The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Makorus]

Because their marketing for WoD was good and the timing with the movie was impeccable. The problems laid somewhere else and we all know that, don’t we? Imagine people being hyped for Avaloren: Yes, I’ve waited all these months to finally go to that unknown place we barely heard of and that was introduced just half a year ago. It‘s amazing!!!

That’s what I’m talking about. Something needs to be of interest to generate hype. And that interest needs to be rooted somewhere so it can grow. Hype works when it’s done correctly, we know that it didn’t work out for Dragonflight, so what’s the way forward?

Where is this "Oh no, we can't market this place because we haven't been to it before!" shit coming from?

You are essentially complaining that the expansion that isn't announced yet isn't gonna get the right "hype levels" based on... what?

[Chickat]

If the photos of Avaloren are fake, I'm going all in on Avaloren being the moon. #TeamMoon

Moon expansion would be incredibly hype.

[lanerios]

World of Warcraft: Soul of Azeroth

See you guys on the 3rd.

You have posted the following now:

"Next expansion has to do with this random elemental in Northrend! Trust me"
"Next expansion has to be in Undermine!!"
"Soul of Azeroth"
"Avaloren!!"
etc
etc

By this point you'll just say that you were right all along because you spouted so much insane theories that one of them might be right.

[Worldshaper]

OK I was watching Hayven Games' Azjol'Nerub video because it was posted in another thread and . . . the WIP version of Azjol Nerub had a world tree

Was Elun'ahir an OLD concept?

Huh. Maybe it got reworked into Andrassil / Vordrassil in Grizzly Hills. The one whose roots reached Yogg-Saron's prison and got corrupted.

I'm sure Metzen brings back a lot of old concepts he had from the turn of the century, though.

[Kiria]

I can see that. I do think they could still be improved. Some basic spells like an aoe spell should be baseline. But a talent that improves aoe dramatically. Definitely.

I absolutely agree We should have all our baseline abilities for our spec as some Classes feel VERY barebones right now.

[Chickat]

If it was a fake leaker making these he deserves a standing ovation.

It would be the most elaborate fake in wow history.

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I have this weird feeling that 22mage22 is actually the real one

Same. He's been pretty chill and believe me or not about the whole thing.

[MCMLXXXII]

Khaz Algar is Undermine. The earthen down there used to look like Dwarves but evolved to greedy green creatures, due to extreme exposure to Kazamite. After some recent incidents, especially those in the Motherlode, tinkers are forbidden and exterminated.

After complaining about the 4 zones expansions this expac will only have 1 zone and 1 3 boss raid. Dragonriding and normal flying are combined. In other words Dragonriding is reduced to normal flying speed and you can't hover. It wil be called World of Warcraft: MM
Maintenance Mode

/s

[Everything Nice]

Same. He's been pretty chill and believe me or not about the whole thing.

Which one was his? Wasn't that a generic Avaloren?

[Chickat]

If this is 11.0 "leak season," just wait for 12.0

Awfully presumptuous of you to assume we will have a 12.0. You know considering wow is in maintenance mode.

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november 3 will be a good day

Why are you so cutie patootiee. I don't know how i have a crush on a 20 post leaker but i do.

[Nymrohd]

What idea is that? Is there a leak about this? I think that I remember one but I am not sure.

No leaks whatsoever, just an idea we came up with a few pages ago.

[Chickat]

I bet the first person to admit they were DB Cooper wasn't lying either lol

Im dirty Dan.

No I'M dirty Dan.

[Rathwell]

Which one was his? Wasn't that a generic Avaloren?

This one:

new demon hunter spec is torment. dont look like support but not sure.
all race given shamans.
lands of conflicts are updated revamp like cata and textures
khaz algar new lands underground black stormy skybox and titan buildings opening hole in EK but go very deeper down to the center
new races in algar but customization for a lot of races. noticed no water races for algar. looks like might be a new patch for vashjir
new glyphs revamped new system like talent trees but in depth changes spells not power relating
small tree for races not power relating

I guess he means to say "No new races"?

It would be the most elaborate fake in wow history.

Can't wait for the behind-the-scenes!

[Chickat]

Legends

- Falstad Wildhammer
- Thrall
- (The green dragon lady in the emerald dream book)
- Odyn

World of Warcraft: Colonizers

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Yeah I really thought the weirdest part of Blizzcon 2023 was when Ion Hazzikoztas took the stage and just began reading everyone's Social Security Numbers aloud and passing a judgement of 1 through 10 based on his subjective opinion of how easy it was to say the number out loud.

It was also really bizarre when Metzen walked up afterwards and just started pointing at a blank wall yelling get ready for the Splash Mode and a poorly photoshopped image of Phil Spencer appeared edited to appear like he was fighting in the Dark Below Zone of Splashran.

I think you've had a little too much "herb" butter.

[Rathwell]

World of Warcraft: Colonizers

Somehow I feel like a Hemet Nesingwary story could be told there, then!

[Nyel]

Where is this "Oh no, we can't market this place because we haven't been to it before!" shit coming from?

You are essentially complaining that the expansion that isn't announced yet isn't gonna get the right "hype levels" based on... what?

I‘m not complaining, I’m arguing. Hype has to be rooted somewhere, as I said. Good luck generating hype for a place nobody has heard or knows of, especially when you’re coming out of your least-hyped and successful expansion yet that left everybody whelmed.

Why do you think was Legion such a hype coming after the - at that time - worst received expansion yet? Because it was the culmination of a story that was rooted deep within the Warcraft universe, had a decade-long build up and united / brought back iconic characters. Good luck achieving just 1/10 of that with something like Avaloren.

[Chickat]

I want a Fated Season that is everything. I want to be so disgustingly broken that the bosses we fight Run Away in Fear before we enter.

Run away little girl.

[Makorus]

I‘m not complaining, I’m arguing. Hype has to be rooted somewhere, as I said. Good luck generating hype for a place nobody has heard or knows of, especially when you’re coming out of your least-hyped and successful expansion yet that left everybody whelmed.

Why do you think was Legion such a hype coming after the - at that time - worst received expansion yet? Because it was the culmination of a story that was rooted deep within the Warcraft universe, had a decade-long build up and united / brought back iconic characters. Good luck achieving just 1/10 of that with something like Avaloren.

Legion was not hyped because it was set on the Broken Isles though. I think that was probably the least important bit about the success of Legion, especially because outside of the name, it has nothing to do with the pre-established Broken Isles.

You could rename the Broken Isles to Avaloren and Legion would still be a hyped expansion.

[Chickat]

So not that anyone cares but i somehow clawed my way from around number 50 by post count in this thread to 20 in under 2 weeks.

Praise be shitposting.

[Raetary]

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[Nymrohd]

Legion was hyped because Illidan, Demon Hunters, Artifacts.
But the thing is, we have no datamining to point to an expansion feature and neither is the story leading to one. What we have are a few possible locations so that's what we can focus. Avaloren might get its hype from some big feature we are not likely to consider because we think it is unlikely, like housing or class skins.

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Maybe add Khazm somewhere? Maybe in one of the underground icons.