The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[kavikor]

I still can't understand the "hate" for the 4 "leaked" images. If they are real, wait until BlizzCon for them to be shown in proper, high-res and hopefully, the rest of the "zone overview" makes up for the awful shots taken here.

Yeah, I agree, I keep trying to reiterate that point cause I don't want peoples hype crushed based of a couple images before we even get the real meat.

I'm having fun no matter what the leak is, but I know its not like that for everyone.

[Bsirk]

Was DF revealed during a "blizzconline" ? I don't remember that.

I believe the first thing leaked was that picture of Alexstraza on someone's desk.

[Chickat]

I still can't understand the "hate" for the 4 "leaked" images. If they are real, wait until BlizzCon for them to be shown in proper, high-res and hopefully, the rest of the "zone overview" makes up for the awful shots taken here.

I thought the zones looked gorgeous. Sure samey compared to bfa or dragon isles but if it also includes a revamp and or killer feature i would be fine.

[Deadmines]

Even going with the idea that the leaked pictures are from both the announcement trailer and press kit, and that they may just be unexciting shots cherrypicked, it'd still be funny to me because their big money shot, the one that has "New Continent" on it, is just a shot of some misty pine trees and some colorful flora that looks like it could be from Tiragarde Sound. Nothing really new or any wow factor in the slightest, not like how many previous trailers overlay that text over some large new architecture or otherwise impressive shot.

I'm more or less in the same boat. The other thing that makes me thing that makes me think it's real is that kind of "Aggorand" thing in the background. The same one from the website leak. Now bare in mind, i'm very much looking at this with an amateur eye. The fact that it's in a different pose to the one in the website leak is somewhat pinging me a bit. From the look of it, it's a modified model on a rig of an ogre or kul'tiran. With all those extra bits that have been modeled on, at the very least it would likely have to have some level of weight painting to make sure they don't fly all over the place while it's in motion. Weightpainting isn't a convenient or enjoyable experience. I find it unlikely someone would go through that effort just to use it in essentially 2 shots. It would be far simpler just to model it directly in 2 different poses, but looking at it - I seriously don't believe that's the case.

Case in short, I seriously believe this is the "one" and if not, I am really excited for them to reveal themselves if it's fake. I'd love to hear about their process.

[Chickat]

I do think getting hyped over a fake leak will only lead to disappointment. Play with binary riddles, but don't get your hopes up over anything involved in it.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes. TS.

[huth]

Quasi?
They are really just engineers and inventors.

Tinkers is just the gnome word for it.

Whether magic is involved or not is another story, but usually is because magic tech is cool.

Artificer is pretty much just a person who makes stuff. The term sounds a lot more fancy than it actually is.

[Hitei]

I thought the zones looked gorgeous. Sure samey compared to bfa or dragon isles but if it also includes a revamp and or killer feature i would be fine.

If real, they are a pretty significant step down from the strong, unique aesthetics, terrain construction, design and identity of the past three expansions.

[Catastrophy349]

I thought the zones looked gorgeous. Sure samey compared to bfa or dragon isles but if it also includes a revamp and or killer feature i would be fine.

/10 chars

[Chickat]

If real, they are a pretty significant step down from the strong, unique aesthetics, terrain construction, design and identity of the past three expansions.

Which is fine if they spent the resources elsewhere. Imo of course.

[Well Done Steak]

If blizz has the balls to release another class right after evoker then it HAS to be TInker.

We deserve nothing less than the most controversial class that's ended countless friendships for the 10th wow exp

Well prob get 4th specs though with many being support

[Mokenuf]

I'm happy with the state of wow right now, DF is a great and solid foundation for classes and systems, I don't feel like we need "more".

I just want the story/lore to be good again.

[Chickat]

I'd totally be down for an Artificer class. Having it be based around Titan technology sounds like the sort of spin Blizzard would do with a popular idea, and it sounds more appealing to me than just "kek scrappy goblin goes boom".

That said, yeah. Pinch of salt.

Id feel a bit bad for Teriz though.

[Leowyld]

I believe the first thing leaked was that picture of Alexstraza on someone's desk.

Yeah, that and the website title leak were just over two weeks out. So way earlier than we are now. We might be closer to BlizzCon without a leaked title than we have ever been? Not sure on that one, but it must be close.

[Mrpms]

Yeah, that and the website title leak were just over two weeks out. So way earlier than we are now. We might be closer to BlizzCon without a leaked title than we have ever been? Not sure on that one, but it must be close.

Blizzard has taken the Marvel Studios approach to stopping leaks by just hiring a shit ton of snipers.

[Hitei]

Which is fine if they spent the resources elsewhere. Imo of course.

Meh.

They spent resources elsewhere in Cata and we still got five strongly designed zones.

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Id feel a bit bad for Teriz though.

Yeah. Artificer has gotta be his worst case scenario because zero shot they implement a race-agnostic, generic'd technology class and then add Tinkers afterwards. In fact, if real, I feel like it'd almost confirm the devs think Tinkers as concept drift way too close to the domain of the engineering profession and think it's non-viable to have such a goblin/gnome themed class, so they instead went with general magitech as a more distinct and appealing concept.

[justwatching]

I mean I'm not gonna judge the design of the zones from one screenshot each. There are some pretty lame shots in the DF press kit too.

The reason they are disappointing to me is that it points to another 4 zone island expansion.

[Harbour]

Artificer makes sense.
It's a nice name to bring most race in, unlike Tinkers who are gnomes and goblins.
Goblins, Gnomes, Draenei, Blood Elves, Dwarves, Nightborne are going to be Artificers for sure.
Actually Artificer name makes this fun leak more credible. Maybe the guy counted on it, maybe not, but I think Artificer leak would look more legit than the same leak but with Tinkers instead.

[vintage79]

these don't really look that great

burn it!
/10char

[Eldryth]

The Stormpeaks are home of the Stormforged Artificer, both steps have been solved, but Stormforged Iron Dwarf is not your race. The Earthen of Khaz Algar, based on them. You got your plot, your continent, your race, your class, but what about systems?

For brevity, here's the artificer page on wowpedia
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Artificer

I'm very skeptical about these riddles being real in the first place, but assuming they are for the sake of discussion...

The quote specifies the Stormforged Artificers- an enemy in the Storm Peaks, so it'd probably revolve around Titan tech rather than the Draenei stuff that page talks about.

Either way, looking at all the stuff called "Artificer" in-game, it looks like most of them use magical technology specifically rather than engineering, and creating constructs (rather than mechs or gadgets) seems to be a recurring theme- the mob referenced, in particular, used Rune Golems and were working on an Iron Colossus as a superweapon... so maybe they would be a pet class? Seems completely distinct from the Tinker some posters want.

Definitely something I'd be interested in trying though.

[guro-tchai]

unironically resubbing and buying 11.0 if there's a high void elf tinker artificer. shit's too funny to miss.