The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Varodoc]

Demon Hunters are available only to Elves because Elves are popular, everyone loves Elves, so Blizzard could get away with it.

Dracthyr visage form is only Humans and Elves, because they are the most popular races by far. Very few people care about Dwarves, Tauren, Gnomes, or Goblins, so Blizzard did not even consider the idea of making Visage form of these races, even though the new Black Aspect is a Tauren in visage form.

Blizzard cares about the popular races. Gnomes and Goblins are unpopular and seen as a meme joke by most people. A new class will NEVER be restricted to these two races.

It's more likely that we will get another class restricted to Elves.

[Teriz]

You... do know that not every orc is a warrior or shaman, right? You do know that the chief engineers of the Horde during Vanilla were a mix of orcs and goblins, right?

Cool. Show me an orc designed and built mech.

[Nokster10]

Because everyone learning engineering isn’t lore based. Professions are an optional activity that your character can engage in. Further, nothing states that the profession is the basis of the hero character.

It's an optional profession for goblins too.

[Joszef Kiprich]

Since we were the ones that summoned him, is it also possible to banish it? And summon some more leaks?
Just asking...

[Calfredd]

Because everyone learning engineering isn’t lore based. Professions are an optional activity that your character can engage in. Further, nothing states that the profession is the basis of the hero character.

Orcs couldn't be mages until Cataclysm and even Dragon Soul's 4th boss was Hagara the Stormbinder who was one of the first orc mages. Someone picking up a wrench and studying technology can be lore based despite your gatekeeping.

[Teriz]

Blizzard cares about the popular races. Gnomes and Goblins are unpopular and seen as a meme joke by most people. A new class will NEVER be restricted to these two races.

Never said they would be. You go Goblin, Gnome, MGnome, and Vulpera.

[Arcinatoss]

Cool. Show me an orc designed and built mech.

[Teriz]

It's an optional profession for goblins too.

Yeah, but they also come from a civilization where riding around in battle mechs is common. Even their faction leaders do it (Gallywix and Gazlowe).

[Hitei]

Cool. Show me an orc designed and built mech.

Is there a vulpera mech I don't know about?

[Teriz]

That was designed by a Goblin (Helix Blackfuse).

[Jastall]

If tinkers ever are released then all races should be able to be one, would make no sense otherwise imo.

The thing that would put a hold on that is art assets more than anything. Much like every race being a Druid takes a long time to implement due to having to make proper shapeshifting forms for them, every race being a Tinker would probably require Blizzard making art assets that fit every race's aesthetic (be they simply tools or big mech suits or whatnot) and that would take a lot of work, unless they just make everyone use a generic aesthetic which would be lame when technology has so many possible looks in Warcraft.

Lore obviously won't stop anyone from being a Tinker now that Blizz has went out of their way to allow Draenei Warlocks and sundry other improbable combos.

[Nightshade711]

Yeah, but they also come from a civilization where riding around in battle mechs is common.

Same can be said with LFDs.

[Hitei]

Lore obviously won't stop anyone from being a Tinker now that Blizz has went out of their way to allow Draenei Warlocks and sundry other improbable combos.

Lore never stopped anyone from being a tinker because they're just graduated engineers and everyone can do engineering.

[Tyruin]

That was designed by a Goblin (Helix Blackfuse).

Blackfuse was Siege of Org that mechs from Hellfire so not designed by him. Could be a legion design tho, definitely pioleted by an orc

[Nightshade711]

The thing that would put a hold on that is art assets more than anything. Much like every race being a Druid takes a long time to implement due to having to make proper shapeshifting forms for them, every race being a Tinker would probably require Blizzard making art assets that fit every race's aesthetic (be they simply tools or big mech suits or whatnot) and that would take a lot of work, unless they just make everyone use a generic aesthetic which would be lame when technology has so many possible looks in Warcraft.

Lore obviously won't stop anyone from being a Tinker now that Blizz has went out of their way to allow Draenei Warlocks and sundry other improbable combos.

Honestly if blizzard didn’t want to do racial art assets they could very well get away with making all tinkers based on Gnome/Goblin tech given that’s what the engineering profession is split up into.

[Bwgmon]

That was designed by a Goblin (Helix Blackfuse).

So who designs the hypothetical Vulpera tinker mechs? Since they're scavengers and all, and would almost certainly be picking at goblin-designed and built mechs.

Orcs are disqualified because their designs are adapted from goblin designs, yet vulpera would not be?

[Teriz]

Using the goblin skeleton ≠ being goblins.
Unless that means Jinyu/Ankoan are actually Night Elves because they use the same skeleton.

So their past of scavenging in a desert somehow makes them able to be tinkers, but a race of people known for their technology/have been commonly seeing using mech suits can’t be tinkers?

Vulpera work with Goblin/Gnome tech, have the Goblin skeleton, and could easily utilize a junker tech style similar to a few OW characters.

The tech race you describe doesn’t work with the Tinker concept as displayed in multiple formats.

- - - Updated - - -

Blackfuse was Siege of Org that mechs from Hellfire so not designed by him. Could be a legion design tho, definitely pioleted by an orc

Nope, check the lore. Blackfuse designed that mech. It was built after his death.

[Nymrohd]

So what is the difference to just posting 50 pages of memes and just having a dozen people argue with teriz? the former is at least entertaining . . .

[kavikor]

Vulpera work with Goblin/Gnome tech, have the Goblin skeleton, and could easily utilize a junker tech style similar to a few OW characters.

The tech race you describe doesn’t work with the Tinker concept as displayed in multiple formats.

- - - Updated - - -



Nope, check the lore. Blackfuse designed that mech. It was built after his death.

Vulpera can use mechs made of bone, tendon, muscle and sinew from all their scavenger ways.

Maybe mounted onto some kind of electricity conducting vegetable... A pickle maybe?

[Nightshade711]

Vulpera work with Goblin/Gnome tech

So can every race in the game. Especially Dwarves are seen working with gnomish tech.

have the Goblin skeleton

Doesn’t mean they’re goblins or have any technological background.

and could easily utilize a junker tech style similar to a few OW characters.

So could any race. Hell, Mechagnomes have a better history with the junker tech style.

The tech race you describe doesn’t work with the Tinker concept as displayed in multiple formats.

I’m mean they’re just a reskinned tinker so…