1. #39041
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    We just recently got a support spec added to the game, and it both works just fine and was quite well received.
    I think the bigger problem is how many support specs you need in the end in bigger groups. And then it’s the same competition as between healers / tanks, meaning you’re just stealing slots from other specs. As DPS that’s generally not a problem, but for all other roles it can be problematic. I mean sure, in the end you can just respec, but this problem shouldn’t be ignored or overlooked. And if you add more support specs, how do they differ from each other?
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  2. #39042
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonborn View Post
    The prospect of tall elemental dwarves being a new playable race is really wild. Almost all of the previous race and classes have either been part of the game for some time that people started asking for them to be playable, or fulfills a certain fantasy or archetype or aesthetic, and I don't think Algarian fits either of those. There probably have been asks for Earthens, but I don't think there's that much that they'd give it to us something that is similar but not quite.
    Playable new Tall elemental dwarves and some weird asspull of big dwarf looking ogres prospect is weird to me.

    They have good amount of races in their backbone that they could add, races that have been asked for years and years and if they once again go with something completely new then it's just very annoying and stupid in my opinion.

    They already fullfilled they quota to be "original" with Dracthyr as being something completely new, now it's time to add something that community asked about for years.
    In the end, it might not even be the races i personally have a lot of copium to appear like Ogres(, Mok'nathal or Vrykuls, but at least something long established instead of some asspull just to be "original" again.

    If some of the older races don't fit 1:1 with new expansion theme, then just make a quest for it like heritage armours and here you have it.
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  3. #39043
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    I think the bigger problem is how many support specs you need in the end in bigger groups. And then it’s the same competition as between healers / tanks, meaning you’re just stealing slots from other specs. As DPS that’s generally not a problem, but for all other roles it can be problematic. I mean sure, in the end you can just respec, but this problem shouldn’t be ignored or overlooked. And if you add more support specs, how do they differ from each other?
    We will have a much better idea after this tier. Evoker gets significant changes in 10.2 that should keep the scaling in check for raids. For M+ content, one support will always be max. Ideally they will want support to be interchangeable with other dps but imo if it rounds out to 2-3 support being ideal and then they add 3-4 more support specs, that will work ok. Ofc at some point, 20man for raids will start to feel small when it comes to spec competition (not because of support specs, because of total number of classes and specs in general)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    We just recently got a support spec added to the game, and it both works just fine and was quite well received.
    Whats the latest verison of Hype Train montage? Been while since I saw it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkorion1337 View Post
    Whats the latest verison of Hype Train montage? Been while since I saw it



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    needs even more metzen

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    The fact that the hype train is going to run over poor Team World Revamp when it reaches its destination is so sad.

  8. #39048
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    The fact that the hype train is going to run over poor Team World Revamp when it reaches its destination is so sad.
    I mean they’re used to it, expecting a revamp since after Legion and to never learn is pretty much their own fault. Sad it is, but after the third time you just should know better than to still expect it.
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  9. #39049
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    I mean they’re used to it, expecting a revamp since after Legion and to never learn is pretty much their own fault.
    I mean, the whole "We return from PlaceX and Azshara/the Legion/EnemyY took over Azeroth and destroyed it!" has been a thing since Warlords.

  10. #39050
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Both of these are wrong.

    There are a fair number of musicians who do actively do magic with their music. The other bard Russell , Signe, Zor'lok, Winslow, and Chi-Ji, as well as Kyrian and their Mawsworn fallen kin, the latter of who use music to debuff and the former who build all sorts of musical instruments to purify or attack their enemies (hence all the music/sound based spells: Echoing Reprimand, Divine Toll, Resonating Arrow).

    Nothing about evokers is based on existing game mechanics. This is hugely dishonest. First, the point of Evokers isn't combining magic, it's being able to wield multiple flights magic, their spells literally go from chromatic to focusing on a single color. Already this comparison isn't really accurate. Second, the dota character (I don't know why you'd bring this up when dota was just made up custom game shit) is Invoker. Evoker isn't someone who mixes magic outside of DotA (which again, is Invoker). It's just a general term for a spellcaster, e.g. the entire basic "do damage" school of D&D magic being Evocation.
    Kyrian as a whole are based around sounds and musics as most of the spells they use take their name from music theory

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    Kind of surprised the logo hasn't been leaked yet.

  12. #39052
    Quote Originally Posted by Holdodlig View Post
    Kyrian as a whole are based around sounds and musics as most of the spells they use take their name from music theory
    I've never heard of that.

    Looking at the few Kyrian NPCs, barely any of them use any spells with a musical reference, and most of the Covenant abilities are hardly musical.

    Divine Toll, maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    Kind of surprised the logo hasn't been leaked yet.
    Even if it does leak, people will just scream AI. Logos are even harder to believe nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    Kind of surprised the logo hasn't been leaked yet.
    I specifically made room on the Icebreaker deck for it!



  15. #39055
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    The fact that the hype train is going to run over poor Team World Revamp when it reaches its destination is so sad.
    There 100% will be a revamp

  16. #39056
    Quote Originally Posted by IronWasher View Post
    There 100% will be a revamp
    Yup, just like the expansion after Warlords will 100% be a revamp. Oh sorry, the one after Legion. Oh sorry, the one after BfA. Oh sorry, the one after Shadowlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronWasher View Post
    There 100% will be a revamp
    Team revamp gooooooo

    Also I am loling at myself when the avaloren "leak" turns out to be true xD
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  18. #39058
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Yup, just like the expansion after Warlords will 100% be a revamp. Oh sorry, the one after Legion. Oh sorry, the one after BfA. Oh sorry, the one after Shadowlands.
    You mean the expansions that lost subscribers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Yup, just like the expansion after Warlords will 100% be a revamp. Oh sorry, the one after Legion. Oh sorry, the one after BfA. Oh sorry, the one after Shadowlands.
    World revamp soon bros trust me, this is the xpac.

  20. #39060
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    You mean the expansions that lost subscribers?
    Compared to Cataclysm, the expansion that lost subscribers?

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