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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    Any bets on F2P WoW starting with 11.0?
    As long as there is a paid battle pass or some kind of season you can buy for 29.90 per year, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiria View Post
    Good way to kill the game imho, people have had a subscription for so long they wouldnt want that degrade in quality by shifting to f2p.
    Blizzard won't be that dumb to make subscribers feel like they loose value.
    With instruments like Trading Post they can encourage subscribes to continue being subscribers, while F2P players will be able to play the game fully but, for example, get less monthly cosmetic rewards, less tendies etc.
    I always thought Trading Post was the first bird foreshadowning F2P. It's very suitable tool to monetize the game without removing base game kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    As long as there is a paid battle pass or some kind of season you can buy for 29.90 per year, yes.
    Or per season like OW and Diablo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    Any bets on F2P WoW starting with 11.0?
    Why would they? WoW still is the most popular MMO, even with a subscription. It has three major rivals: FF14 (subscription-based), ESO (pseudo-subscription), and GW2 (I don't remember if they have a premium subscription). If you consider PvP, there's BDO, which has gained more popularity recently, but that game also has a basically mandatory premium subscription fee.
    So, for what reasonable reason would they go free-to-play? WoW is a Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game (MMORPG); it is not a Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) or Battle Royale. It doesn't need to go free-to-play to compete against the other rivals in the market. I could see us getting a new tier in the Game Pass that includes WoW, but that will only happen next year, as Spencer said that they will not be announcing anything of the sorts this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Of course Avaloren and Khaz Algar are different locations.

    The Avaloren book tells us how Odyn can't reach Avaloren, and Khaz Algar book is a report on the Dwarves there, implying they have people on location.
    But there's no established timeline here, right? Could it just be, that Khaz Algar book comes first, and Odyn lost access to it only later?

    Because damn, for every reason why they are not the same place, I see another why they are. For example storm theme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    We will probably get another legitimate-looking leak today.
    I expect binary guy to come back and spoil us with systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    I expect binary guy to come back and spoil us with systems.
    Same, very curious as to what they'll say. This could make or break the leak

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    I expect binary guy to come back and spoil us with systems.
    Tbh I’m very skeptical about the binary leaks until we get some more hard evidence. Throwing stuff into a binary translator doesn’t make it any more legit.

    However don’t get me wrong it is fun to speculate, I am curious about the artificer class & how it’d operate if it were true.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The point is that what Paladins are doing can rather easily be considered hi-tech artificing.
    Lightborne/Guardian of Ancient Kings race concept

  9. #44409
    Artificer sounds more interesting than tinker, more diverse

  10. #44410
    Quote Originally Posted by Moth Preacher View Post
    Artificer sounds more interesting than tinker, more diverse
    It's just tinker for more races, which is the smart way to do it. Same reason there is only one race-based class (Demon Hunter)

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    Artificer did it for me. It's either very smart if it's fake or it's legit because Artificer makes way more sense than Tinker.

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    Is the new WoW book out for EU/UK?

    Can't find it on Audible & Amazon has it released Nov. 7?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moth Preacher View Post
    Artificer sounds more interesting than tinker, more diverse
    it's basically race agnostic tinker, so yeah it's better than tinker but at the same time it is tinker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Tbh I’m very skeptical about the binary leaks until we get some more hard evidence. Throwing stuff into a binary translator doesn’t make it any more legit.

    However don’t get me wrong it is fun to speculate, I am curious about the artificer class & how it’d operate if it were true.
    Pretty much the only thing writing in binary does is make it more annoying to read. It's not like it's hard to translate back.

  15. #44415
    Quote Originally Posted by Moth Preacher View Post
    Artificer sounds more interesting than tinker, more diverse
    Agreed.
    I see it just being a “jack of all trades” version of engineer/tinker using all different kinds of technology. (Gnome, Goblin, Draenei, Elf, etc)

    Which from the player character side makes sense given we’ve always been “special”. (Like Evoker is a super special title for us being the “Jack of all trades” for using dragonflight magics)

    And is possible because there’s that gnome/goblin couple in lore that combine their gnomish/goblin tech.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The point is that what Paladins are doing can rather easily be considered hi-tech artificing.
    Lightborne/Guardian of Ancient Kings race concept

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    Artificer did it for me. It's either very smart if it's fake or it's legit because Artificer makes way more sense than Tinker.
    I mean a lot of players have been discussing the Artificer class concept for years, it's out there with necromancer and bard, and for a lot of people it has always been interchangeable with tinker/been a flavour of tinker. Ofc the two could be completely separate, but that would be redundant. If we are indeed getting Artificers, I would be pretty excited!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moth Preacher View Post
    Artificer sounds more interesting than tinker, more diverse
    I don't know... i feel like Blizzard wouldn't go for another class this soon, i can see they adding new sup specs to make the "sup role" more diverse, but i kinda doubt they would release a new class.

  18. #44418
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Pretty much the only thing writing in binary does is make it more annoying to read. It's not like it's hard to translate back.
    If it's legit, it's probably too much of a pain in the ass for Blizz's anti-leak squad to go and translate. Good way to cover tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valysar View Post
    Is there a blizzcon bingo already up ?
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  20. #44420
    Quote Originally Posted by Zankai27 View Post
    Unironically yes
    I'm sure you believe that.
    I'm sure you'd say the same were the game to go ftp.

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