The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Fahrad Wagner]

You can cross me off that list of yours (1 person). It’s not that I’m “excited” or “happy” about the 4 images, I just love WoW and stride to be optimistic no matter what. I have found joy in EVERY WoW expansion and announcement (some more than others).

Same here! I'm still hoping for a WR, but whatever is announced I'll be excited (except if it's Void vs Light I think, that really doesn't speak to me)

[Holdodlig]

Do we have an official MMO Champion bingo card for Blizzcon and WoW ?

[Kiria]

Same here! I'm still hoping for a WR, but whatever is announced I'll be excited (except if it's Void vs Light I think, that really doesn't speak to me)

You take that back!!! ; ; WR or Riot!

To be honest the only place I have issues with is Underground, Tinker's fine give em, new races sure go ahead, but Underground, please don't do that to me, I just couldnt take it.

[Teriz]

I'd 100% take an underground/Undermine expansion over some new OC continent. I mean, Avaloren could be cool, but I'd rather explore a place with some old lore attached to it

Most players would. It also doesn't help that Avaloren by all accounts would be a retread of the current expansion. Something Blizzard also never does.

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From my perspective it was, my whole guild quit the game my friends list of 100 people have stopped playing ever since Zaralek was introduced and they show no interest in returning, so in my opinion it's a massive fail.

Also looking at the official forums there are alot of complaints about how the content is dead and no one can get what they need doing done, unhappy people complain and there's quite abit of it, you cannot say it's not been a disaster to me as I know you're being disingenuous with that response.

Well that's a complaint on the content, not the setting itself. From memory people were quite excited about Zaralek when it was first announced. Blizzard simply dropped the ball when it came to what you can do around Arberrus.

[Fahrad Wagner]

You take that back!!! ; ;

To be honest the only place I have issues with is Underground, Tinker's fine give em, new races sure go ahead, but Underground, please don't do that to me, I just couldnt take it.

If it's done right, I think it could be fantastic! Give me nerubian lore, crystal caverns, dwarven lore, heart of Azeroth, all of that! Give me a fake sky kind of thing, a mushroom forest, a mechagnome colony, lava-bending goblin engineers and a steampunk Undermine, I would LOVE that.

But if it's just Zaralek in 5 different colours, no thanks.

[Marlamin]

They could be trying to use this tech to allow people to travel from one Azeroth continent to another, it doesnt necessarily mean it would lead to Underground content would it?

Correct, I've messed with the system outside of Zaralek and there are some issues with actual terrain in the distance behaving funky during the transition if you're not in some sort of transitional cave, but if that issue is fixed (or not occurring in Blizzard's implementation) or if the transition is properly blocked through other means (e.g. thick mists, flying over sea) then they could pretty much do it between any type of continent, underground, above ground or high up in the sky.

[Varodoc]

Blizzard always varies with their expansion settings.

Having Avaloren after Dragon Isles is like having WoD Draenor after Outlands. Absolutely no one would enjoy that.

The leaked Avaloren is too similar to the Dragon Isles to generate any hype.

[Kiria]

Correct, I've messed with the system outside of Zaralek and there are some issues with actual terrain in the distance behaving funky during the transition if you're not in some sort of transitional cave, but if that issue is fixed (or not occurring in Blizzard's implementation) or if the transition is properly blocked through other means (e.g. thick mists, flying over sea) then they could pretty much do it on any type of continent, underground, above ground or high up in the sky.

That sounds fantastic, thank you for Clarifying and actually testing this stuff out, much appreciated

[Yunravel]

Well I think I know what marlamin discovered and its true that it could mean anything so its not really worth to post about it, could also be a developper joke

[Fahrad Wagner]

Correct, I've messed with the system outside of Zaralek and there are some issues with actual terrain in the distance behaving funky during the transition if you're not in some sort of transitional cave, but if that issue is fixed (or not occurring in Blizzard's implementation) or if the transition is properly blocked through other means (e.g. thick mists, flying over sea) then they could pretty much do it between any type of continent, underground, above ground or high up in the sky.

Ok that would be super cool

[Teriz]

You noped out after posting another weird take with your "Soul of azeroth". How many have you posted now that you believe are real?

Two. The Lightbound invasion and an Underground expansion. "Soul of Azeroth" relates to an Underground expansion.

As for the discussion a few pages ago. I do not buy into the whole "A famous character has to lead us into the expansion, otherwise it's not possible." I mean, the Pandaren were lorewise absolutely unknown. And suddenly we are supposed to believe that Chen was "super famous" in the lore? Yea.. no.

Uh Chen was one of the most popular WC characters coming out of WC3. Blizzard dropped easter eggs of Chen and Pandaria constantly from Vanilla through MoP. How do people not know this?

[Krakerz]

They have a hard engine limit of 64x64 (right now). Any expansion of existing continents will have to fit in there, Dragon Isles is pretty centered so plenty place for theoretical expansion in the red grid below (although that would be a first).

This is really cool - do you by any chance have an image of Kalimdor/Eastern Kingdoms with the grid?

[Marlamin]

This is really cool - do you by any chance have an image of Kalimdor/Eastern Kingdoms with the grid?

Although the website doesn't go beyond 10.0.2, you can view other maps here and you can toggle the grid by clicking the layer button on the top right and enabling the "ADT grid".

Well I think I know what marlamin discovered and its true that it could mean anything so its not really worth to post about it, could also be a developper joke

...I have no idea what you are talking about.

[Nymrohd]

They could be trying to use this tech to allow people to travel from one Azeroth continent to another, it doesnt necessarily mean it would lead to Underground content would it?

I think earlier on in the thread I have a route plan using Island Expedition maps and showing how you could travel between every single zone just by using a skybox illusion and the emptiness of the sea to allow for extended movement so you can move from map to map. Like Pandaria to Snowblossom Village to Molten Clay to Zandalar. Or Kalimdor to Skittering Deeps to Northrend or Gilneas to Crestfall to Kul Tiras.

[Yunravel]

...I have no idea what you are talking about.

Is that the hexedit thing you discovered yesterday ?

[Jaggler]

I agree, Marlamin is right not to reveal what they find as it will only turn people against them and eachother, the best resolve is the neutral one.



This leak season has been pretty horrible for that, but there's a reason is because people may feel Blizz are running out of content and scrambling for ideas to which could make or break the game.

Thanks for giving an example of the second kind of people i adressed in that post lol.

[Teriz]

Don’t let them get you down, I enjoy you being here and it helps keeping the Avaloren bs in check.

Well thank you Nyel. And yes, we definitely need to keep the Avaloren BS in check.

[tubbipack]

I've been thinking about this leak mentioning a bungie style roadmap that has multiple expansions announced at once, and the wording of Metzens return tweet, "how the world unfolds over the next few years…"

They've committed to a patch roadmap this expansion, maybe they're expanding upon that idea?

[Marlamin]

Is that the hexedit thing you discovered yesterday ?

Do you mean the keys for the encrypted content? I've talked about that pretty extensively throughout the entire thread, there's barely anything I'm holding back in the context of those outside of 10.2 campaign spoilers. There's nothing regarding 11.0 there that I haven't already talked about previously.

I've been thinking about this leak mentioning a bungie style roadmap that has multiple expansions announced at once, and the wording of Metzens return tweet, "how the world unfolds over the next few years…"

They've committed to a patch roadmap this expansion, maybe they're expanding upon that idea?

The roadmap has been a massive success, I don't believe anyone has had anything negative to say about it (how would they?), so I would not be surprised if they expanded on the idea. The only thing I think would be a possible improvement is to have it somehow integrated in-game as well, no clue how but I know not everyone cares to read official news/the highlighted stuff in the launcher. Maybe tease future content a bit more similar to how there were 'locked off' things back in Vanilla that were added/included later? Not sure.

[Rathwell]

I've been thinking about this leak mentioning a bungie style roadmap that has multiple expansions announced at once, and the wording of Metzens return tweet, "how the world unfolds over the next few years…"

They've committed to a patch roadmap this expansion, maybe they're expanding upon that idea?

Haven't they always had a roadmap though, 'cept internally? So, this is mostly a move towards more transparency?

It'd certainly be a welcome gesture of good faith with the fanbase, since people have often felt Blizzard doesn't communicate well