1. #45261
    Quote Originally Posted by Leowyld View Post
    A joke can easily be insulting. The two things aren't mutually exclusive.
    1) Would be insanely interesting to read how you could turn what I wrote into an insult.
    2) It is clear you see these new accounts with fake leaks as insulting you personally, which is ridiculous.
    3) Leak season is clearly not healthy for you if you get this wrapped up and butthurt over things. Relax.

  2. #45262
    Quote Originally Posted by JMitchy96 View Post
    I wasn’t trying to imply that blizzard have never reused assets, I’m simply pointing out the fact that generally, in trailers and promotional images, they try to showcase new assets/material as the focus, rather than simple reskins/edits like we’re seeing here. We don’t see anything “new” in these images, it’s all stuff we’ve seen before in one form or another.

    I think blizzard are fully aware of how whelmed/disappointed the community reaction would be if they revealed an expansion that’s entire premise is basically just “here’s some stuff you’ve seen before but just a different colour”.



    Do people actually think that thing looks legit? It’s literally an ogre’s head placed on top of a mok’nathal’s body with a dwarf’s beard glued onto its face. I can’t be the only one who thinks it looks awful?
    Its not so much the website leak with a beard, its the fact that the one with the beard was on the website AND one with identical markings showed up in the background of the screenshot.

  3. #45263
    Quote Originally Posted by JMitchy96 View Post
    I wasn’t trying to imply that blizzard have never reused assets, I’m simply pointing out the fact that generally, in trailers and promotional images, they try to showcase new assets/material as the focus, rather than simple reskins/edits like we’re seeing here. We don’t see anything “new” in these images, it’s all stuff we’ve seen before in one form or another.

    I think blizzard are fully aware of how whelmed/disappointed the community reaction would be if they revealed an expansion that’s entire premise is basically just “here’s some stuff you’ve seen before but just a different colour”.
    But like I said in my last post. If you cherry pick out screenshots from any Overview trailer you get the same reaction.

    Rather than assume its fake because reused assets maybe assume its real and there is more you are not seeing.

    To reiterate though. I am 50/50 on this leak. Im not dying to defend it, although I will defend its merits as a leak because we have now quoted eachother back & forth twice talking about it. Can't say the same for some of these other leaks.

  4. #45264
    Quote Originally Posted by KayRule View Post
    The fact that the oldest object in the image, which if using the existing old model would really show it's age and tip off it's fake, is so far in the background, and the images are so small to begin with to help obscure any off details should really be setting off alarm bells.
    Plus the fact that anyone who’s capable of creating/photoshopping custom models/assets like the dwarf and ogre-thing would likely be more than capable of doing a pseudo-upscale of old assets themselves. At the very least they could give the object a more crisp texture.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paula Deen View Post
    But like I said in my last post. If you cherry pick out screenshots from any Overview trailer you get the same reaction.

    Rather than assume its fake because reused assets maybe assume its real and there is more you are not seeing.

    To reiterate though. I am 50/50 on this leak. Im not dying to defend it, although I will defend its merits as a leak because we have now quoted eachother back & forth twice talking about it. Can't say the same for some of these other leaks.
    I’m absolutely in agreement with you there, it’s a very well made leak. If it does turn out to be real though, I will be disappointed personally.

  5. #45265
    Quote Originally Posted by JMitchy96 View Post
    Plus the fact that anyone who’s capable of creating/photoshopping custom models/assets like the dwarf and ogre-thing would likely be more than capable of doing a pseudo-upscale of old assets themselves. At the very least they could give the object a more crisp texture.
    Creating the custom asset of the ogre thing would be crazy. It has custom textures wrapped around the body, had different customizations (seemingly) between the bearded one and the one in the background, they both were wearing different armor pieces, and the one in the screenshot has full animations and was mid-combat with a harpie.

    Edit: Not fully animted, but posed. Sorry!
    Last edited by kavikor; 2023-11-01 at 03:57 AM.

  6. #45266
    Quote Originally Posted by kavikor View Post
    Creating the custom asset of the ogre thing would be crazy. It has custom textures wrapped around the body, had different customizations (seemingly) between the bearded one and the one in the background, they both were wearing different armor pieces, and the one in the screenshot has full animations and was mid-combat with a harpie.
    It's impossible to tell if it has full animations on account of it not being animated.

  7. #45267
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferlion View Post
    It's impossible to tell if it has full animations on account of it not being animated.
    You're right, I shouldn't have said that, it was posed rather.

  8. #45268
    Quote Originally Posted by kavikor View Post
    Its not so much the website leak with a beard, its the fact that the one with the beard was on the website AND one with identical markings showed up in the background of the screenshot.
    But all that proves is that the same person made both leaks.

  9. #45269
    If we got a new class, I'd love for it to be Runemaster or Tinker!

    That said, I feel like we're probably do for a no class expac this time, but probably new Specs for existing. Maybe just 2-3 at the start but the promise of a few more through out. I think Augvokers release mid-expansion was a nice surprise and the concept and idea of a brand new spec coming about was well received.

  10. #45270
    Quote Originally Posted by JMitchy96 View Post
    But all that proves is that the same person made both leaks.
    It could prove that, or it could prove that both leaks are 100% real.

    There's not really any way to disprove it. All we have is gut feelings, and it's valid to think its fake. I just don't think saying, "I can't believe you actually think this is still real" is going to change any minds.

    Nothing will change minds until Friday or until the person who made the leaks comes out and says, "This is fake, here's how I did it"

  11. #45271
    Quote Originally Posted by JMitchy96 View Post
    But all that proves is that the same person made both leaks.
    Not only that but the website leak was weeks and weeks beforehand, more than enough time to integrate if not. Also so far away, in such a small image, it's easy to dismiss as something else if the website leaker came out and admitted there's was a fake. Also at the same time, the Khaz Algar dwarfs look completely different from the website to the "trailer" images.

  12. #45272
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    And they have certainly something up in store for Classic. If the next expansion is some kind of asspull Avaloren trash, there’s still the next iteration of Classic (SoM) or even Cataclysm coming (Cataclysm right at launch was amazing with the very hard heroic dungeons and one of the best new dungeon slates in general - the launch raids were great, too).
    I mean, obviously players are a lot smarter than they were 10 years ago during Cata's launch. We're not dealing with "Wrath babies" anymore, especially since the new crowd prefers a much harder game.

    Wrath Classic did introduce the Titan Rune system with catch up mechanics along with making the dungeons harder.. my question is would Blizzard continue that system into Cata Classic even with the original Heroic dungeons from launch?

  13. #45273
    Quote Originally Posted by kavikor View Post
    It could prove that, or it could prove that both leaks are 100% real.

    There's not really any way to disprove it. All we have is gut feelings, and it's valid to think its fake. I just don't think saying, "I can't believe you actually think this is still real" is going to change any minds.

    Nothing will change minds until Friday or until the person who made the leaks comes out and says, "This is fake, here's how I did it"
    The website leak is fake. Littered with numerous spelling and grammer, as well as horrible run on sentences that would never be ad copy on a website selling a product.

  14. #45274
    Quote Originally Posted by KayRule View Post
    Not only that but the website leak was weeks and weeks beforehand, more than enough time to integrate if not. Also so far away, in such a small image, it's easy to dismiss as something else if the website leaker came out and admitted there's was a fake. Also at the same time, the Khaz Algar dwarfs look completely different from the website to the "trailer" images.
    Yeah, but that may also not be the playable race thats in the image.

    I never thought it was. That thing has giant fist claws that would get in the way of every piece of gear.

  15. #45275
    Quote Originally Posted by kavikor View Post
    It could prove that, or it could prove that both leaks are 100% real.

    There's not really any way to disprove it. All we have is gut feelings, and it's valid to think its fake. I just don't think saying, "I can't believe you actually think this is still real" is going to change any minds.

    Nothing will change minds until Friday or until the person who made the leaks comes out and says, "This is fake, here's how I did it"
    You are right. I would personally be very disappointed, at least at first. We’ll just have to wait and see! Edit: also, apologies if I came across as rude/condescending with my posts. Was certainly not my intention!

    Quote Originally Posted by KayRule View Post
    Not only that but the website leak was weeks and weeks beforehand, more than enough time to integrate if not. Also so far away, in such a small image, it's easy to dismiss as something else if the website leaker came out and admitted there's was a fake. Also at the same time, the Khaz Algar dwarfs look completely different from the website to the "trailer" images.
    Indeed, that certainly threw me off. Either they’re supposed to be different things, or that creature got a massive redesign in a very short timeframe!

  16. #45276
    Quote Originally Posted by KayRule View Post
    If we got a new class, I'd love for it to be Runemaster or Tinker!

    That said, I feel like we're probably do for a no class expac this time, but probably new Specs for existing. Maybe just 2-3 at the start but the promise of a few more through out. I think Augvokers release mid-expansion was a nice surprise and the concept and idea of a brand new spec coming about was well received.
    Much as I want a new class, we're still trying to recuperate from Augmentation being added in.. and there are still several other specs that probably in a dire need of changes in the next expansion.

    So, I doubt we'll get a new class until they fix a lot of issues that other classes are going through.... Remember, it wasn't until 10.1 that they had to completely rework paladins and later on Mages.. and now they're doing reworks for Demon Hunters and Rogues for 10.2

  17. #45277
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    There is no standard major content patch in the form of 10.3 (meaning new huge raid, new zone / revamped zones, new gameplay mechanic).
    These aren't the staples of a major patch. All a patch needs to be a major patch is a raid with more than 6 bosses. Remember Uldir? That was a full raid tier & sesson.

  18. #45278
    Quote Originally Posted by KayRule View Post
    The website leak is fake. Littered with numerous spelling and grammer, as well as horrible run on sentences that would never be ad copy on a website selling a product.
    It certainly could be fake. I only saw the 'defence' argument, which isn't really enough to convince me at this stage.

    I don't mind either way, but most people seem to want it to be fake, and I hope the expac pleases as many of us that it can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    These aren't the staples of a major patch. All a patch needs to be a major patch is a raid with more than 6 bosses. Remember Uldir? That was a full raid tier & sesson.
    Uldir was the launch raid not a patch.

    We haven’t had a major patch with just a raid since Ulduar or Toc if you don’t count the world content.
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  20. #45280
    Quote Originally Posted by KayRule View Post
    The fact that the oldest object in the image, which if using the existing old model would really show it's age and tip off it's fake, is so far in the background, and the images are so small to begin with to help obscure any off details should really be setting off alarm bells.
    I cant remember who did it but someone did a more in depth comparison and apparently it doesnt line up with the Aerie Peak statue something about the chest.


    EDIT: Found it:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nize View Post
    I took another look to at the Aerie Peak bird statue and compared again to the "leak". They don't really match. Some of the things I've noticed are:

    -Wings are further back in the "leak" statue than the Peak one
    -Head is held higher while Peak one is somewhat looking down.
    -Chest is lower in the "leak" than the peak.
    -Neckline creates a V in the "leak" while it's straighter in the peak.
    -Slightly longer beak in the "leak". Even trying all angles around the peak doesn't reach that length. Image CAN be stretched though, so I wouldn't put stock into this point.
    -Different feather texturing especially around the arm(wing?)pit area.

    I don't think it's the same statue. it doesn't mean it's not fake, but the statue came from somewhere else.

    Also, has the animal model in the 4th pic been found yet?
    Last edited by justwatching; 2023-11-01 at 04:18 AM.

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