The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[matijwow]

Has the leak from viking91 received any further analysis? Apparently this person accurately predicted dragonflight as well.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1-0-Titanforge

Based on his comments I think it's a prediction rather than a leak.

[Chickat]

One of the reasons why I don't believe these leaks is because there really isn't any features attached to them and sometimes they give random lore explanations for why some things are a certain way.

DF gave us dragon riding, profession revamp, talent revamp, and new way to engage with battle with empowerment, a new class in Evoker and a new support spec mid expansion.

What would you guys like to see as features in the next one?

Player housing, archeology revamp, and path of the titans a quality of life account wide progression system.

[Ferlion]

Do we have the numbers on this? I've always wondered how many people worked on WoW during its peak compared to now

I don't think we've actually ever been told.

Part of the problem is Blizzard actually reports this differently than most other places. You'll see things like "We had 500 people working on the game and then additional support staff"

Blizzard is similar, to my understanding but less consolidated. I.E. They have Teams.

Team 2 for WoW is generally 100-300 people as of 2018. They added another hundred or so with the studio they just purchased, for 400 people. But that isn't really all who touch the game. It's just the people focused on the game.

[Krakerz]

Wow he got allot right before we knew about the mount. That might be it.

Check the edit date, not the post date.

[Rathwell]

I don't think we've actually ever been told.

Part of the problem is Blizzard actually reports this differently than most other places. You'll see things like "We had 500 people working on the game and then additional support staff"

Blizzard is similar, to my understanding but less consolidated. I.E. They have Teams.

Team 2 for WoW is generally 100-300 people as of 2018. They added another hundred or so with the studio they just purchased, for 400 people. But that isn't really all who touch the game. It's just the people focused on the game.

That's considerably more than I had expected, honestly! But I guess there's quite a lot of different sub-teams, it's not like they have 300 people on the art team

[Chickat]

I mean they’re used to it, expecting a revamp since after Legion and to never learn is pretty much their own fault. Sad it is, but after the third time you just should know better than to still expect it.

Jokes on you. Ive been expecting one since after WoD.

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In my previous estimate of posts per day, we averaged about 70 pages per day.


Teriz's absence was announced at 1:06 AM last night (CET). At 1:08 CET tonight, Kavikor made this comment,






Teriz's post is the 2nd post on page 2025, while Kavikor's is the 2nd post on page 2076. It's therefore exactly 51 pages in between, and we are thereby short 19 pages per 24 hours in Teriz's absence.



Edit: Precisely 24 hours prior to Teriz announcing his departure, he posted this on page 1950,




So, in Teriz's presence, we were doing ~75 posts per day between the same hours.

He came back with receipts. He did the math.

[Rathwell]

Check the edit date, not the post date.

Seems he added the line about Khaz Algar, but the rest is still pretty solid

[Chickat]

Isn't his the oldest leak on ercarp's chart, too?

Yeah i saw that he edited it after i posted that it might be the one.

[matijwow]

Do we have the numbers on this? I've always wondered how many people worked on WoW during its peak compared to now

I wish we had some exdevs who could talk about what happened with production after Legion and explain what the original plans for some of these ideas and how they changed.

[Revamp Man]

SL did irreparable damage to the story and at this point I view expansions as just different fantasy themes to frame the gameplay experience, nothing is cohesive or thought out and it all disrespects what came before.

I want to disagree but after the new book...I can't care about lore anymore

[Catastrophy349]

No matter what happens for 11.0, I want a super cool capital city like Valdrakken. I'll miss the Dragon Isles a lot.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

It's not extremely difficult at all, the reason people are suspect at all instead of immediately accepting it as real is because of how not difficult it is.

I agree. As I said, it's extremely high-effort, not extremely difficult; I stopped at pretty difficult. While it may have been time-consuming to go through the trouble of altering those models, it's still something that one can acquire the means to do. I think the primary tell is the high level of reused textures and models. I don't know if there's a single wholly-original model in any of those images.

[Rathwell]

I wish we had some exdevs who could talk about what happened with production after Legion and explain what the original plans for some of these ideas and how they changed.

Honestly, those "behind the curtain" interviews are catnip to me. I also really love random old devs discussing their time working on WoW in vanilla and all the ideas and vague plans they had that never came to fruition

[AOL Instant Messenger]

And I'd counter not difficult at all. Just go to google and see what people have made for their private servers.

That much is fair; I assume that's precisely where and how these were made. I think it's still worth commending the effort with the fake models, but I'm still—as I said—very suspicious of it, and the reuse of assets very quickly tipped me off that something was amiss.

[Ferlion]

No matter what happens for 11.0, I want a super cool capital city like Valdrakken. I'll miss the Dragon Isles a lot.

Valdrakken is really cool. I kinda don't like everything being so close to everything though. I know I'm in the majority of this.

But I do like, you know, the idea of going to explore a city and stuff from place to place instead of just running across the street.

[Hitei]

No matter what happens for 11.0, I want a super cool capital city like Valdrakken. I'll miss the Dragon Isles a lot.

I want a better version of the MoP shrine idea.

Like some expansive ruins that a city gets built in, with each major patch furthering the progress, finishing buildings, etc.

[Rathwell]

He came back with receipts. He did the math.

I ran my numbers by the guys down in the lab, and everything points to this having a catastrophic effect on our page count by Blizzcon. At current estimates, it appears we may be as many as a hundred pages away from 2,500 by the time of the opening ceremony without Teriz, and that's a very conservative estimate.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I ran my numbers by the guys down in the lab, and everything points to this having a catastrophic effect on our page count by Blizzcon. At current estimates, it appears we may be as many as a hundred pages away from 2,500 by the time of the opening ceremony without Teriz, and that's a very conservative estimate.

I have to appreciate the effort in gathering us some real quantifiable data. However, I would not give up hope just yet. Theoretically, someone may broach the topic of Sylvanas, the faction war, etc. and cause a new sequence of pages-long digressions.

You are also discounting this:

World of Warcraft: Soul of Azeroth

See you guys on the 3rd.

being posted shortly after

Meh, I’m out this thread until expansion reveal. Ya’ll have fun. See you on the other side!

We clearly have precedent that Teriz may continuously return to remind us how little he will be engaging in this thread. If we hold out hope that he will return to continuously talk about how little he plans to talk, we may yet reach our desired figure.

[Ferlion]

I ran my numbers by the guys down in the lab, and everything points to this having a catastrophic effect on our page count by Blizzcon. At current estimates, it appears we may be as many as a hundred pages away from 2,500 by the time of the opening ceremony without Teriz, and that's a very conservative estimate.

It's ok. I'd rather have shorter threads, with less arguments, from people who care more.

[Nerdslime]

I ran my numbers by the guys down in the lab, and everything points to this having a catastrophic effect on our page count by Blizzcon. At current estimates, it appears we may be as many as a hundred pages away from 2,500 by the time of the opening ceremony without Teriz, and that's a very conservative estimate.

I can commit to posting once per day in furtherance of the goal.