The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[pacotaco]

Not sure if a new class is so unthinkable as people are supposing. There's a lot on the line right now. The new expansion has to check a lot of boxes, people are expecting loads of exciting new features and stuff given that they have massively grown the wow team in the last year. I know I am at least

If anything, the most likely new feature in the next expansion is a new class.
- They need new features for selling expansions.
- It's easier to sell a new class than additional specs for existing classes.
- The worker resources previously spent on borrowed powers and additional systems is now used on actual class design (as seen in current expansion)
- They just added a spec with a new role, forcing them to add more specs with that role soon to make easier for them class balance and design.

[Darkarath]

Seems that we are talking about Tinkers.

I would love to have them. I do not think that they are coming in 11.0 though, I am putting my money on 3-4-5 new specs for existing classes.

Maaaaaybe we might get them if they are available as a "second" class to every character, but they should fit in the expansion theme, and I just do not see Tinkers working in any of the most possible expansions for 11.0.

[Cosmic Janitor]

Why not? They don't have to waste time on borrowed powers. They can spend that time now on new classes.

While I also doubt it, I hope that it would at least be a class without a shitty gimmik like a fugly race with broken transmog system and annoying mechanics...

[Teriz]

I mean there are plenty of engineering quests, like in Legion for example. So it’s clearly part of lore somewhere.

But it's not. Professions are optional content not attached to lore and don't directly effect your character. You can through WoW from level 1 to 70 and never do any professions, or have anything to do with professions.

Which still is a nonissue if that’s already a thing in the setting / gameplay.

The setting states plainly that Gnomes and Goblins are steeped in technology, not Elves.

[huth]

Kakapo exist in-game so I'm going to need a Kakapo race in 11.0, anything else will gravely disappoint me and I will leave these forums forever (but I'll actually be back in a day).

Well, i can be a Kakapo Druid... for 10 minutes. Provided i don't get into combat.

[ercarp]

Just a random post of this thread. It barely got any attention because it is obviously fake.

Thanks, I was able to find the original post. I just want to add them to the sheet, that's all.

Looks like that particular leak was posted twice within just a few hours of each other after the first post didn't get enough attention.

• First post by @northrend110
• Second post by @Juanen11 ~14 hours later

[Nymrohd]

Kakapo exist in-game so I'm going to need a Kakapo race in 11.0, anything else will gravely disappoint me and I will leave these forums forever (but I'll actually be back in a day).

Ok this race would look amazing

[pacotaco]

My guess is that they'll allow Dracthyr to be other classes after DF. Not sure what else we'll see. More race/class combos across the board, I guess? I will admit, I tend to like new races over classes as well.

Adding shaman, paladin and druid for all races (save dracthys) is almost 100% assured.

[Chickat]

I just realised something... most of the assets that were revamped for Hallow's End never made it to live servers. And by assets I mean these: https://www.wowhead.com/fr/news/new-...34976#comments

Is it because they're attached to 10.2? Does it mean we'll at least see updated assets for the Pilgrim's Bounty?

Its because they arent for Hallows Eve. They are for the upcoming Halloween town zone for 11.0.

[Marlamin]

Ok this race would look amazing

Now we're talking.

[Izalla]

It's funny how he spends so much time being told "no tinkers for you, your idea sucks and I hope you never get your proper racial fantasy class" to gatekeeping the hell out of the concept and telling anyone who wants to be a draenei or orc or whatever and still play a tech based class "no tinkers for you, your idea is bad and wrong and Blizzard will never give you your proper racial fantasy class!"

[Nymrohd]

Adding shaman, paladin and druid for all races (save dracthys) is almost 100% assured.

I mean it will happen but I think they will keep doing it patch by patch so they can pad that road map.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Yeah, they weren't backported to live so we won't see them until Hallows End 2024. We -might- for Pilgrim's Bounty if they've actually replaced all the model references yet as these are new assets, not guaranteed replacements for current ones.

I kept looking at many of those models IG thinking "damn those don't look good for updated models"... now I understand why haha! Thanks Marla!

[pacotaco]

We could always get new specs.

Which i think is vastly more likely to happen than a new class.

I would say the opposite:
- A new class sells better than adding new specs to existing classes.
- Adding new specs force the design into the existing framework of the class (theme and gameplay)
- A new class is a clean canvas to try new mechanics (like evoker with the empowered and support abilities)

[Nokster10]

What happened to Teriz not talking until blizzcon?

[Baraden]

It's funny how he spends so much time being told "no tinkers for you, your idea sucks and I hope you never get your proper racial fantasy class" to gatekeeping the hell out of the concept and telling anyone who wants to be a draenei or orc or whatever and still play a tech based class "no tinkers for you, your idea is bad and wrong and Blizzard will never give you your proper racial fantasy class!"

What are the chances Blizz eventually added tinkers and he'd actually be happy about what they added

[ercarp]

Seems that we are talking about Tinkers.

Whenever I come to this thread and see there are 10-20 new pages, I play a game I like to call "Did A New Leak Drop Or Did People Get Triggered By Teriz Again Because They Can't Handle Someone Having An Opinion Different From Theirs?"

It's a bit of a long title, but... I'm working on it.

[Chickat]

Oh look. Teriz is back. We may make our goal after all.

[Darkarath]

Thanks, I was able to find the original post. I just want to add them to the sheet, that's all.

Looks like that particular leak was posted twice within just a few hours of each other after the first post didn't get enough attention.

• First post by @northrend110
• Second post by @Juanen11 ~14 hours later

Interesting. That makes it even more fake (sadly).

I just realised something... most of the assets that were revamped for Hallow's End never made it to live servers. And by assets I mean these: https://www.wowhead.com/fr/news/new-...34976#comments

Is it because they're attached to 10.2? Does it mean we'll at least see updated assets for the Pilgrim's Bounty?

Maaaaaybe they did not use them because they are going to reveal the revamp for 11.0 and they are going to report how they have been updating assets and how they are going to keep doing it by waves oftenly from 10.2.5 on

[Teriz]

It's funny how he spends so much time being told "no tinkers for you, your idea sucks and I hope you never get your proper racial fantasy class" to gatekeeping the hell out of the concept and telling anyone who wants to be a draenei or orc or whatever and still play a tech based class "no tinkers for you, your idea is bad and wrong and Blizzard will never give you your proper racial fantasy class!"

Merely tamping down people's expectations for a Tinker class for every race. Nothing more, nothing less.

With that said, wonderful discussion everyone. Feel free to have the last word.