The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Rathwell]

I never really was on board with tinker as a class; but it's insane we got the complete asspull scalie evoker class before them

I assume Blizzard feels that the player base is less likely to be interested in a class tied to goblins and gnomes than to something dragon-related. Gnomes haven't exactly been the most popular through the game

[Leowyld]

I assume Blizzard feels that the player base is less likely to be interested in a class tied to goblins and gnomes than to something dragon-related. Gnomes haven't exactly been the most popular through the game

If we did get Tinker, it would be for all races. I practically guarantee it. They are moving in an all races/all classes direction, anyway, but we also have the fact that the last two new classes had race restrictions. We haven't had a proper class that at least most races (now all) can play since MoP.

[Baraden]

I assume Blizzard feels that the player base is less likely to be interested in a class tied to goblins and gnomes than to something dragon-related. Gnomes haven't exactly been the most popular through the game

Tinker makes sense for quite a few races though

Human
Gnomes
Draenei

Orcs
Goblins
Blood Elves

There's your races right there, everyone is happy

[allifeur]

It can work with massive rewamp of Azeroth theme.
Big roadmap like:
11.0 - rewamp of Kalimdor
11.1 - NE part
11.2 - Horde part
11.3 - sand part. Old gods and titan stuff
12.0 - EK
12.1-3 Parts of EK
13.0 Rewamp of Northrend.
13.1-3 - patches.

If this has to be done progressively, Eastern Kingdom is more likely to be reworked first : We already have most human models reworkked, and got a few teases of a re-taking of Gilneas. Moreovoer, the story of Dragonflight put a lot of focus on dwarves as well as blood elves (and nightborne by extension).

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Tinker makes sense for quite a few races though

Human
Gnomes
Draenei

Orcs
Goblins
Blood Elves

There's your races right there, everyone is happy

+ Mechagnomes, lightforged draenei, darkiron dwarves, mag'har orcs and nightborne.
It works for allied races too.

[Fahrad Wagner]

If this has to be done progressively, Eastern Kingdom is more likely to be reworked first : We already have most human models reworkked, and got a few teases of a re-taking of Gilneas. Moreovoer, the story of Dragonflight put a lot of focus on dwarves as well as blood elves (and nightborne by extension).

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+ Mechagnomes, lightforged draenei, darkiron dwarves, mag'har orcs and nightborne.
It works for allied races too.

Yeah agreed, it works for all of those

[Leowyld]

Tinker makes sense for quite a few races though

Human
Gnomes
Draenei

Orcs
Goblins
Blood Elves

There's your races right there, everyone is happy

I wouldn't be happy with that. And why not Worgen? Fantasy Victorian = Steampunk, it's a good fit for a tech class. I would want Vulpera, of course, and they share most of their skeleton with Goblins, but they are also very resourceful and clever problem solvers, that mindset makes a good inventor (and we have a vulpera literally named Tinkerin' Taji). But, as I said, I think it would be for all races, anyway. Any member of any race can learn about machines and technology and then use them.

[Nightshade711]

If we did get Tinker, it would be for all races. I practically guarantee it. They are moving in an all races/all classes direction, anyway, but we also have the fact that the last two new classes had race restrictions. We haven't had a proper class that at least most races (now all) can play since MoP.

This is probably what’s going to happen imo.
Though I’d see them limiting the “tinker” stuff to Gnomish/Goblin technology. It would probably be too much work to make unique racial technology for every race.

All races can already learn Gnomish/Goblin engineering so it’d make sense.

[Fahrad Wagner]

This is probably what’s going to happen imo.
Though I’d see them limiting the “tinker” stuff to Gnomish/Goblin technology. It would probably be too much work to make unique racial technology for every race.

All races can already learn Gnomish/Goblin engineering so it’d make sense.

Yeah, that would probably be the best approach tbf

[Teriz]

but we also have the fact that the last two new classes had race restrictions. We haven't had a proper class that at least most races (now all) can play since MoP.

And it's likely to go that route for a Tinker class as well. I can fully imagine that they'll restrict it only to small races (Goblin, Vulpera, Gnome, M.Gnome) in order to properly give a sense of scale to their mech suits. Additionally in order to make the class more appealing, they'll give each race it's own unique art assets (like Druids, Paladins, and Shaman all have unique art assets for each race).

[Catastrophy349]

We have to come together and keep this thread going! 2108 is NOT enough! More! More! How about these "leaks?"

[Leowyld]

This is probably what’s going to happen imo.
Though I’d see them limiting the “tinker” stuff to Gnomish/Goblin technology. It would probably be too much work to make unique racial technology for every race.

All races can already learn Gnomish/Goblin engineering so it’d make sense.

Yeah, it wouldn't have race specific stuff, really. And that's ok. That is a very good point, too. Any race can learn engineering, in game. That is a solid basis for everyone to be tinkers.

[seainma]

This is probably what’s going to happen imo.
Though I’d see them limiting the “tinker” stuff to Gnomish/Goblin technology. It would probably be too much work to make unique racial technology for every race.

All races can already learn Gnomish/Goblin engineering so it’d make sense.

Since we are restoring Tyr I could see them making Tinker a titan flavored class. Maybe he gives access to archives or a specific Titan forged that 'tinkers' with technology.

[Nightshade711]

And it's likely to go that route for a Tinker class as well. I can fully imagine that they'll restrict it only to small races (Goblin, Vulpera, Gnome, M.Gnome) in order to properly give a sense of scale to their mech suits. Additionally in order to make the class more appealing, they'll give each race it's own unique art assets (like Druids, Paladins, and Shaman all have unique art assets for each race).

They would probably make the non-short races mechs either work mechanically as a “transformation” (like the G.MO.D mount) or they’d just have some upgraded form of the claw packs that’d function the same as the mechs would.

[Teriz]

We have to come together and keep this thread going! 2108 is NOT enough! More! More! How about these "leaks?"

I gave you a leak, but you didn't want to talk about it.

[Rathwell]

If we did get Tinker, it would be for all races. I practically guarantee it. They are moving in an all races/all classes direction, anyway, but we also have the fact that the last two new classes had race restrictions. We haven't had a proper class that at least most races (now all) can play since MoP.

I don't disagree that it'd be available to all, I made a post earlier that I'd prefer it race-locked where I mentioned that this would of course be unfeasible. But even if available to all, I think it's still going to be less popular due to how it's still something associated with goblins and gnomes. Sort of like how hunters are available to tons of races, but you probably find that a disproportionate amount of people who play hunters probably play Elvish races due to the elven archer archetype

Even people who are not themselves roleplayers often go with fitting race/class combos (with the exception of min/maxing hardcore folk)

[Teriz]

They would probably make the non-short races mechs either work mechanically as a “transformation” (like the G.MO.D mount) or they’d just have some upgraded form of the claw packs that’d function the same as the mechs would.

Or they'll just restrict it to short races so each race gets a mech suit and each race gets a claw pack. Tall races won't be included.

BTW, the short races will likely also get claw packs in a Tinker class, since Goblins had claw packs in WC3. Additionally in WC3 the mech transformed from the claw pack.

[Baraden]

I wouldn't be happy with that. And why not Worgen? Fantasy Victorian = Steampunk, it's a good fit for a tech class. I would want Vulpera, of course, and they share most of their skeleton with Goblins, but they are also very resourceful and clever problem solvers, that mindset makes a good inventor (and we have a vulpera literally named Tinkerin' Taji). But, as I said, I think it would be for all races, anyway. Any member of any race can learn about machines and technology and then use them.

Worgen in WoW are based on victorian gothic themes, not really steampunk
Vulpera are nomadic scavengers, not exactly high tech


Personally I think every race should have every class though, even if it doesn't make sense - let people make their own headcanons to justify it

The moment they gave alliance shaman and horde paladin, they should have done this

[Rathwell]

Or they'll just restrict it to short races so each race gets a mech suit and each race gets a claw pack. Tall races won't be included.

BTW, the short races will likely also get claw packs in a Tinker class, since Goblins had claw packs in WC3. Additionally in WC3 the mech transformed from the claw pack.

Clawpacks for DPS spec, mech-suit for tank spec

[Catastrophy349]

I gave you a leak, but you didn't want to talk about it.

Soul of Azeroth?

[Baraden]

Or they'll just restrict it to short races so each race gets a mech suit and each race gets a claw pack.

BTW, the short races will likely also get claw packs in a Tinker class, since Goblins had claw packs in WC3. Additionally in WC3 the mech transformed from the claw pack.

Tinker has the opportunity to be an extremely unique class in WoW; imagine how much customisation a permanent mech could have

When out of combat, it could also function as the only mount option for the class etc

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Clawpacks for DPS spec, mech-suit for tank spec

Could also have a ranged caster spec using laser beams and missiles etc