The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nightshade711]

For the sake of WoW I hope we stay away from underground. It's always been terrible.

[Catastrophy349]

I'm genuinely curious how an "underground expansion" is "magically" the answer for 11.0 to be mega HYPE/successful? I'm not saying it wouldn't nor am I saying that I wouldn't enjoy it. I just don't understand the obsession.

[Musta]

Would underground fix wow?

Its better than avaloren

[Varodoc]

I'm genuinely curious how an "underground expansion" is "magically" the answer for 11.0 to be mega HYPE/successful? I'm not saying it wouldn't nor am I saying that I wouldn't enjoy it. I just don't understand the obsession.

People love the Old Gods.

The underground lore is always associated with Old Gods.

So people will love underground expansion.

[Nightshade711]

I'm genuinely curious how an "underground expansion" is "magically" the answer for 11.0 to be mega HYPE/successful? I'm not saying it wouldn't nor am I saying that I wouldn't enjoy it. I just don't understand the obsession.

An underground expansion wouldn't be magically the answer imo.
Think he's just obsessed with Undermine/Tinkers is trying to stretch it to fit into a place where the plot keeps us far away from it.

Underground has never been well received in wow. An entire expansion being trapped underground probably would continue that trend.

[Izalla]

I'm doing my part. I remember seeing this fan-art years ago and have been waiting for the mount ever since:




https://www.artstation.com/artwork/n1qyE

Okay I need that mount. How do we not have a giraffe mount already!?

[Chickat]

I kinda felt guilty when I wrote it. Which is why I never actually called it a leak (although I realised that would be the assumption).

You have a knack for creating interesting ideas. I would love to have the expansion you created. It sounds really fun.

[Izalla]

We definitely need some giraffe mounts in the game.

11.0 is our time! Believe with me!

[Hitei]

Assuming Khaz Algar is distinct from Avaloren- as this leak claims- he didn't. Avaloren has the heretics, Khaz Algar has an Earthen variant that ended up culturally similar to Dwarves. They're often assumed to be one and the same because many posters assume Khaz Algar would just be a zone or city in Avaloren, but that's not confirmed- if it's its own continent, then there's nothing to suggest they'll be heretics.

This is correct.

But we also already know that the Earthen were sent to some unnamed region the Titans weren't involved with to investigate a phenomenon there, and that the keepers were confused by their change. So it makes no sense that they are Odyn storm-empowered earthen and it makes even less sense that Uldaz, a known, named titan location is there.

We also have, yet again the issue of "Stormrider" being a title for the dwarves, which makes the mount's name confusing and as before.

If they were looking for a way to reignite faction tension without escalating into full war, they'd have no reason to have 10.2 specifically lowering those tensions and increasing amicability. They already had the perfect tension point with the Forsaken and Night Elves, and instead are moving further towards peace.


This feels like it was written by someone who saw a content creator video summarizing leaks, rather than someone who actually understands any of the things being referenced.

[Chickat]

Yeah or it’s just Grizzly Hills HD. Looks cool though.

That SS doesnt look very HD to me?

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Honestly, sounds like a neat idea. I mean there was a lot of stuff in Northrend we didn’t get to explore properly. But that’s the case with every expansion. If we get something like that, give us finally the Troll raid in Gundrak.

What if most of Northrend thawed due to all the stuff that happened to Azeroth. The only zone with ice would be parts of Northern Storm peaks, and Icecrown. Sholozar basin is now an under water mini zone due to all of the thawed ice.

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That reminded me of the revamped Northrend leak/concept I posted in the 9.0 speculation thread way back when. The idea was that it would have been damaged by the Cataclysm, causing flooding (and other changes) across the entire continent. Also I got rid of Zul'Drak cus I hate that place.



Btw, I'm noticing now that I kind of got the location of Uldorus/Tyrhold correct.

Thats a cool map.

[Ebonn]

I just love how both people talking about how people will love an underground expansion are assuming they know what all people want and can speak for them. Per usual.

/s

[Catastrophy349]

An underground zone? Sure, maybe. An entire expansion? That's a yikes for me.

[Woggmer]

Lol, how is that leak more plausible with just a pure text that simply reiterates the previous leaks of Avaloren, by updating them with 2 underground zones to mitigate the concerns of 4 boring zones compared to leaks with either legit screenshots / legit effort to troll people?
Also, Odyn being the boss for the 3rd time with potential for 4th fight? Nope, hard nope.

Blizz has repeated bosses before like Ra-den, Kel'thuzad, Archimonde, Kil'jaeden, Kargath Bladefist, Teron'gor (Both MU and AU versions), even Illidan with the Mythic Gul'dan fight, even King Ymiron that everyone forgot about.

They can repeat bosses so long as the fight is different enough.

[GhostFish]

The next expansion will combine the demand for more underground content with the demand for more underwater content.

You'll spend the next several years swimming through lava. There is no surface or floor - just bright red glowing light coming from all directions and out of your screen.

All characters but tinkers instantly die, hardcore style. Yes, Tinkers are finally here! Tinkers spend all their time in PVP fighting for scraps to repair their failing lava-mechs. Bards have also been added, but they just die while scream-singing into the sea of lava.

Only Vulpera and Worgen can be tinkers, because you just don't understand the intricacies of how fantasy races develop lava-mech technology.

There may be a revamp. It's kind of impossible to tell through all the burning lava and constant sing-screaming.

[Dismayxz]

I'm genuinely curious how an "underground expansion" is "magically" the answer for 11.0 to be mega HYPE/successful? I'm not saying it wouldn't nor am I saying that I wouldn't enjoy it. I just don't understand the obsession.

There is no reason OTHER than obsession probably. And it wouldn't. People will complain if it's the general/normal biome choices we've seen before, (we've seen Underground before, almost anywhere original in the WoW Universe at some point, so really it's not that different or 'refreshing', hell we just got one Zone like that) and they will complain if it's Underground, Underwater, Space, not space, cosmic, not cosmic. It's almost like (not towards you, but generally all of these) the theme of the Zone means nothing/jackshit beyond unnecessary/misplaced bias, until we see what's actually IN IT. Getting around needs to be 'fun', being there can't get boring too quickly (even though it eventually will). Just the usual. It's not about the Zone being X, it's about what they do with it IF it is X.

[matijwow]

Blizz has repeated bosses before like Ra-den, Kel'thuzad, Archimonde, Kil'jaeden, Kargath Bladefist, Teron'gor (Both MU and AU versions), even Illidan with the Mythic Gul'dan fight, even King Ymiron that everyone forgot about.

They can repeat bosses so long as the fight is different enough.

All those bosses were used only twice. We fight Odyn in Trial of Valor and then again in Halls of Valor. The 10.2 quest has us solo repeat the ToV fight against him.

[Chickat]

Yeah, Northrend has quite a lot of potential still. The remnants of the scourge, dealing with the remnants of the nightmare again in grizzly hills, having the Zandalari try to bring back the loa of Zul Drak (which will us have go to Ardenweald), have Odyn join his Halls of Valor with Ulduar again, and some experiments with Freya and the Emerald Dream in Sholazar. That said, Imo it wouldn't work as a stand alone expansion unlike EK/Kalimdor revamps (and even these may need an extra island so we have new zones).

Edit: Forgot about Azjol Nerub, that could work as enough extra space for a northrend expansion down the line.

Flood about 1/3 of it then add underground nerub zone, and an underground titan zone beneath it. Killer xpac continent.

[matijwow]

The next expansion will combine the demand for more underground content with the demand for more underwater content.

You'll spend the next several years swimming through lava. There is no surface or floor - just bright red glowing light coming from all directions and out of your screen.

All characters but tinkers instantly die, hardcore style. Yes, Tinkers are finally here! Tinkers spend all their time in PVP fighting for scraps to repair their failing lava-mechs. Bards have also been added, but they just die while scream-singing into the sea of lava.

Only Vulpera and Worgen can be tinkers, because you just don't understand the intricacies of how fantasy races develop lava-mech technology.

There may be a revamp. It's kind of impossible to tell through all the burning lava and constant sing-screaming.

World of Warcraft: DOOM

[Paula Deen]

SNIP

Btw, I'm noticing now that I kind of got the location of Uldorus/Tyrhold correct.

Genuinely WILD that you got the location of Uldorus basically correct. Like it is even in the correct spot where it actually is on the continent.

[Woggmer]

All those bosses were used only twice. We fight Odyn in Trial of Valor and then again in Halls of Valor. The 10.2 quest has us solo repeat the ToV fight against him.

Technically we fought Kel'thuzad 3 times.. 1 is the original Naxxramas, 2 being the revamped Naxx in Wrath, and 3 when we fight him in Sanctum.