The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lady Atia]

*ahem*

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As smooth and deeply cartoony as a lot of models are this expansion, there is still quite a few that follow a more sharp and detailed art style.

Yeah, and all of these look terrible to me. I have the feeling they have one artist who is doing all of these and they prolly think they are super talented or something, instead of adhering to the classic wow style.

[Krakerz]

Look how different the character shadow is between the dwarf image and an ingame shot. The ingame shadow is fuzzier at the edges and is darker, while the dwarf shadow is literally just the sillhouette of the dwarf stretched on the floor and made transparent. And as I said, the shadow of the dwarf hand spike is behind him which makes no sense.|

Also that snow leopard on the right man, it's so goofy looking, like it was pasted in

[Sondrelk]

Now that I look at them more closely... I don't think they're even AI generated, I think the spikes were just painted on the model with Photoshop. This is like in the realm of something even I could do (which is to say it's not that difficult).

That's also possible.

Don't think you being able to do it is a stretch thoughm you are after all acclaimed game developer Chris Metzen.

[pacotaco]

Everyone can come to their own conclusion, but the hands on both frozen dwarf and the other ogre looking something dwarf theres something weird about the hands, one looks better than the other, that one thing is sus to me.

It looks like fist weapons over his hands to me, but who knows.

[matijwow]

If I had access to real stuff to leak, I think I'd take real pictures/screenshots and then use photoshop a little over them.

People would pick apart the photoshopped elements and dismiss the entire thing.

[Lady Atia]

If I had access to real stuff to leak, I think I'd take real pictures/screenshots and then use photoshop a little over them.

People would pick apart the photoshopped elements and dismiss the entire thing.

But why? Why taint your own legit leaks just to troll people?

[Polybius]

Everyone can come to their own conclusion, but the hands on both frozen dwarf and the other ogre looking something dwarf theres something weird about the hands, one looks better than the other, that one thing is sus to me.

It screams AI. The dreadlord images from Scaleface(?) have the same anomaly.

[Rathwell]

If I had access to a sandbox version of Dragonflight and some kind of world edit software, given enough time (like a few days), I could probably replicate the environments shown in the images since they seem to be mostly showing reused assets. People do these kinds of things a lot on servers-which-shall-not-be-named.

Creating the dwarf and dino models is the actual hard part and not something I would be able to do since you need to actually know how to make custom models. At best I would be able to paint over basic dwarf and dino models in Photoshop to make them look like they're custom models, but people would probably be able to tell.

TLDR: Pretty damn hard, but not impossible for someone with the right tools and skillset.

There's a nice easy guide on Youtube on how to modify WoW models using blender and Wowmodelviewer!

If I had access to real stuff to leak, I think I'd take real pictures/screenshots and then use photoshop a little over them.

People would pick apart the photoshopped elements and dismiss the entire thing.

You, my friend, are a monster.

[Izalla]

We can assume based off the four screenshots that it’s going to be another landmass full of undiscovered and undisturbed wilderness with very little civilisation, ergo Dragon Isles 2.0. Because otherwise, the screenshots would have shown us some unique architecture, cities, settlements, landmarks. They’re just bog standard out in the wild shots.

I'm a couple hours behind the thread right now but I just wanna say: I'm still leaning toward these being fake, BUT! We are assuming that someone leaking the game is trying to show us something good, assuming that only someone who likes WoW or is excited about engaging with the community is leaking things to hype people. But what if someone who hates WoW and wants to see people hate on Blizz? We have enough ex WoW junkies on here who have exactly that mindset. Someone like that gets ahold of material to leak? Knowing how this place behaves, someone could easily decide to pick the worst frames of the features trailer to leak for the exact purpose of stirring up this shit. All the naysaying and "Blizzard are shit, these images are boring, I hate this, gonna skip the announcement and the expac" would be exactly what they want.

I don't say that to claim the leak is real, or the person leaking it is doing that, I'm just pointing out that kind of malicious behaviour is totally within the realms of possibility. I still think it's more likely these screenshots have all been fake than that they are real, but we will see I guess. I'm gonna give Blizz the benefit of the doubt that their ability to create interesting and creative environments didn't get lost from one expansion to the next, and wait for Blizzcon to see their presentation.

[pacotaco]

Look how different the character shadow is between the dwarf image and an ingame shot. The ingame shadow is fuzzier at the edges and is darker, while the dwarf shadow is literally just the sillhouette of the dwarf stretched on the floor and made transparent. And as I said, the shadow of the dwarf hand spike is behind him which makes no sense.|

Also that snow leopard on the right man, it's so goofy looking, like it was pasted in

The shadows look different than current ones, but if you look at all other screenshots, all shadows look consistently like that.

[ercarp]

Don't think you being able to do it is a stretch thoughm you are after all acclaimed game developer Chris Metzen.

You bring up a good point.

[Rathwell]

Am I entirely misunderstanding the Blizzcon schedule, or is there only 2 hours of World of Warcraft retail at Blizzcon in total? 21:30-22:30 CET on opening day with the "What's Next" panel, then the 1 hour deep dive the next day?

Does this mean to say there aren't a bunch of separate panels like we've had at previous blizzcons?

[Marlamin]

Am I entirely misunderstanding the Blizzcon schedule, or is there only 2 hours of World of Warcraft retail at Blizzcon in total? 21:30-22:30 CET on opening day with the "What's Next" panel, then the 1 hour deep dive the next day?

Does this mean to say there aren't a bunch of separate panels like we've had at previous blizzcons?

Pretty much. They redid the panel format and only seem to be focusing on future content/announcement panels vs. the behind the scenes stuff and things we used to have.

[Rathwell]

Pretty much. They redid the panel format and only seem to be focusing on future content/announcement panels vs. the behind the scenes stuff and things we used to have.

That sure is disappointing, the art and cinematic deep dives were always the best ones!

[Krakerz]

The shadows look different than current ones, but if you look at all other screenshots, all shadows look consistently like that.

All other screenshots from the leak? Yeah, they all look like they were made in photoshop rather than being actual ingame shadows, that's my point.

[Nymrohd]

That sure is disappointing, the art and cinematic deep dives were always the best ones!

E-sports have increasingly taken more and more space at Blizzcon

[blaatschaap]

I'd rather have five more minutes of devs talking about a feature or whatever than ten hours of watching elite players do raids or dungeons, does nothing for me literally, couldn't give a shit if they paid me

[Nightshade711]

Look how different the character shadow is between the dwarf image and an ingame shot. The ingame shadow is fuzzier at the edges and is darker, while the dwarf shadow is literally just the sillhouette of the dwarf stretched on the floor and made transparent. And as I said, the shadow of the dwarf hand spike is behind him which makes no sense.|

Also that snow leopard on the right man, it's so goofy looking, like it was pasted in

When it comes to the difference in shadows…
Isn’t that just a thing w/ the ray traced shadows? Maybe they turned them on for the trailer/showcase.

[MCMLXXXII]

Am I entirely misunderstanding the Blizzcon schedule, or is there only 2 hours of World of Warcraft retail at Blizzcon in total? 21:30-22:30 CET on opening day with the "What's Next" panel, then the 1 hour deep dive the next day?

Does this mean to say there aren't a bunch of separate panels like we've had at previous blizzcons?

There's still a hour and a half break between the opening ceremony and the first What's Next hour.

[Rathwell]

E-sports have increasingly taken more and more space at Blizzcon

I must really not be representative of their target demographic then! I don't think I know anyone particularly into E-sports, but clearly those communities exist and are being catered to, but it's sobering to realize how divorced your echo chamber can be from the greater community