The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Neoplanet]

also , can the final tyr questline be used to tell us what in the future ? because you now , tyr probably know something we need him alive to know

[flan1337]

It’s been a while have I missed anything?

[Samin]

As far as I’m aware, the only reason to think it’s NOT a dragon is the mysterious gryphon texture, am I correct? Cause personally I still hope/believe it could be a green/storm dragon-esque mount lol

The Algarian part. The not-dwarves of Khaz Algar seem to show some surprising parallel evolution to the dwarves we know. That could mean an affinity for gryphons or something gryphon-like. This connection is further reinforced by a datamined trading post transmog "Stormrider's Stormhammer" - which have no reference to Algarian but reinforce the connection of "Stormrider" with hammer swinging dwarven gryphon riders.

[Dismayxz]

I'm doing my part. I remember seeing this fan-art years ago and have been waiting for the mount ever since:




https://www.artstation.com/artwork/n1qyE

What name would we even give that? The Barrens Giraffe sounds boring, but Barrens something?

[Azalar]

What name would we even give that? The Barrens Giraffe sounds boring, but Barrens something?

Barrens Wargrazer xD

[Leowyld]

It’s been a while have I missed anything?

The leaker Algarstorms is a fake leaker. The copycat SoA is fake, then, by proxy. And 22mage22 is possibly an alt account of Algarstorms, at least according to Algarstorms.

[Dismayxz]

Barrens Wargrazer xD

You know what, sold.

[matijwow]

also , can the final tyr questline be used to tell us what in the future ? because you now , tyr probably know something we need him alive to know

The current writers think that you create a sympathetic villain by making the original good guys turn out to be bad guys. From what I've seen on the PTR, Danuser's anti-Titan crusade continues.

[Catastrophy349]

Man, this channel started fizzing out. Went from a new page in nearly minutes to "slow grinding." Leakers, assemble!

[bruxx]

Barrens Wargrazer xD

Algarian Gladiator's Wargrazer has a certain ring to it

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Man, this channel started fizzing out. Went from a new page in nearly minutes to "slow grinding." Leakers, assemble!

The european shitposters are headed to bed.

[Leowyld]

Man, this channel started fizzing out. Went from a new page in nearly minutes to "slow grinding." Leakers, assemble!

Our most prolific "leaker" has essentially been shut down. As has discussion about Tinkers. So, things are going to probably remain slow until something new shows up.

[ercarp]

The european shitposters are headed to bed.

Can confirm, it's 1 AM here and I'm about to fall asleep.

[Foolicious]

It's actually kinda weird we have not indeed seen any wind drakes nor stone drakes. Storm drakes? Sure, but not any of the former. Even more so if we take into account they're elemental related and the Incarnates are some sort of draconic elemental lords.

I take this with a grain of salt since the book has not been officially released, but there seems to be information that the incarnates aren't that closely related to the elements. Iridikron even states that he despises his new form and being infused with an element. They are more like a dark shaman in that sense.

Maybe the wind and storm drakes were not allowed to travel to the dragon isles because therazane and whoever is the current windlord didn't want them to. Or they are closer to the elements than to dragons and simply didn't care.
But i agree that its a bit weird we go around and collect lost dragonflights and forget about them.

[Chickat]

Well one is physical-based, the other is magic-based. Also there’s a clear difference between the two.

There may be, but blizzard wouldn't have 2 tech based classes. It would almost be hilarious if they released an artificer and not a tinker.

They absolutely could have tinkers being both. Especially if they release different spell schools and colors for other classes.

[Samin]

It's actually kinda weird we have not indeed seen any wind drakes nor stone drakes. Storm drakes? Sure, but not any of the former. Even more so if we take into account they're elemental related and the Incarnates are some sort of draconic elemental lords.

Do you mean recently/in 10.2? Because Cata had both Wind Drakes in the Throne of Four Winds and Stone Drakes in Deephome.

[huth]

Can confirm, it's 1 AM here and I'm about to fall asleep.

That and yesterday was end of summertime, so it's actually more like 2 AM.

[Neoplanet]

The current writers think that you create a sympathetic villain by making the original good guys turn out to be bad guys. From what I've seen on the PTR, Danuser's anti-Titan crusade continues.

i was thinking , the profecy of "every dragon will betray you" is kinda true but the more time passes , the more became wrong
the first two are correct
malygos - got crazy
neltharion - became deathwing
but then the next two became a mokey paw
ysera - became corrupeted by nightmare , get slain and sended to ardenweald uncorrupeted and now is active again (lets not talk about malfurion situation for now)
nozdormu - became murozond , but we travelled back in time and stopped it , now he make peace with infinites

and them , there are alextraza,with the betray can be a ccorruption or like "we make peace with vyranoth", and idk if tyr is gonna turn into a villan , especally because blizzard is probably using the tyr guard to explain other races paladins

so yeah , tyr became a villan have a smaller chance than for example odyr beccame a villan

[bruxx]

That and yesterday was end of summertime, so it's actually more like 2 AM.

Ugh don't remind me. We're getting that in Canada very soon and it's already pitch black at 6:30 without a time change

[Krakerz]

Since we're on topic of the website/trailer dwarf images again....

Observational Report: Earthen from Uldaman, the only ingame canon mention of Khaz Algar, says this when talking about Earthen and the Curse of Flesh around the world:

It is apparent from your reports that the degree of transformation in titan-forged subjects is significantly diverse. There is no group in which this variance is more easily observable than the earthen.

And we can see that in game as well - Dwarves, Troggs, Grummles and Kobolds (and maybe even Drogbar) are all descended from Earthen affected by the Curse of Flesh in some way or another, and they all look distinct.

The report then talks about the differences and similarities of the Khaz Algar creatures and Khaz Mozdan dwarves.

Yet while their behaviors, language, and demeanor show many similarities (for example, assigning Sector AR-938 the colloquial name "Khaz Algar"), physiologically the two groups remain distinct.

So the report says that they only behave like the dwarves - physiologically they look entirely different - just like Kobolds, Grummles, Troggs, and Dwarves are all visually different despite being descended from Earthen.

One would assume that if these Algarians were in any way physically similar to dwarves, the report would make note of that rather then calling them distinct.



But, if you look at the website/trailer leak, the Algarians are basically just gray dwarves




If you saw these two dudes, a dwarf, a trogg, and a grummle standing next to one another you wouldn't say "all of these are physiologically distinct", you'd say "Huh, weird, unlike the Troggs and the Grummles, the Algarians kinda look like Dwarves!"

[Catastrophy349]

Thinking about "A Song of the Depths," I'm really curious to see how the prophecy continues to unfold with Amirdrassil/Fyrakk (Dark Heart stuff) and the rest of DF leading into 11.0.