The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ferlion]

Writing it up and compiling all the evidence.

Give you a teaser, the original website leaker has been banned, the secondary user who posted the zones is not, and there's some other fishy things along side why the original website leak teased two zones showing 1 character in game, and 1 drawn character. A lot of things that point towards it being a poorly setup leak.

fun fun fun.

[justwatching]

Also, still.
Why would they heavily design the stage based on the new expansion, so everyone will see it before its shown in the opening ceremony?

They've never done that.

[McCallahan]

Yea I really don't believe that picture is AI, these days everyone just claims AI even tho they apparently never tried to create a pic via AI themselves. No shot it would get such details that accurate.

It's very obviously AI. Look at the bottom right, the pallets that the tree are on don't make sense, the perspective is off. Look at the box closest to the tree on the left, strange shape and the pallet that tree is on is also weird. Lots of weird nonsensical shapes all around.

Once you understand how AI programs work, it becomes very easy to find flaws.

The details are not even that accurate, lots of shapes blending into eachother. AI programs can output very sophisticated images but that still make visible mistakes.

[Chickat]

apparently there is a poll now for the 4 Avaloren images. Insane how divided it is.

To be fair that poll was heavily skewed fake until Shadochi came and said all that. Id like to change my vote but its too late.

[KyleEverett]

Do the black boxes with red lids look similar or am I a nutter? Boxes behind left guy’s legs.

Black box, red lid, blue/grey handle. Would AI get them that close?

Craftsman Totes are sold nationwide, but it is kinda interesting it'd be in an AI photo too.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Not a leak, just my final guess: clash of two (or more) cosmic forces, probably related to Avaloren, but goes cosmic. Void will be presented on a more positive manner but not as "the good guys". Main idea is that there's no absolutes, so Azerothians have to choose their own destiny beyond what the cosmic forces want for them.

[Chickat]

Also, still.
Why would they heavily design the stage based on the new expansion, so everyone will see it before its shown in the opening ceremony?

True. But it is a cool looking set NGL.

[Ebonn]

It's very obviously AI. Look at the bottom right, the pallets that the tree are on don't make sense, the perspective is off. Look at the box closest to the tree on the left, strange shape and the pallet that tree is on is also weird. Lots of weird nonsensical shapes all around.

Once you understand how AI programs work, it becomes very easy to find flaws.

The details are not even that accurate, lots of shapes blending into eachother. AI programs can output very sophisticated images but that still make visible mistakes.

Again, I want to believe it’s AI, but when building sets and stages, the way people do things sometimes is whacky and I’ve seen all that shit irl before.

[Ebonn]

This biggest take away i have. Yes all of those things happen and can be explained. But do they all happen at the same time? Odds are low.

They do, pretty often. Still hoping it’s not real but once again I have seen rooms that look exactly like this one way too many times. On the ceiling, there are some beams that look warped, and I haven’t seen anyone use those as evidence it’s AI, which would be fair, but I’ve seen warped and bent support beams in those rooms too lol.

Chickat, did you see the two photos I posted together with the storage bins that look similar?

[Teriz]

Its strange because there was next to 0 buildup for the dragon isles. The only actual Ingame hint was from an expansion prior to 9.0, an island expedition quest that only stated that Wrathion was looking for it.

Other than the terminally online turbo nerds, did the average player know about the dragon isles? I'd argue not.

You’re missing a crucial component; We also had multiple popular characters related to or from that location. That’s part of the build up too. This is especially the case with Wrathion who we’ve known since he was an egg in Cataclysm.

We’re invested in Wrathion, so if he’s going to the Dragon Isles we’ll go with him. We’re not invested in anyone or anything related to Avaloren.

Again, it’s the lore, it’s the characters, or it’s both. Avaloren has neither the lore or the characters.

[Ebonn]

Craftsman Totes are sold nationwide, but it is kinda interesting it'd be in an AI photo too.

Agreed. But like many smarter people than me have said, those AI image generators need to be thoroughly trained, and I find it unlikely at best that they would produce those exact bins that Blizzard is using.

[blaatschaap]

At this rate we'll easily hit 3k. Easily. I imagine the pace will only keep ramping up

[Chickat]

They do, pretty often. Still hoping it’s not real but once again I have seen rooms that look exactly like this one way too many times. On the ceiling, there are some beams that look warped, and I haven’t seen anyone use those as evidence it’s AI, which would be fair, but I’ve seen warped and bent support beams in those rooms too lol.

Chickat, did you see the two photos I posted together with the storage bins that look similar?

No. I may not be there yet. Im about 3 hours behind.

[Ebonn]

No. I may not be there yet. Im about 3 hours behind.

<3 I’ll zen out then lol

[FossilFree]

Not a leak, just my final guess: clash of two (or more) cosmic forces, probably related to Avaloren, but goes cosmic. Void will be presented on a more positive manner but not as "the good guys". Main idea is that there's no absolutes, so Azerothians have to choose their own destiny beyond what the cosmic forces want for them.

I'd rather see the cosmic forces presented in this way tbh. Each cosmic force can have its own good guys and bad guys, rather than the force itself being all or nothing.

Yrel is an obvious one for the light. Maybe we do meet a good-natured Old God that just wanted to nurture life or something (Xal'atath?) and the other bad-natured Old Gods were their enemies. How about some good fel lords? That would be interesting. The new Man'ari have already kind of started down that path too. The Sporemound could even be a bad guy version of life. Etc.

[McCallahan]

Again, I want to believe it’s AI, but when building sets and stages, the way people do things sometimes is whacky and I’ve seen all that shit irl before.

It's not about being whacky, it's about the image generation software making errors. Issues with perspective can arise from photography, but not that many. Has nothing to do with building a stage and everything to do with the AI software not making distinctions between where the boxes should end and the floor should start. AI software does not know what a box is, it has a library of boxes it tries to replicate based on the prompts, but it's currently imperfect and makes errors like what you see.

[Harbour]

- Avaloren is not the next expansion
- SoA acronym has already been leaked
- WoW Synthwave Beats to Chill To l Together at BlizzCon is a clue.

The sands reveal all secrets.

Oh look, 22mage pretends to be the SoA guy by using leaked Spiritborn D4 class.
So, Sands of A....?

[Chickat]

Imagine housing as the only new gameplay feature, this would be the lamest thing ever since garrisons, especially with housing being a fluff feature at best. Two races they just pulled out of their asses won’t help either. The next expansion needs not only a great story hook, but also something for long-term gameplay that keeps player going.

Whether or not its a fluff feature or not. Its a HUGE amount of work and would have to take the place of 2 or 3 other features.

[McCallahan]

- World of Warcraft: Light's Wrath

- New void/light specs for all the classes featuring: Shadow Hunter, Scarlet Crusader, Shaman Defiliers, Druids of the Decay
- New race customization: the further you go down the story, the more Light/Void cosmetic options you open for your character (account wide)
- Dragonriding and mounts: dragonriding everywhere, just like your character, the mounts will attain discernable cosmetic effects based on your affinity
- Systems: more specs reworks, the TBK's locations in Eastern Kingdom and Kalimdor are revamped and integrated into the main Map, just like Fel Flame for Warlocks, via various in-game activities you can unlock additional effects and colors for your spells and weapons, the glyphs are extended and integrated into the barbershop system

- Synopsis: On the Alternate Draenor - Light blessed Yrel with 3000 Holy Xenedars of Naaru and charged with an assignment to reclaim Void-ridden Azeroth for itself. Align yourself with unexpected ally - Xal'atath to fend of the Light's aggression

Lmao you couldn't make sure your prompt included the T in Warcraft?

[Moth Preacher]

Lmao you couldn't make sure your prompt included the T in Warcraft?

Yes, it's that shitty. Also, no World of.

We're going into Warcraft, baby