the whole Naga/Pants thing.. that's a completely different matter.

[Leowyld]

Don't forget this beauty! @Uldaz https://x.com/ScarizardPlays/status/...508410370?s=20

Hey, that's my guildie! To be clear, though, I don't know anything. I'm just in a guild with a few devs, I'm not one. Heh.

[Nerdslime]

It is super weird still (to me) that Dracthyr cant wear gear when Worgen and Tauren can.

[Chickat]

Just wait for the shadowlands revamp expansion to be leaked and this thread hits 3k.

WoW: Return to the Shadows

Even I would quit then lmao.

[matijwow]

Has the leak from viking91 received any further analysis? Apparently this person accurately predicted dragonflight as well.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1-0-Titanforge

Based on his comments I think it's a prediction rather than a leak.

[Chickat]

One of the reasons why I don't believe these leaks is because there really isn't any features attached to them and sometimes they give random lore explanations for why some things are a certain way.

DF gave us dragon riding, profession revamp, talent revamp, and new way to engage with battle with empowerment, a new class in Evoker and a new support spec mid expansion.

What would you guys like to see as features in the next one?

Player housing, archeology revamp, and path of the titans a quality of life account wide progression system.

[Ferlion]

Do we have the numbers on this? I've always wondered how many people worked on WoW during its peak compared to now

I don't think we've actually ever been told.

Part of the problem is Blizzard actually reports this differently than most other places. You'll see things like "We had 500 people working on the game and then additional support staff"

Blizzard is similar, to my understanding but less consolidated. I.E. They have Teams.

Team 2 for WoW is generally 100-300 people as of 2018. They added another hundred or so with the studio they just purchased, for 400 people. But that isn't really all who touch the game. It's just the people focused on the game.

[Krakerz]

Wow he got allot right before we knew about the mount. That might be it.

Check the edit date, not the post date.

[Rathwell]

I don't think we've actually ever been told.

Part of the problem is Blizzard actually reports this differently than most other places. You'll see things like "We had 500 people working on the game and then additional support staff"

Blizzard is similar, to my understanding but less consolidated. I.E. They have Teams.

Team 2 for WoW is generally 100-300 people as of 2018. They added another hundred or so with the studio they just purchased, for 400 people. But that isn't really all who touch the game. It's just the people focused on the game.

That's considerably more than I had expected, honestly! But I guess there's quite a lot of different sub-teams, it's not like they have 300 people on the art team

[Chickat]

I mean they’re used to it, expecting a revamp since after Legion and to never learn is pretty much their own fault. Sad it is, but after the third time you just should know better than to still expect it.

Jokes on you. Ive been expecting one since after WoD.

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In my previous estimate of posts per day, we averaged about 70 pages per day.


Teriz's absence was announced at 1:06 AM last night (CET). At 1:08 CET tonight, Kavikor made this comment,






Teriz's post is the 2nd post on page 2025, while Kavikor's is the 2nd post on page 2076. It's therefore exactly 51 pages in between, and we are thereby short 19 pages per 24 hours in Teriz's absence.



Edit: Precisely 24 hours prior to Teriz announcing his departure, he posted this on page 1950,




So, in Teriz's presence, we were doing ~75 posts per day between the same hours.

He came back with receipts. He did the math.

[Rathwell]

Check the edit date, not the post date.

Seems he added the line about Khaz Algar, but the rest is still pretty solid

[Chickat]

Isn't his the oldest leak on ercarp's chart, too?

Yeah i saw that he edited it after i posted that it might be the one.

[matijwow]

Do we have the numbers on this? I've always wondered how many people worked on WoW during its peak compared to now

I wish we had some exdevs who could talk about what happened with production after Legion and explain what the original plans for some of these ideas and how they changed.

[Revamp Man]

SL did irreparable damage to the story and at this point I view expansions as just different fantasy themes to frame the gameplay experience, nothing is cohesive or thought out and it all disrespects what came before.

I want to disagree but after the new book...I can't care about lore anymore

[Catastrophy349]

No matter what happens for 11.0, I want a super cool capital city like Valdrakken. I'll miss the Dragon Isles a lot.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

It's not extremely difficult at all, the reason people are suspect at all instead of immediately accepting it as real is because of how not difficult it is.

I agree. As I said, it's extremely high-effort, not extremely difficult; I stopped at pretty difficult. While it may have been time-consuming to go through the trouble of altering those models, it's still something that one can acquire the means to do. I think the primary tell is the high level of reused textures and models. I don't know if there's a single wholly-original model in any of those images.

[Rathwell]

I wish we had some exdevs who could talk about what happened with production after Legion and explain what the original plans for some of these ideas and how they changed.

Honestly, those "behind the curtain" interviews are catnip to me. I also really love random old devs discussing their time working on WoW in vanilla and all the ideas and vague plans they had that never came to fruition