The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Wangming]

Think OP is confusing turning specs into support specs with giving existing classes support specs? Also, I didn't see anything about player-piloted boats.

Too bad. That part was at least interesting. So if i have to pick between these two, I pick that one.

[Leowyld]

New specs.

Well, now, that is curious. Because it not only contradicts the eerily similar leak I linked, it contradicts the only other leak that showed the Agg'ora exactly as you described, the infamous "website" leak, which said that existing specs were being changed to support.

[ZyntosAran]

Well, now, that is curious. Because it not only contradicts the eerily similar leak I linked, it contradicts the only other leak that showed the Agg'ora exactly as you described, the infamous "website" leak, which said that existing specs were being changed to support.

the facade is starting to break.

[matijwow]

I sort of imagine Metzen laying on a couch tossing and catching a baseball over and over while an intern sits next to him typing away at a computer

He has them '2cool4skool" vibes

I liked the story about when they were playtesting Gnomeregan on an early build and death was more permanent. Metzen died and just went to sit in the hallway for a while because it was so draining. I forget if Jon Staats or David Fried told that story.

[SoA]

Well, now, that is curious. Because it not only contradicts the eerily similar leak I linked, it contradicts the only other leak that showed the Agg'ora exactly as you described, the infamous "website" leak, which said that existing specs were being changed to support.

I mean, I could have misunderstood what I've been told. But also, I'd really fucking hope not. Combat was already renamed Outlaw, what are they going to do rename Outlaw to Bard?

[Well Done Steak]

Expansion Leak / WoW SoA / World of Warcraft - Storms of Avaloren

• Continent: Avaloren: Four zones – Khaz Algar, Agg’orand, The Everward, and Greyveil Glade (Stormy
snow-covered mountain region, rocky desert plains, a lush living jungle covering titan ruins with
unique moth-looking green dragons, and misty forest think of a more open space Grizzly Hills)
• The Algaren capital city is in Khaz Algar, think half above ground, half underground, more rocky and
less precisely carved looking Ironforge.
• Eight dungeons at launch (Four of which are 11.0 Season 1 Mythic+ dungeons).
• One raid at launch.
• One new battleground at launch.
• Dynamic flying carried through into Avaloren.
• No static flying at launch.
• New dynamic flying glyphs, one I’ve seen previewed is a really fast lightning boost.
• Level cap raised to 80.
• New support specialisation for Shaman at launch, and support specialisations in the works for
Demon Hunters and Rogues (assuming Bard).
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, Dracthyr will be able to play as: Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest,
Shaman, Mage, Warlock, Monk, Druid, and of course Evoker.
• Assuming in 10.2.7 or the pre-patch, every race will be able to play as Shaman and Druids.
• New race: The Algaren, are large (Orc sized) stone dwarves that come in various rocky colours and
styles.
• The Algaren starting area is a small island off the coast of Khaz Algar, here they come across the
Tyr’s guard, Horde, and Alliance for the first time. After the Alliance and Horde help the Algaren fight
against the hostile forces of Odyn some Algaren have decided to pledge allegiance to either the
Alliance/Horde much like the Dracthyr and Pandaren did.
• No new profession, but the Archaeology revamp might as well be.
• Pre-launch event includes helping the reformed Tyr’s guard fight the forces of Odyn (Travard has
received a unique model and plays our Khadgar, Magni, Bolvar role).
• We venture to Avaloren alongside the Tyr’s guard and Tyr himself in pursuit of Odyn.
• Odyn is in pursuit of Iridikron who is in pursuit of a “powerful titan artifact”. Odyn enraged by the 5
Dragonflight’s betrayal and the Horde/Alliance/Tyr’s guard’s choice to align with the Dragonflights
has turned him hostile towards us.
• The first portion of SoA will focus more on Odyn than Iridikron and the void.
• Xal’atath is back (and has also received a unique model).
• Silvermoon, Gilneas, and post-launch Lordaeron revamps with more to come.

These are the major things I can recall, feel free to ask any more specific questions, and if I can answer them I will.

Reposting to clarify: I forgot to put a bit about the Agg'ora, the Agg'ora are not the same as the Algaren. They are both stone races but the Agg'ora are much bigger than Orcs, I think a bit bigger than even Ogres? They are dusty colored and look more like a mix of Ogres, Kul'tiran, and Vrykrul.

Why the hell would dracs not be able to be paladins?? Just for that it's bs

[ercarp]

So, which one is it though. World of Warcraft 2, The Dark Continent? Or maybe New World.

I fess up... it's World of Warcraft: New World! That was the real leak all along! There's an Amazon-Blizzard merger coming, they'll announce it at BlizzCon.

[Rathwell]

I liked the story about when they were playtesting Gnomeregan on an early build and death was more permanent. Metzen died and just went to sit in the hallway for a while because it was so draining. I forget if Jon Staats or David Fried told that story.

Haven't heard that one before! Where can one go to find the "Tales from the Office"? I'd kill to just sit around and listen to them tell stories of office shit in early WoW

[Ferlion]

Warlock tank spec incoming. Bring back AoE Drain life.

[ercarp]

And no funny business. We've a sniper in position and we'll know if you try to make break for it.

Joke's on you, that's my body double!

[bruxx]

Why would they open up Druid for every race before Paladin, which takes significantly less work?

There will "never" be a more thematically apt moment for new populations being recruited into druidism than right after saving the emerald dream

[Teriz]

I hope this dudes SoA leak is fake cause it just sounds boring as shit :P

My thoughts exactly.

[Leowyld]

I mean, I could have misunderstood what I've been told. But also, I'd really fucking hope not. Combat was already renamed Outlaw, what are they going to do rename Outlaw to Bard?

Ah, and you seemed so certain until now. Well, maybe you misunderstood other things, too. I guess we will see next Friday.

[Sondrelk]

People on this forum care way more about this game's lore than the average WoW player, so one of the things fake leaks here mess up is that they focus way too much on the story of the expansion and put near zero effort on the actual gameplay features, usually just adding one or two regurgitated community talking points.

How many leaks have we had here that go "new support specs for Shaman and maybe DH or Rogue idk" followed by 8+ bullet points on the expansion's plot points, setting, antagonists, history of the new races, etc?

What always annoys me is that very few people consider the backstory of how they came about this info.
Many seem to go for a scattershot approach to leaks that would only make sense if they got a guided tour of several different branches of the development offices. Or talk about future plot points as if there was a giant blackboard they saw that laid it all out.

Real text leaks tend to be short, full of exciting stuff, but also lacking context in a way that makes some parts come across absurd. Which makes sense given leaks would presumably come from someone glancing at promotional material, or seeing the features slideshow without sound.

[22mage22]

will be funny to see reactions november 3. remember, there is no avaloren

[Leowyld]

will be funny to see reactions november 3. remember, there is no avaloren

Avaloren does *exist*, one way or the other. Whether it will be part of this coming expansion is what we will find out. By the way, what is your take on this SoA leaker?

[Rathwell]

will be funny to see reactions november 3. remember, there is no avaloren

I want you and SoA to duke it out in a 1-on-1, mano a mano, "winner-takes-all" Leaker's Brawl to determine once and for all who's telling the truth.

[22mage22]

Avaloren does *exist*, one way or the other. Whether it will be part of this coming expansion is what we will find out. By the way, what is your take on this SoA leaker?

leaks are simply faked based off the images. images are faked. but i give respect to the faker for not using AI

[Nokster10]

Why are these 2 larpers so desperate for attention

[Ferlion]

The real secret behind Avaloren is it's actually Tamriel, and now that Bethesda and Blizzard are owned by microsoft, we are going to get an epic MMO crossover event.