The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Jaggler]

The shape of the larger "blades" of the staff are is to the blade of the dagger

Well, if Xal'atath is the Harbinger, and the Staff called, Stave of the Harbinger, it makes sense, that it ties heavily into the dagger.

[Nebron]

For the record, has there ever been such an accumulation of fake leaks?

The binary leaker and all the crap around... I don't know, it just feels so uninspired and apart from the 4 images there's nothing to latch onto. Every single leak here is just a regurgitated version of Avaloren / Khaz Algar. I'd even gladly accept leaks that eventually will prove themselves to be fake, but at least somewhat creative, out of the box. I get it, Algarian Stormrider kinda killed the leak season early on and dramatically narrowed down the theme, but come one fakers, you can do better

[Nightshade711]

Interesting, same "eye" design motif as the base Xal'Atath. Makes the dagger now seem like it originated offworld from Azeroth.

My theory involving playable Ethereals & K’aresh as a starter zone/patch zone is that Xal’atath will try to get something like a part of Dimensius that was left behind on K’aresh.

Could tie in with Scaleface’s leaks.

[Paula Deen]

For the record, has there ever been such an accumulation of fake leaks?

The binary leaker and all the crap around... I don't know, it just feels so uninspired and apart from the 4 images there's nothing to latch onto. Every single leak here is just a regurgitated version of Avaloren / Khaz Algar. I'd even gladly accept leaks that eventually will prove themselves to be fake, but at least somewhat creative, out of the box. I get it, Algarian Stormrider kinda killed the leak season early on and dramatically narrowed down the theme, but come one fakers, you can do better

I think the Binary is uninspired, as do you, but I think its because we have done this before. If the leak season had been without AI generation and all we got was the website leak, the 4 screenshots, and the binary I would be impressed.

The shit AI stuff really delutes the pool.

[NikolaiShade]

Well, if Xal'atath is the Harbinger, and the Staff called, Stave of the Harbinger, it makes sense, that it ties heavily into the dagger.

and the name Voidsong is connected to the book Song of the Deep and to the whisper of N'zoth during DF

[ChairmanKaga]

The shape of the larger "blades" of the staff are is to the blade of the dagger

I wonder if attaching part/echo of themselves to an object (weapon) is a way for the Void Lords to enter reality. Unlike previously when they could only spit out the tumorous Old Gods.

[Nebron]

I think the Binary is uninspired, as do you, but I think its because we have done this before. If the leak season had been without AI generation and all we got was the website leak, the 4 screenshots, and the binary I would be impressed.

The shit AI stuff really delutes the pool.

I mean, the binary leaker would be much cooler, if he dropped the info and was simply gone. The fact that he reacted real time to people's reactions at an ever growing pace was a giving away that he came up with all of that on spot and came here just for applause

[Moth Preacher]

Damn, playable Ethereals would be so cool, I think it will even bring some of "I'm done with WoW" friends I have back into the game

[Cheezits]

Wait, there's an eye in the Harbinger staff?

Eye of Azshara?

[ercarp]

This is perfect.

[ChairmanKaga]

Wait, there's an eye in the Harbinger staff?

Eye of Azshara?

Considering all the Avaloren Earthen/Dwarf speculation maybe it's Aye of Azshara.

[Eupitor]

As much as I would love that I just don't see why Blizzard would do that unless they had stories they wanted to tell there. Old players would have no reason to go otherwise aside from a few minutes of "this is neat" factor. And new players are funneled through BFA and get guided away from the old world anyway.

What i have always wondered… considering there where no plans to revamp the old world. They said it would be too much work to integrate these zones as they had to clone literally every asset, npc and quest with all mechanics which also could cause new bugs and so on. But haven't they literally done the exact thing as they made BC classic? I mean technically they rebuilt those zones from scratch for the new game architecture. Couldn't they have used this process and transfer the work to retail?

[Chickat]

I think that Khaz Algar is separate from Avaloren. Why? Because their names don't have anything in common at all.

If anything, "Avaloren" makes Me think of Avalon from the Arthurian legends, most certainly not Fantasy Dwarves.

"Khaz Modan" refers to the entire Dwarven subcontinent, but Ironforge is actually much bigger in the lore and even in-game it's implied that it spans through the entire region, even as far as Loch Modan (the little closed-off windows that are above the gates of Ironforge are also found at the borders of Dun Morogh/Loch Modan, implying that it's all an inter-connected underground settlement much larger than just city of Ironforge).

So I expect Khaz Algar to be a very large, subcontinent-wide settlement. It might get a similar treatment to Zuldazar/Dazar'alor, where Zuldazar is the entire city that spans the entire zone, and the urban core and player hub is Dazar'alor.

Might be a huge suramar type zone in the middle with the city stretching almost to the edges of other zones.

[Raetary]

Considering all the Avaloren Earthen/Dwarf speculation maybe it's Aye of Azshara.

Azshara will infuse herself with titan essence and grow a beard!

And she shall rule both Naga and Dwarfdom.

[Foolicious]

Azshara will infuse herself with titan essence and grow a beard!

And she shall rule both Naga and Dwarfdom.

Not azshara growing a beard before trolls do

[Chickat]

I think this is why a World Revamp makes so much sense.
In Dragonflight they fixed a bunch of gameplay systems, and generally made the baseline experience of playing the game exciting. Next expansion should then build on that by making an expansion exciting to see unfold, which is the weak point of Dragonflight.
After that it would just be a matter of making good on the promise of incremental improvements, with the occasional big crowd pleaser feature like Housing.

Imo it would be cool to see HD revamp of ek,kal, and Northrend. Unlikely, but having Pandaria being the oldest landmass on Azeroth would be great. Its starting yo shoe its age but its still beautiful and passable for the odd quest that would take us there.


Once they do that the entire game will be modernized.

All new art, updated and modern features etc.

If 11.0 if a revamp, 12.0 can start actually building the game up.

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me with any leak that does not include a world revamp:

Same tbh. Our day shall come sooner than later my child.

[Pantupino]

such a timeless tomfoolery, I was really waiting for this to drop

[Harbour]

Manage your expecations (if the leak is even legit), Ethereals and K'aresh sadly not on the menu, at least not right now.
I still cant wrap my head over Earthens. Are basic Dwarves and DI ones not enough? I mean i would be fine with them, if we also got someone players asked for for decades, like Ethereals. But not, its just some rocky dwarves. Classic Blizzard.

[Mecheon]

If anywhere needs a revamp, its Outland. Still the oldest content in the game and, let's be honest, TBC's story wasn't exactly great. Backporting WoD stuff would go well

Manage your expecations (if the leak is even legit), Ethereals and K'aresh sadly not on the menu, at least not right now.
I still cant wrap my head over Earthens. Are basic Dwarves and DI ones not enough? I mean i would be fine with them, if we also got someone players asked for for decades, like Ethereals. But not, its just some rocky dwarves. Classic Blizzard.

There's always been a bit of a following for earthen, though a lot of that is also "Man there's a lot more races set up to be Hordies, huh?", with the Earthen being one of the few where we can go "Oh that'd absolutely fit on Alliance"

[Nightshade711]

Damn, playable Ethereals would be so cool, I think it will even bring some of "I'm done with WoW" friends I have back into the game

Agreed. I think there is a lot of cool things that they could do with their customization.
I just hope they don’t pull the “ope they can’t wear armor” like they did with Dracthyr.