The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

WTF is going on.

Drama, mama

[Neoplanet]

algarstorm is trying to discredit me by lying. i just wont post anymore.

you can tell something more you know but nobody asked , to help you get credibility

[Algarstorms]

algarstorm is trying to discredit me by lying. i just wont post anymore.

I at least admitted I am full of shit.

[MCMLXXXII]

22mage just started another thread with another account. Come on guys, it was obviously fake from the get go.

[Teriz]

It's all been asspulls since Cataclysm as far as I can see. Pandaria going from a small island to a big continent, Zandalar and KT doing the same. Up until WoD all we knew about old Draenor was a little penciled up map that didn't mention spires, gorgrond, highmaul, talador.
You can use the way back machine on the wiki and see up until 2020, nothing about the Dragon isles aside from a brief mention from a dev, and a reveal that it was a scrapped potential endgame raid for alpha WoW.

This is entirely revisionist history. Pandaria was a continent back in WC3, being referred to as the Pandaren Empire;

Hailing from the secretive Pandaren Empire, the mighty brewmasters travel the world in search of exotic ales and the finest brewed spirits. These affable warriors rarely seek out danger or trouble, preferring instead to spend their time concocting new and tasty beverages for any brave enough to imbibe them. However, if attacked, the laughing brewmasters bring all of their pandaren agility and ferocity to bear! They are peerless warriors and world class drinkers all in one!

http://classic.battle.net/war3/neutr...ewmaster.shtml

Even beyond that, at least we've heard of Pandaria long before (8 years) before it became an expansion location.

Same with KT and Zandalar. We had major lore characters from those locations. We knew Admiral and Jaina Proudmoore from KT, and King Rastakhan from Zandalar. We knew that KT was a naval power, and we knew that the Zandalari were dinomancers and physiologically different than other trolls.

Who do we know from Avaloren? Nobody.

So basically, dragon isles had as much in-game info about it as Avaloren does now. That may sound like I'm making that up, but it's true. Dragon Isles were 100% just kept alive by mild interest from the most diehard lore fans for 2 decades.
Shadowlands? Do we need to say more?

Again, we knew characters from the dragon isles. Through the dragons that we've known and fought with for years, we knew the dragon isles. So when they took us there, we kind of already knew what to expect, and they guided us through the aspects that we didn't. Wrathion, the young dragon we've watched grow from a hatchling to a whelp was assuredly going to be there to guide us.

Again what in-game info do we have on Avaloren in comparison? Who is going to escort us there? Who's going to familiarize with this place?

Condition yourself now Teriz. The game is getting freaking old, among the oldest still being actively worked on. They spend more time writing up the settings and locations for each expansion... than Metzen, Didier and the rest of the original Blizz tabletop nerds spent writing the entire planet of Azeroth.

To add to that, for all we know, Avaloren could have been an idea that Metzen had for years that he just never talked about. If Metzen stood up on stage at Blizzcon and said "THIS CONTINENT. MAN, WE BEEN DYING TO SHOW YOU THIS SINCE WRATH" people would lose their minds. None of this matters.

That's all well and good, but that's not how Blizzard typically rolls out expansion locations. Typically Blizzard lets things cook a bit before pushing us to the next location. Giving us a little taste here or a little taste there and then a few years later we get the full course. Right now, Avaloren sounds half-baked, like a rehash of Dragon Isles, and if that's the next expansion, that's rather troubling.

[Syphin33]

my leak is fake. im sorry

What is wrong with people like you? Seriously?

Do you like crave attention on the internet? Weird behavior from a adult man

[Ferlion]

I do have to thank you for all this.

We went from the absolute worst leak season ever, to this mastercrafted gourmet meal.

[KyleEverett]

Thank you, I pictures a dwarf mixed with a gronn, based on that website image of the ogre dwarf.
Also Bellular said my leak looks legit. Sorry bro.

If you were the source of the 4 images, do you have the originals?

[Calfredd]

22mage just started another thread with another account. Come on guys, it was obviously fake from the get go.

11utopia11?

[Algarstorms]

If you were the source of the 4 images, do you have the originals?

Not on this computer,

[kavikor]

If you were the source of the 4 images, do you have the originals?

I think he said he based his leak around those images, considering he lifted the zone names and stuff.

[22mage22]

you can tell something more you know but nobody asked , to help you get credibility

check my posts. i post a full amount of what i see. sorry but i dont wanna post if people lying on me every post i make.

[Leowyld]

There was another leaker that copied Algarstorms nearly verbatim. I imagine that was the same individual (which I kinda suspected, anyway)

[Raetary]

WTF is going on.

The sweet sweet pleasures of internet drama.

Anyway, here is his previous summary:

new demon hunter spec is torment. dont look like support but not sure.
all race given shamans.
lands of conflicts are updated revamp like cata and textures
khaz algar new lands underground black stormy skybox and titan buildings opening hole in EK but go very deeper down to the center
new races in algar but customization for a lot of races. noticed no water races for algar. looks like might be a new patch for vashjir
new glyphs revamped new system like talent trees but in depth changes spells not power relating
small tree for races not power relating

Weeeeeell.
Honestly, a DH spec based Allari the Souleater and/or Argus' Scythe visuals is something i can totally see Blizzard pull out.

A dark underground storm could explain why the datamined Gryphon texture is so dark and void-ish.

Though i have no idea what "lands of conflict" is supposed to be.
Like, is it the expansion title? Or just their internal/marketed name for the revamp?

I'm assuming the glyph thing is meant to be spell customization.

And... a racial? talent tree that is apparently not power related.
Idk what that could mean or entail.

[Reynauld]

I am in this thread literally since friday evening. Just chilling, listening to audiobooks, F5ing like I was paid for it. What a coincidence that Algarstorms and 22mage22 start posting at the exact same time after missing for days. Actual larper, I hope for legit leaks starting tomorrow, very tired of some attention muncher jerking everybodys chain.

[ercarp]

i think there is confusion. i post multiple to get activity in the threads. it was lands of conflict. someone post after me and i quoted with smiles.

So you're saying the expansion is called World of Warcraft: Lands of Conflict...

That has zero marketability, I'm sorry to say. It sounds cool to us terminally online WoW nerds, but the average player isn't going to know what the hell it's referring to (even if we know it refers to EK).

"Lands of conflict, you say? Isn't that... every land?"

[MCMLXXXII]

11utopia11?

That's the one. Happened just after he was accused in this thread. Or just a coincidence?

[kavikor]

Not on this computer,

oh well now I'm confused

[Algarstorms]

check my posts. i post a full amount of what i see. sorry but i dont wanna post if people lying on me every post i make.

Let's just come clean, me. You and I are the same.

[pacotaco]