The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sebashtian]

Pretty positive this is an elaborate fake leak by the same person(s). Give it a few days and we'll see a "making of" post.

[Gloriandus]

Not sure about how the trademarks work, can they be "hidden" until a reveal date?

https://uspto.report/company/Blizzard-Entertainment-Inc

[Rathwell]

But is there anything tying them together at all, other than the fact that they both first got mention in Dragonflight? Could they be two completely separate continents/regions, like Pandaria and Northrend? Everyone seems to assume they're connected, but from what I can tell the only established connection between them is that they are both namedropped in the new Uldaman, but in separate books. The books also mention Uldorus and we know that is nowhere near Khaz Algar OR Avaloren

Perfectly possible that they're entirely separate locations. Although both have strong ties to the Titans/Keepers, so it depends on if Blizzard wants to do two continents where one is,

Avaloren, a location where Titan Keeper Odyn sent unsuccessful expeditions of Titan forces to pursue heretics

and the other is,

Khaz Algar, a location where a group of Earthen dwarves were sent by the Titan Keepers to investigate anomalies and subsequently started developing culture.


I think there's quite a lot of overlap between the two

[Leowyld]

But is there anything tying them together at all, other than the fact that they both first got mention in Dragonflight? Could they be two completely separate continents/regions, like Pandaria and Northrend? Everyone seems to assume they're connected, but from what I can tell the only established connection between them is that they are both namedropped in the new Uldaman, but in separate books. The books also mention Uldorus and we know that is nowhere near Khaz Algar OR Avaloren

Yes, we know Uldorus isn't near either because we can go there, look around, and see no Khaz Algar or Avaloren. (Uldorus is Tyrhold)

[matijwow]

If the photos of Avaloren are fake, I'm going all in on Avaloren being the moon. #TeamMoon

[Krakerz]

Yes, we know Uldorus isn't near either because we can go there, look around, and see no Khaz Algar or Avaloren. (Uldorus is Tyrhold)

Yes, that's what I'm saying - the books mention three locations - Uldorus, Khaz Algar, and Avaloren. Uldorus is its own thing not close to the other two, so it stands to reason same applies to Khaz Algar and Avaloren. Why mention three separate locations and have two of them be basically the same thing?

[Ferlion]

This will probably come out as a photo for ants but:




Both leaks share the same model ogre-dude. So there must either be collusion, faked by the same guy, or this shit is real.

If you find a higher res or better scaled version of the desert pic in the "leak" you can see the matching red marks on the chest.

It's been discussed.

The Website as some very obvious signs of AI, the artwork is not very great, the dwarf has weird fingers, the staff said dwarf is holding has tops and bottoms that don't line up, and the part of the website talking about new zones features a picture of a new race instead of the zone. Not even counting all the website spelling issues and format issues.

All reasons to think, just from the website, that these Avaloren screenshots are fake. Then add into the reused assets from the screenshots, and it becomes kind of a foregone conclusion.

That being said, who knows. It's more than possible it can be real .

[Catastrophy349]

Would be funny if the day BEFORE BlizzCon the "leaker" came out and said "Yeah, I made these."

[Leowyld]

Yes, that's what I'm saying - the books mention three locations - Uldorus, Khaz Algar, and Avaloren. Uldorus is its own thing not close to the other two, so it stands to reason same applies to Khaz Algar and Avaloren. Why mention three separate locations and have two of them be basically the same thing?

We don't have enough information, really. One could be the name of a larger area containing the other. Or they could even be the same place with different names, if the books were written at different points in history. All that is known is both are (probably) somewhere in Azeroth we haven't been yet and that Khaz Algar will play some role in the next expansion.

[Ferlion]

Would be funny if the day BEFORE BlizzCon the "leaker" came out and said "Yeah, I made these."

Let it happen like, 45 minutes before

[Swnem]

Would be funny if the day BEFORE BlizzCon the "leaker" came out and said "Yeah, I made these."

If it was a fake leaker making these he deserves a standing ovation.

[kavikor]

It's been discussed.

The Website as some very obvious signs of AI, the artwork is not very great, the dwarf has weird fingers, the staff said dwarf is holding has tops and bottoms that don't line up, and the part of the website talking about new zones features a picture of a new race instead of the zone. Not even counting all the website spelling issues and format issues.

All reasons to think, just from the website, that these Avaloren screenshots are fake. Then add into the reused assets from the screenshots, and it becomes kind of a foregone conclusion.

That being said, who knows. It's more than possible it can be real .

I always feel like comments like this are made even about the real leaks, not believing the quality is blizzard level or trying to debunk based on it not being good enough it recently happened with Evokers and Dragonflight but def happened with WoD and MoP too

[AvalorenFake]

Decided to come clean. The zone pics are fake.
imgur com/a/niMx8eW
I used AI to make them. Here's the original before I shrunk it to hide the mistakes.

[Nerdslime]

Decided to come clean. The zone pics are fake.
imgur com/a/niMx8eW
I used AI to make them. Here's the original before I shrunk it to hide the mistakes.

Did you choose now as the time to come clean just to spite the hopes that you'd hang on until the final seconds before Blizzcon?

[Ferlion]

I always feel like comments like this are made even about the real leaks, not believing the quality is blizzard level or trying to debunk based on it not being good enough it recently happened with Evokers and Dragonflight but def happened with WoD and MoP too

While you are right, the... we'll go with fine print... is a bit different between this case and the dracthyr.

Website and art and composition is much, much, much easier to break down than errors in models. The funniest thing about these leaks is they'd be actively more believable if they didn't include the picture of the Arr'gorwhatever they are called.

[Catastrophy349]

Would be funny if the day BEFORE BlizzCon the "leaker" came out and said "Yeah, I made these."

I literally just wrote this.

[Rathwell]

Decided to come clean. The zone pics are fake.
imgur com/a/niMx8eW
I used AI to make them. Here's the original before I shrunk it to hide the mistakes.

What if you're faking having faked the fakes and the fakes therefore are real though

[Catastrophy349]

What if you're faking having faked the fakes and the fakes therefore are real though

Lmfao

/10 char

[kavikor]

What if you're faking having faked the fakes and the fakes therefore are real though

thats exactly whats happening!

[Hitei]

Decided to come clean. The zone pics are fake.
imgur com/a/niMx8eW
I used AI to make them. Here's the original before I shrunk it to hide the mistakes.

This isn't proof at all. Anyone could run pictures through AI to warp it into looking more AI.