The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Moth Preacher]

I was here for just several days: can someone explain, why do people(including leakers) cling to UwUloren? If it was first mentioned in DF, in a random codex: wouldn't it make sense that Blizzard will give it time to ripe and grow roots, rumors among playerbase? It's like what they do constantly, including Isle Expeditions, Whispers of Old Gods, etc

[Jaggler]

Right, but these were known of for a long time and speculated about for years, so people were generally aware of their existence and had all sorts of speculations about what these places could be about, which generates hype and expectations.

Sort of like Uldum in Vanilla. It didn't arrive until several expansions later, but since it had been named dropped years ago and there was a tiny quest chain about it in Vanilla, its release was a bigger deal than if it had just been casually mentioned 6 months prior to Cataclysm

Yeah, but in the end, that only helps with "hype" prior to the expansion. what counts in the end, is whether the stories and people there are exciting or not.

Don't get me wrong, i don't really care, whether we go to Avaloren, Undermine, Underground, Hollow Azeroth, the Moons or the Lifelands. I don't really mind either way.

[Teriz]

I was here for just several days: can someone explain, why do people(including leakers) cling to UwUloren? If it was first mentioned in DF, in a random codex: wouldn't it make sense that Blizzard will give it time to ripe and grow roots, rumors among playerbase? It's like what they do constantly, including Isle Expeditions, Whispers of Old Gods, etc

Because people don't want to accept the alternative; An underground expansion which makes a whole lot more sense on pretty much every level.

[Kiria]

Because people don't want to accept the alternative; An underground expansion which makes a whole lot more sense on pretty much every level.

It may make sense but it would also be the end of alot of people WoW careers as Zaralek was a complete disaster and I don't think Blizz can afford to lose too many more players.

[Hipnos14]

I find it very telling that most people are trying to discredit the main leak instead of being excited about it !_! Blizzard better have something more behind the curtain.

[MCMLXXXII]

Sill having a hard time not responding till Blizzcon. Addicted, I say.
Come on, need more leaks or a few days skipped!

[Ersula]

I find it very telling that most people are trying to discredit the main leak instead of being excited about it !_! Blizzard better have something more behind the curtain.

Because the leak looks extremely boring

[Teriz]

It may make sense but it would also be the end of alot of people WoW careers as Zaralek was a complete disaster and I don't think Blizz can afford to lose too many more players.

I had no issue with Zaralek, and I don't believe anyone would consider it a "disaster". It definitely isn't on the level of misfire that Vasj'hir was where people actively complained about it to the point where Blizzard never did such a zone ever again.

Even beyond that, if Blizzard was previewing the next expansion via Zaralek, there's no way they could reverse development by that point.

[Azalar]

Well, it looks like we've reawakened Teriz from his until Blizzcon slumber because we mentioned underground, Undermine and tinkers too much.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Because the leak looks extremely boring

That, and because it looks fake for a lot of reasons.

I'm not saying it's 100% fake, that would be presumptuous, but I do think it is

[Teriz]

Sill having a hard time not responding till Blizzcon. Addicted, I say.
Come on, need more leaks or a few days skipped!

I largely noped out due to the constant bickering about those obviously fake screenshots. Now that that has subsided, I decided to pop in for a moment and say hello.

Hello Hansworst.

[Nymrohd]

Right, so if Avaloren was namedropped in some random dialogue in TBC, without anything else about it, it would be okay?
What we knew about the Dragon Isles was 1.) there's probably dragons there and 2.) Wrathion is looking for it.

That's it lmao.

Mentioned in multiple places in the War of the Ancients trilogy and in Exploring Kalimdor and found in pretty much every video about cut Vanilla content.

[Nyel]

I largely noped out due to the constant bickering about those obviously fake screenshots. Now that that has subsided, I decided to pop in for a moment and say hello.

Hello Hansworst.

Don’t let them get you down, I enjoy you being here and it helps keeping the Avaloren bs in check.

[MCMLXXXII]

I largely noped out due to the constant bickering about those obviously fake screenshots. Now that that has subsided, I decided to pop in for a moment and say hello.

Hello Hansworst.

Hi Teriz!
Okay guys, we've summoned him, let get to 3000!

[Kiria]

I had no issue with Zaralek, and I don't believe anyone would consider it a "disaster". It definitely isn't on the level of misfire that Vasj'hir was where people actively complained about it to the point where Blizzard never did such a zone ever again.

Even beyond that, if Blizzard was previewing the next expansion via Zaralek, there's no way they could reverse development by that point.

From my perspective it was, my whole guild quit the game my friends list of 100 people have stopped playing ever since Zaralek was introduced and they show no interest in returning, so in my opinion it's a massive fail.

Also looking at the official forums there are alot of complaints about how the content is dead and no one can get what they need doing done, unhappy people complain and there's quite abit of it, you cannot say it's not been a disaster to me as I know you're being disingenuous with that response.

[Darkarath]

No leaks whatsoever, just an idea we came up with a few pages ago.

Took me a while but I found it. Highly unlikely though.

Blizzcon 2023:
Warcraft 3 Re-reforged
WoW Classic: Cataclysm
WoW: Legacy of the Titans
Revamped Northrend + 3 zones of Avaloren
Underground Azjol-Nerub zone.
Amirdrassil capital city.
Revamped Secondary Professions
Class agnostic "Torghast"
Many new race customizations for all except Dracthyr
All classes for all races except DH and Evoker
Account wide reputations
Account wide bank
Blood Mage, Fel DH, Void Priest (Support)
Earthbound Shaman (Tank)
Ambusher Rogue (Ranged DPS)
Vyranoth Betrayer, loyal to Iridikron and Xal'athat
Galakrond.
Khaz'goroth, Agrammar and Golganneth sent to re-order Azeroth with the help of the remaining Keepers.
Clash between Void, Order and us in the middle.
New premium subscription with tenders.

[Fahrad Wagner]

I'd 100% take an underground/Undermine expansion over some new OC continent. I mean, Avaloren could be cool, but I'd rather explore a place with some old lore attached to it

[Kiria]

That, and because it looks fake for a lot of reasons.

I'm not saying it's 100% fake, that would be presumptuous, but I do think it is

Exactly, to me the images are fake BUT deep down I have this fear something awful is going to happen next expansion I am not going to like.

[Teriz]

Well, it looks like we've reawakened Teriz from his until Blizzcon slumber because we mentioned underground, Undermine and tinkers too much.

Well I was also summoned by a few posters to help get the post count up, so I decided to help out.

As to the "Soul of Azeroth" leak I posted earlier, to those wondering via PMs, it was just a blurb I heard through the grapevine. I wouldn't take it as gospel, just something someone told me the other day. Could be real, most likely it's not.

If it is real, here's a view of the next expansion in reverse with Iridikron going in instead of Deathwing coming out;

[Marlamin]

I really hope there's going to be less leak tribalism (both ways) in the upcoming week and just more hype instead. Would be great if there's no additional official leaks either, just to enhance that surprise.