The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Merryck]

If we aren't getting a 10.3, my ideal pace would be Alpha in January for a July Prepatch.

I think we're certainly looking at an August release.

[Chickat]

Oh yeah, not even Teriz-fueled discussions can disrupt the hype in the hours before the event.

I just hope all the people who end up disappointed say their peace and don't stick around too long. It gets kinda bummed out in here in the hours and days after with a vocal minority complaining.

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I wish an expansion would bring back multistrike. I miss the little mini-spells.

Crucify me but i miss hit. And MS was cool too.

Ive had a cool design for hit for years but no one ever likes the idea.

Hit past cap becomes chance to hit twice. basically multistrike. No more separation of yellow and white hits. All attacks and melee swings have the same chance to hit or miss. So once you got 8% hit any excess % would add 2% multistrike. So 15% hit would be 14% multistrike.

I also wish leech was a damage stat too.

Leech deals damage and heals you for half of the damage. Every leeched attack hits for for twice the % of your leech chance. So, if you have 10% leech, you have a 10% chance to leech for 20% extra damage, and then that heals you for half of what it leeched for.

So You have 10% leech. You hit for 1000 and it procs. You deal 200 leech damage and are healed for 100 health.

[keelr]

Can you add a poll to an existing thread? It really would be nice to see how many ppl believe the 4zones leak

There is a poll in the "11.0 zone pics?" thread. Go, vote, take your bets.

[Nymrohd]

Leech deals damage and heals you for half of the damage. Every attack has a % chance to leech for twice the % of your leech chance. So, if you have 10% leech, you have a 10% chance to leech for 20% extra damage, and then that heals you for half of what it leeched for.

So You have 10% leech. You hit for 1000 and it procs. You deal 200 leech damage and are healed for 100 health.

I think it would be easier to make it a healing version of versatility. Same scaling and damage increase but instead of reducing damage by 1%, it heals you by X%. Would make it much easier to balance and you are not adding yet another proc the poor server has to process.

[Chickat]

I think it would be easier to make it a healing version of versatility. Same scaling and damage increase but instead of reducing damage by 1%, it heals you by X%

That would work too. I just want stats to be more interesting. Did you dislike the hit idea btw?

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It should go without saying this is not a Tinker thread, nor a thread about a lengthy comparison of probable future classes. Let's keep that discussion to any of the several threads already devoted to it, and keep this thread as on-topic as possible as it concerns future patches and expansions.

Sorry didn't see this before i started bringing it up again. I will stop.

[Nymrohd]

That would work too. I just want stats to be more interesting. Did you dislike the hit idea btw?

Not at all, it is a solid idea.
I would have kept expertise to though I'd have made it a combat style mastery; it would be a stat for non-casters and it would give you a different bonus depending on whether you are DW, 2h or 1h/Shield.

[Chickat]

I think the issue with multistrike was that it was so many more procs for the system to process. But since then I think they have made many optimizations and they could handle multistrike now (I mean just look at the talents, it is proc bonanza)

I believe it was that and all the procs from Legion and BFA. Or was it removed by then? Dont remember.

I know BFA in particular was bad for the game because of all the azerite procs going off it made the zones unstable and laggy if more than 10 people were around.

[Wangming]

I like Return of the Titans.

In the immortal words of Jason Todd:

Titans are back bitcheeeeeeeeeeeeez Wooooooo!

[Chickat]

Maybe the true leak already happened

Maybe we wont get one this time. First time for everything.

[Wangming]

There is a poll in the "11.0 zone pics?" thread. Go, vote, take your bets.

I woted no. No is winning.

[Chickat]

In the immortal words of Jason Todd:

Titans are back bitcheeeeeeeeeeeeez Wooooooo!

I think it would be really cool to have Titan VS Titan war.

Amanthul and a few vs Eonar and a few plus her buddy Elune. Also Keepers would all pick a side. Cool idea for an expansion imo. Obviously we would win and the Titans would change their ideals in some ways. Still order aligned, but less above forcing their laws, and also respecting the sanctity of existing life as long as its not corrupted.

[huth]

Maybe we wont get one this time. First time for everything.

How many times have we had things leeked the same way anyway? My brain is telling me most leeks where rather different from one another, some not even growing in the ground.

[Nymrohd]

I believe it was that and all the procs from Legion and BFA. Or was it removed by then? Dont remember.

I know BFA in particular was bad for the game because of all the azerite procs going off it made the zones unstable and laggy if more than 10 people were around.

It is probably worse now with the new talent system but I think they have just significantly improved the server's ability to process things. Honestly BfA did go overboard especially with corruption. Those Twilight Devastations firing off from an entire raid could just rubberband everything.

[Chickat]

I woted no. No is winning.

Same. I do think there's about a 25% chance they are real btw. There are circumstances in which i could see them being real. Like they are behind on art time due to world revamp, or they are trying to do 1 year expansions again (shudders)

[Nymrohd]

I think it would be really cool to have Titan VS Titan war.

Amanthul and a few vs Eonar and a few plus her buddy Elune. Also Keepers would all pick a side. Cool idea for an expansion imo. Obviously we would win and the Titans would change their ideals in some ways. Still order aligned, but less above forcing their laws, and also respecting the sanctity of existing life as long as its not corrupted.

Or we would go to Zereth Ordos and reveal to them how Order manipulated them.

[Chickat]

It is probably worse now with the new talent system but I think they have just significantly improved the server's ability to process things. Honestly BfA did go overboard especially with corruption. Those Twilight Devastations firing off from an entire raid could just rubberband everything.

That and the heart powers, plus azerite armor procs, plus the complex trinkets etc. Kinda compounded to make it unplayable after a certain point. Seems to be a lot better these days. Not sure what they did behind the scenes though.

[Nyel]

I find it funny how people are talking about a Northrend revamp again after we’ve had these exact same discussions before Dragonflight was announced. Almost the same arguments on top of that.

[Chickat]

Or we would go to Zereth Ordos and reveal to them how Order manipulated them.

Id rather not go to another Zereth anytime soon. Unless its just for a raid. Maybe I will feel different in 2-4 years.

[Marlamin]

I find it funny how people are talking about a Northrend revamp again after we’ve had these exact same discussions before Dragonflight was announced. Almost the same arguments on top of that.

They weren't entirely wrong either, the titan and tuskarr kits both got revamped for Dragonflight.

I just hope all the people who end up disappointed say their peace and don't stick around too long. It gets kinda bummed out in here in the hours and days after with a vocal minority complaining.

It is MMO-C, if anything they'll stick around longer to complain.

[ChronoSul]

I think it would be really cool to have Titan VS Titan war.

Amanthul and a few vs Eonar and a few plus her buddy Elune. Also Keepers would all pick a side. Cool idea for an expansion imo. Obviously we would win and the Titans would change their ideals in some ways. Still order aligned, but less above forcing their laws, and also respecting the sanctity of existing life as long as its not corrupted.

Isnt that really just Legion? Since u know Azeroth is a Titan & Sargeras is A Titan. Not to mention the rest of the pantheon and Argus