The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Moth Preacher]

Agg'ora are Djaradin size apparently, or Ogre sized minimum, they wouldn't be a playable race. I can buy Algarian Earthen as a neutral, but Alliance would rightfully rage if they had 3 flavors of Dwarf.

2 flavours of orcs
2 flavours of tauren
2 flavours of trolls
2 flavours of elves (a stretch)

[blaatschaap]

Fate of Avaloren? More like Fake of Avaloren

[Chickat]

You can't have enough okapi's and meerkats. New humanoid meerkat race, yes please.

I mean, look at this fellow:

A zone based on an African savannah would be sick. Barrens 2.0.

I want Savannah, tropical jungle, dessert, mountains, and 1 underground zone in a future expansion. Not necessarily Avaloren though. Id rather avaloren be based on Camelot.

[PotHockets]

People will torch Blizz HQ if they give Horde a fucking Ogre-like OCshit race instead of Ogres or Mok'nathal. Are they that fucking stupid?

Call me crazy but if people are willing to torch a building over that then Blizz is doing the right thing by ignoring them.

[Vakir]

I'm just remembering the leak of Velen's art on the wall of an E3 booth before the Draenei reveal. That far back, probably the oldest leak I can remember other than the Blood Elf stuff in a mag (which was known to happen anyway because of Adon in EPL).

Nobody had any idea of the context behind the Draenei but it was this Eredar-looking weird asshole with a huge staff. Absolute meltdown. Good times.

Call me crazy but if people are willing to torch a building over that then Blizz is doing the right thing by ignoring them.

If Warlords didn't cause people to torch them, or even the allegations that came out more recently, nothing will, especially given how much smaller the pool of fervent players are now vs. casual ones compared to back in the day.

[Raetary]

Would love housing as an evergreen content source, but this is the attitude that let them get away with Shadowlands "but with new race customization."

Malibu Stacy with a New Hat vibes.

I don't see how those things are equivalent.

Character customization isn't playable, repeatable content.
Player housing is, and it would make me add another 1k hours to my playtime counter just on that feature alone.

[Nymrohd]

People will torch Blizz HQ if they give Horde a fucking Ogre-like OCshit race instead of Ogres or Mok'nathal. Are they that fucking stupid?

diaper gnomes, light draenei instead of broken, void elves instead of high elves and the HQs are still standing. I guess Horde fans might be less stable?

[Cheezits]

Agg'ora are Djaradin size apparently, or Ogre sized minimum, they wouldn't be a playable race. I can buy Algarian Earthen as a neutral, but Alliance would rightfully rage if they had 3 flavors of Dwarf.

They used the Kul Tiran rig in the leaked image, so they would be that size or larger.

[ercarp]

People will torch Blizz HQ if they give Horde a fucking Ogre-like OCshit race instead of Ogres or Mok'nathal. Are they that fucking stupid?

Unfortunately there seems to be somewhat of an established pattern for this. Blizzard never wants to give the players exactly what they want, they always seem compelled to give it their own "spin".

You want high elves? Too bad, best we can do is purple emo elves.

You want the mechagnomes from Ulduar? Sorry, have diaper gnomes.

Oh, you think the Broken are finally gonna join the Alliance? Nah, light bulb draenei it is.

[kavikor]

You know I hope the player housing leak is real cause i really want player housing and new races lol

of course i set my bar pretty low tho

[Chickat]

My Hope Cinematic to be emotional and Hyped like Battle For Azeroth, Shadowlands,

Dragonflight was most lame weak cinematic both in history of Warcraft.

It was a good cinematic, but boring and not hype material. Something can be good and not hype at the same time.

[Cheezits]

Void elves. Mechagnomes. Yes they are if its real

Unfortunately there seems to be somewhat of an established pattern for this. Blizzard never wants to give the players exactly what they want, they always seem compelled to give it their own "spin".

You want high elves? Too bad, best we can do is purple emo elves.

You want the mechagnomes from Ulduar? Sorry, have diaper gnomes.

Oh, you think the Broken are finally gonna join the Alliance? Nah, light bulb draenei it is.

Again, post-BFA? Why OCshit races? Especially after they teased Broken.

I guess they may argue that Algarians are Earthen plus magic, but Aggorand is a tough sell.

[Polybius]

People will torch Blizz HQ if they give Horde a fucking Ogre-like OCshit race instead of Ogres or Mok'nathal. Are they that fucking stupid?

They did a bad with mechagnome. But they've experienced fires back in 2020 so they'll just work from home.

[NikolaiShade]

I don't see how those things are equivalent.

Character customization isn't playable, repeatable content.
Player housing is, and it would make me add another 1k hours to my playtime counter just on that feature alone.

I lost years furnishing a house in skyrim, I can relate to you

Edit: know what's my problem even with transmog? when I find a set or a house arrangement I like then even if I try something else, after some time I return to the original setting. even if in some regards the new one is better

[Vakir]

I don't see how those things are equivalent.

Character customization isn't playable, repeatable content.
Player housing is, and it would make me add another 1k hours to my playtime counter just on that feature alone.

It's definitely not 1:1, I also care about housing far more than that - I just really don't want it to be an instant forgive if the "meat" of the rest is weak.

But it's not gonna matter anyway.

It was a good cinematic, but boring and not hype material. Something can be good and not hype at the same time.

Yeah. It told the story it was supposed to, but the actual "wooo, exciting" stuff was the launch trailer. Arguably true for the Shadowlands stuff as well. Blizzard's storytelling has really changed relative to their openings.

Mind, people called Wrath's intro boring as shit when it first came out, too. They were wrong, but.

[Ebonn]

Honestly, if they add this, i'd gladly overlook Avaloren being just another island adventure.

I’m sorry but if you hate wow and expansions this much, why not quit? You don’t know anything about the expansion, but you’re assuming it’s “just another” anything. And I’m sorry, but essentially every expansion is “just another island adventure” it’s how most expansions to most games work lol. They add more lands and new stories, that’s the very basic idea of expanding on an existing game world.

Outland? Just another island, in space. Draenor? Just another island, in the past. Northrend? Just another island, in the north. Cataclysm? Just another small series of islands added in various places. Every patch zone? Just another island.

I get your feelings and I’m not trying to attack you here <3 I’m just saying that every expansion is “just another” zone and story, so if you’re not enjoying them anymore…

[Ferlion]

My dream cinematic is just human paladins killing the Forsaken en masse.

That would be kinda hype.

[Murlocos]

Again, post-BFA? Why OCshit races? Especially after they teased Broken.

I guess they may argue that Algarians are Earthen plus magic, but Aggorand is a tough sell.

Honestly, I wonder how much the Broken tease was actually meant to be anything substantial, or if it was just a quest designer tossing it in for fun with no real plans to follow it up knowing how their narrative design goes.

DF's had so many teasers and possible plot hooks for future content set up it feels like the actual expansion story is a footnote. Uncanny resemblance to how BfA went minus having a third major patch (that ended up feeling like a rushed conclusion to another plot point so they could jump to what they really wanted to write in 9.0).

[Chickat]

Speculation thread for BFA was the most fun/enjoyable. This time its 1800 pages of off-topic back-and-forth arguments. It’s sad this forum doesn’t have moderators.

Do you know how many pages we usually average before blizzcon? Im interested to see if its similar every time or if engagement on this site has fallen ofer time with the popularity of wow.

[Zelk]

Feel like any title with Avaloren in it is unlikely to be real purely because they all sound really clunky.