The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Magistrate]

There is no main story where you meet him.

The megadungeon.

[Myrrh]

Could be that after Fyrakks death, Iridikron shows up from wherever he went. And then the next expansion plot is revealed to us.

The other thing is, we know we have a 10.2.5 hot on the tail of 10.2, with the vendor build already alive and buzzing. Given the explicit use of these patches to advance Dragonflight's story, we may not actually see the linkage story beat until that patch rather than in the raid/campaign finale.

[Jaggler]

Could be that after Fyrakks death, Iridikron shows up from wherever he went. And then the next expansion plot is revealed to us.

I think it is Tyr, that establishes the Link into the other expansion. It would be a bit weird for Iridrikon to just appear, say some villain lines and then disappear again (but it would be very LK in WotLK-like)

I think it is Tyr's story that establishes the ongoing story, past DF. It could be that the Discs which we try to retrieve from the Nighthold which hold the memories of Tyr (and not some edited records) reveal the other side of Azeroth to us and how to get there.

[Echil46]

That one went over your head didn't it?

Not really, i did get the joke, and answered alike
But i do find it funny that you'd open the vault only to find the most tech savy little gnomes locked in. How underwhelming would it be for the people claimoring for Tinkers to finally get them, and they're incapables to salvage anything to get out of a heavy tech room.

BUT. I wasn't a big fan of Tinkers as a class concept, but if you introduce them as a group of characters that ended up locked up in a Titan vault, and managed to escape by tinkering, scrapping away and learning how to use the titan technology.. I'd play them, and they wouldn't be locked behind gnomes or gobelins.

[Shadochi]

Was contemplating on saying this since its 3rd hand info (so take it as you will).
Over the weekend I got 3rd hand confirmation (colleague of an ex-colleague type of thing) that the Features Overview screens are real.
As I said take this with a 50kg bag of salt since its literally a "friend of a friend" situation.(Even I am not taking it 100% for serious)
Tbh if true then I am a bit disappointed at least from the small subarea we can see of each zone. The wasteland one looks cool, but others are very basic.

[Magistrate]

That is also a possibility. Honestly at this point I admit that I got nothing as a lead minus a few breadcrumps here and there that are not necessarily anything conclusive. My hope would be a world revamp where basically the entirety of azeroth becomes a bit more evergreen with world events added etc etc. That would just be so cool. That and more class specs with more class specific visual customization while more classes gradually unlock for all races.

This and a wholesale consolidation of race selection at character creation is what me and my guildies keep coming back to.

When I think about Avaloren I honestly just don't get excited. Maybe I will if more stuff gets seeded about it (assuming we don't go there in 11.0) I will feel differently.

But right now, what gets me excited and most people I talk to, is a good, solid revamp, evergreen, modern content in revamped zones, class cosmetic options for all on the level of the new Druid stuff or Warlock stuff, and just story that feels tied to things we keep asking about, which more often than not is about geopolitical intrigue.

[Delever]

I think it is Tyr, that establishes the Link into the other expansion. It would be a bit weird for Iridrikon to just appear, say some villain lines and then disappear again (but it would be very LK in WotLK-like)

I think it is Tyr's story that establishes the ongoing story, past DF. It could be that the Discs which we try to retrieve from the Nighthold which hold the memories of Tyr (and not some edited records) reveal the other side of Azeroth to us and how to get there.

I actually kinda like this ngl. I love the speculation around the expansion so far.

[Zers Editor]

I think it is Tyr, that establishes the Link into the other expansion. It would be a bit weird for Iridrikon to just appear, say some villain lines and then disappear again (but it would be very LK in WotLK-like)

I think it is Tyr's story that establishes the ongoing story, past DF. It could be that the Discs which we try to retrieve from the Nighthold which hold the memories of Tyr (and not some edited records) reveal the other side of Azeroth to us and how to get there.

It was said in the interview that Vyranoth and the Aspects will question Tyr on MANY things. That may as well be one of them.

[Pheraz]

Was contemplating on saying this since its 3rd hand info (so take it as you will).
Over the weekend I got 3rd hand confirmation (colleague of an ex-colleague type of thing) that the Features Overview screens are real.
As I said take this with a 50kg bag of salt since its literally a "friend of a friend" situation.(Even I am not taking it 100% for serious)
Tbh if true then I am a bit disappointed at least from the small subarea we can see of each zone. The wasteland one looks cool, but others are very basic.

Features overview? Wdym?

[Myrrh]

It would be a bit weird for Iridrikon to just appear, say some villain lines and then disappear again (but it would be very LK in WotLK-like)

To be honest, that seems... not out of character for Iridikron. Granted in the first meeting he instantly goes to chow down, but after that it's been largely moustache-twirling villain hour. The difference from normal is that he's demonstrated he can back up most of his talk, and to date he has achieved all of his goals in these scenarios.

Features overview? Wdym?

They mean the four images; they resemble the video style used in 'features overview' clips for expansions, which in the past generally include a few quick shots of the major new zones.

[Sondrelk]

Was contemplating on saying this since its 3rd hand info (so take it as you will).
Over the weekend I got 3rd hand confirmation (colleague of an ex-colleague type of thing) that the Features Overview screens are real.
As I said take this with a 50kg bag of salt since its literally a "friend of a friend" situation.(Even I am not taking it 100% for serious)
Tbh if true then I am a bit disappointed at least from the small subarea we can see of each zone. The wasteland one looks cool, but others are very basic.

That is some interesting info, though I struggle to see those images being real unless it's somehow revamped zones.
Maybe the person meant something else was real?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

More than likely its just a story related to 10.2 since it involves both Green Dragons and Tyr.

There’s little to no chance they would put something like that in a book in the patch and otherwise have no mention of it and then make it part of the same patch.

It would be like the dragon isle being in 8.3 because wrathion mentioned it in that patch.

[Kiria]

Was contemplating on saying this since its 3rd hand info (so take it as you will).
Over the weekend I got 3rd hand confirmation (colleague of an ex-colleague type of thing) that the Features Overview screens are real.
As I said take this with a 50kg bag of salt since its literally a "friend of a friend" situation.(Even I am not taking it 100% for serious)
Tbh if true then I am a bit disappointed at least from the small subarea we can see of each zone. The wasteland one looks cool, but others are very basic.

Ahhh well s*** I was hoping we were done with that x.x

If true its expected but does it look exciting? No it doesnt but they better introduce some badass systems if they dont want people laughing them off the stage.

[bruxx]

Was contemplating on saying this since its 3rd hand info (so take it as you will).
Over the weekend I got 3rd hand confirmation (colleague of an ex-colleague type of thing) that the Features Overview screens are real.
As I said take this with a 50kg bag of salt since its literally a "friend of a friend" situation.(Even I am not taking it 100% for serious)
Tbh if true then I am a bit disappointed at least from the small subarea we can see of each zone. The wasteland one looks cool, but others are very basic.

I hope your friend's friend is full of shit :| nothing about those images wowed me

[Nebron]

Was contemplating on saying this since its 3rd hand info (so take it as you will).
Over the weekend I got 3rd hand confirmation (colleague of an ex-colleague type of thing) that the Features Overview screens are real.
As I said take this with a 50kg bag of salt since its literally a "friend of a friend" situation.(Even I am not taking it 100% for serious)
Tbh if true then I am a bit disappointed at least from the small subarea we can see of each zone. The wasteland one looks cool, but others are very basic.

You mean, those 4 photos of zones are supposed to be real?
If so, then... well let's hope the colleague of your colleague is nothing more but an imaginary friend.

It's funny that I hoped these @Scaleface void zones images are fake. Now I pray they are real.

[Teriz]

There’s little to no chance they would put something like that in a book in the patch and otherwise have no mention of it and then make it part of the same patch.

It would be like the dragon isle being in 8.3 because wrathion mentioned it in that patch.

Except Dragon Isles was a long standing location that we've heard about for years, and it was cut content from Vanilla.

A story about a green dragon flying west into the unknown against Tyr's wishes doesn't really mean anything. It could be as simple as symbolism of the dragons disobeying Tyr.

[Myrrh]

Ahhh well s*** I was hoping we were done with that x.x

If true its expected but does it look exciting? No it doesnt but they better introduce some badass systems if they dont want people laughing them off the stage.

The systems situation is probably more interesting to discuss, because what rabbit can they pull out of a hat? Talents are sorted, professions need some tweaks but overall the rework has them in a better place, UI overhaul happened.

Archaeology revamp is likely, but that can hardly stand on its own.

Except Dragon Isles was a long standing location that we've heard about for years, and it was cut content from Vanilla.

A story about a green dragon flying west into the unknown against Tyr's wishes doesn't really mean anything. It could be as simple as symbolism of the dragons disobeying Tyr.

When we've already been teased with scraps about another continent hidden away by perilous conditions, it's pretty reasonable to see this as a teaser, whether for the immediate next expansion or a future one.

[Sondrelk]

Ahhh well s*** I was hoping we were done with that x.x

If true its expected but does it look exciting? No it doesnt but they better introduce some badass systems if they dont want people laughing them off the stage.

The accusations of actual filler expansion would be deafening.
No 10.3. Reused assets everywhere. Everyone expecting a world revamp after Ion confirmed it was something that would likely happen eventually.

Only upside is that it would likely go for all kinds of crowd pleaser features, like removal of Transmog limitations on armor.

[Well Done Steak]

More than likely its just a story related to 10.2 since it involves both Green Dragons and Tyr.

Well since Tyr is being restored AFTER the main campaign and death. of Fyrakk, not likely. It'll be a segue to 11.0

[Sondrelk]

The systems situation is probably more interesting to discuss, because what rabbit can they pull out of a hat? Talents are sorted, professions need some tweaks but overall the rework has them in a better place, UI overhaul happened.

Archaeology revamp is likely, but that can hardly stand on its own.

Housing or some equivalent is an option, though would be weird to have it on the opposite side of the planet compared to where we usually are.
That kind of feature feels like it should be as close to Stormwind and Orgrimmar as possible to make it feel evergreen no matter the expansion. Having it in Avaloren or whatever would make it feel like Garrisons in having it tied to an old expansion.