The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Demonly]

New zone leak.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...reenshot_leak/

[justwatching]

New zone leak.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...reenshot_leak/

That doesnt look like it was captured in engine.

[kavikor]

That doesnt look like it was captured in engine.

looks drawn maybe? like painted in photoshop

it could be concept art

[matijwow]

New zone leak.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...reenshot_leak/

Another snapchat Avaloren one, but the reddit account actually has a history instead of being throwaway.

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Another snapchat Avaloren one, but the reddit account actually has a history instead of being throwaway.

And it has gross NSFW stuff, Andrew Yang campaigning, and a fake 8.3 leak.

[Myrrh]

New zone leak.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...reenshot_leak/

While that looks like my jam thematically, the trees look vastly lower quality than the absurd quality water. Also not sure why someone with access to either a pre-alpha build or trailer material would be sharing with that sort of caption. Not sold.

And it has gross NSFW stuff, Andrew Yang campaigning, and a fake 8.3 leak.

Christ, yeah this person is on another planet. Best not go down that rabbit hole.

[Palapop]

I'd say people prefer it over say, Cata.

I wonder where did you come up with that 1.

DF is same level-catastrophe as SL. Lore wise. If not even bigger lol.

do you even remember 10.0 questline?

9734294723 started stories= 0 finished.

nothing about gnolls
nothing about that tower in eastern Azure Span (forgot its name)
nothing about bronze dragonflight
nothing about tuskars
nothing about djaradin
what was the point of entering Deathwings laboratory again? we just chased 1 dracthyr there and thats it?
who woke up Raszageth? How? where was she held?

just beyond bad story-wise.

it would be better if they retconned EVERYTHING past BFA.

also fun fact: we never actually KILLED N'zoth.

Fight ends up 2.2%.

[Nightshade711]

I’m not buying the notion of a new neutral race right after Dracthyr. In fact I completely buy the notion of no new race at all.

A new class or set of specs is VERY possible though if Blizzard wants to buoy Augvoker. I don’t believe they’re going to make Augvoker pure DPS, and I don’t see them allowing the spec to be the only support option. I see Blizzard doubling down on the support concept, even to the point of creating a new 4th support role.

Classes are a lot more work to do than races.
I suspect they’ll revamp customization again or add a new race or two tbh.

Might be easier to make new races with the machine learning tech Blizz patented last year to map armor onto character models.

[matijwow]

I wonder where did you come up with that 1.

DF is same level-catastrophe as SL. Lore wise. If not even bigger lol.

do you even remember 10.0 questline?

9734294723 started stories= 0 finished.

nothing about gnolls
nothing about that tower in eastern Azure Span (forgot its name)
nothing about bronze dragonflight
nothing about tuskars
nothing about djaradin
what was the point of entering Deathwings laboratory again? we just chased 1 dracthyr there and thats it?
who woke up Raszageth? How? where was she held?

just beyond bad story-wise.

it would be better if they retconned EVERYTHING past BFA.

also fun fact: we never actually KILLED N'zoth.

Fight ends up 2.2%.

Kind of weird that they made a high quality cutscene for Wrathion to do a back flip and stab N'Zoth with a knife, then the final cutscene is in-game and the knife is never seen again.

[Myrrh]

snip.

Just throwing this out there, but the Razsageth stuff is very much a known quantity. It's locked to the Drakthyr starting experience though, which is a questionable choice imo.

[MCMLXXXII]

New zone leak.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...reenshot_leak/

Another person without a Prnt Scrn key.

[Kneckt95]

New zone leak.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...reenshot_leak/

This is straight up AI lol, zooming in shows it clear as day.

[Ebonn]

New zone leak.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...reenshot_leak/

My eyes! X.X

[kavikor]

Nothing will beat the original 4!

[MCMLXXXII]

snip

Oh no, it's almost like they are setting up new storylines that can be continued in future expansions. How dare they, I want my answers within a month after the start!

[bruxx]

I missed the good old picture of a screen

[KayRule]

I’m not buying the notion of a new neutral race right after Dracthyr. In fact I completely buy the notion of no new race at all.

A new class or set of specs is VERY possible though if Blizzard wants to buoy Augvoker. I don’t believe they’re going to make Augvoker pure DPS, and I don’t see them allowing the spec to be the only support option. I see Blizzard doubling down on the support concept, even to the point of creating a new 4th support role.

Part of me does feel they debut the Augvoker the way they did mid-expansion to gauge opinions and expectations and impact on the game specifically because the next class they're working on is heavily focused in a Support-themed fantasy and they needed to know Support would work before they did it.

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World of Warcraft: Covenant of Crimson Knights
Eastern Kingdoms and Lordaeron revamp
Paladin for all races
new races ogres and high elves (unique skeletons)
main villains scarlet crusade
class skin glyphs

horrendous title. does not roll of the tongue, unmarketable. try harder next time, didn't read anything below that because it was that bad

[AOL Instant Messenger]

So the boxes did it for you? Not the lady on the right with the two left arms? lol Every time I see a leak picture and it is blurry I already believe it to be fake. Everyone's cameras on their phones today are fantastic. People aren't still using a Nokia 3310 that came out in 2000. However, after saying that I see they are still selling those phones. lol My point being, all of these pictures their faces are blurred out, or things just don't seem right like the person with two left arms. lol

While there's all the rest of it, that's just the one thing that immediately caught my eye as being totally out of the ordinary. It just looked so aberrant and immediately-obvious that it seemed more relevant than everything else.

[Myrrh]

Part of me does feel they debut the Augvoker the way they did mid-expansion to gauge opinions and expectations and impact on the game specifically because the next class they're working on is heavily focused in a Support-themed fantasy and they needed to know Support would work before they did it.

Thinking along similarish lines, but rather than feeling out the community response, my sense is that it was to let the concept play out without the additional variables that additional specs would bring, so that they could identify the kinks and fine tune the role before they design further such specs in the following expansion.

[justwatching]

looks drawn maybe? like painted in photoshop

it could be concept art

Hmm..yeah or AI. As far as I can tell for DF they only used the one with Alex for advertisement.

[Mecheon]

I wonder where did you come up with that 1.

DF is same level-catastrophe as SL. Lore wise. If not even bigger lol.

do you even remember 10.0 questline?

9734294723 started stories= 0 finished.

nothing about gnolls
nothing about that tower in eastern Azure Span (forgot its name)
nothing about bronze dragonflight
nothing about tuskars
nothing about djaradin
what was the point of entering Deathwings laboratory again? we just chased 1 dracthyr there and thats it?
who woke up Raszageth? How? where was she held?

just beyond bad story-wise.

it would be better if they retconned EVERYTHING past BFA.

also fun fact: we never actually KILLED N'zoth.

Fight ends up 2.2%.

Mate, if we're complaining about started stories that aren't finished, I wouldn't say that's a smart idea to bring it up when I'm saying something's better than Cata, AKA "Whoops we dedcided Worgen just don't get to experience the ending to their starting zone" the expansion

We had an entire questline with that one gnoll who wanted to unite with people
Which tower off in the east? The Archives? I'd say that's more centre and uh, yeah, we kind of do have a quest there. Like, the best regarded quest in this whole expansion. Or the one for flavour in the middle of the elemental area?
We just had a whole bronze dragonflight storyline ender where they had a cease fire with the Infinites and Nozdormu admitted to lessening how bad he treated their worldview, did you just... Not do that quest? Or are you expecting them to go for the inevitable Murozond bomb already rather than saving it?
Tuskarrs were a whole reputation. They've had basically as much stuff as any other rep has ever gotten
Did you not find the one Djardin who tells you about their history and stuff?
We were going down there because last time we ran into said Dracthyr he was trying to jury-rig a mind control device to forcibly enslave an entire army of draconic super soldiers all around the world and get them to work for him, which'd probably, y'know. Cause a little bit of a war. Plus helping out our quarreling pals Sabellion and Wrathion
Did you just. Not roll a Dracthyr? Kurog Grimtotem (That one tauren boss in Vault) busted her out. He did so by breaking that door from the outside and breaking every other jail cell on the island in the process, which is also how the Dracthyr wake up. She was held on the Forbidden Reach, hence why that was locked off on expansion launch. You can even just, run into her prison now. Its Froststone Vault, where those events happen

You're saying this is bad and you're wanting BfA to be the cut off point. BfA. Really? I'm just saying, the best story in BfA was Jaina and Rastakhan's stuff, and everything else was pretty awful, but you're treating it higher than this. I mean, all yours cobber but uh, if you're wanting more stuff like the last stuff of BfA over 'the blue dragonflight quest' then I will unsub from your expected game