1. #45361
    Just thinking that Shadowlands really missed the opportunity to build the covenants system into something like

    WoW: Titanforged
    Pledge yourself to a covenant: Death, Life, Order, Disorder, gain new abilities and stories.

  2. #45362
    Quote Originally Posted by vintage79 View Post
    RTS (genre) is very difficult to monetize.
    Ofcourse, experts like (blizzard) can do their best on this topic

    Ofcourse, it is also a great opportunity to wrapup the plot and move forward (Very Strong IP)

    however, warcraft 3: refunded messed things up 'a bit'
    They could start with bringing back Starcraft, maybe with a mobile game on the side and then fixing WC3: Reforged. Then do WC4 in the future if they have success with SC.

  3. #45363
    Quote Originally Posted by Woke it Up View Post
    Just thinking that Shadowlands really missed the opportunity to build the covenants system into something like

    WoW: Titanforged
    Pledge yourself to a covenant: Death, Life, Order, Disorder, gain new abilities and stories.
    To be honest Blizz tried but people didn't like it, vehemently i dare say

  4. #45364
    Yeah, and Blizzcon also had Weird Al before and last year was Electronic music, so might as well nip the "old WoW vs new WoW" stuff in the bud right now.

  5. #45365


    and about this 'leak'

    it's so meh dat could be true but:
    horde cap in stratholme - no way
    ow1 back? and blizz admiting to fail - even more no way
    bard class - n/c

  6. #45366
    Quote Originally Posted by vintage79 View Post
    wwooooah



    it seems dat pillows gona be mandatory on this year blizzcon

    jezz
    Blizzard went from Rock to K-Pop. On the other hand I think they're trying to copy Riot. But then again, you need have a good game first. People would appreciate this more if Overwatch wasn't in the gutter right now.

  7. #45367
    Isnt OW still very popular in Korea?

  8. #45368
    Hold on, in what world is Overwatch dead?

  9. #45369
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Hold on, in what world is Overwatch dead?
    In no world. Overwatch is just not as successful as it could be but good content will bring it back up in a moment (and if they actually could pull of a proper PvE campaign that isn't released sporadically, they'd be printing money with it).

    Heck even if Overwatch the game does, Overwatch pron will live forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woke it Up View Post
    OG Overwatch showed that they are able to somewhat quietly put a quality team together. Right now Microsoft has signalled that Blizzard have somewhat free reign to pursue projects they want.


    Im not really sure about that first statement, wasn't OG Overwatch just cobbled up from the failed MMO Project Titan that they did, and it turned out to be a success. I would more say that it managed to breach the market at the time and did much better than they expected. And not that they were looking to make a team that will make the best next gen (at the time) shooter.
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  11. #45371
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Hold on, in what world is Overwatch dead?
    Not dead, but it's quite messy. Almost as controversial as Diablo 4, and that is very much alive as well.

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    I think with K-Pop Overwatch 2 collaboration for the ending ceremony every leak dooming about Overwatch would be fake.
    Scrapping OW2 is just a wishful thinking. It seems Blizzard are willing to commit to it even if its a failure. Corpos dont like to admit mistakes. Disney and SW is similar case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    These were made with zero in-engine work or sandboxing or whatever, using stable diffusion with a LoRA trained for about 5 minutes on 24 WoW screenshots I pulled from google. I generated maybe 30 images before I had a decent and interesting set to use.

    Bottom two are complete untouched from their generated form (besides cropping). Top left has a lamp dropped in but is otherwise unmodified. Top right has five existing models photoshopped in, as well as some minor fixes to clear up stuff that was more obviously strange looking in the generated picture. All those existing assets were just screenshotted from model viewer, so they're 2D pictures layered on top.

    Entire thing, start (from finishing SD install and looking up how to train the LoRA) to finish was about an hour and a half).

    This is why I suggested that those original four pictures could be AI bashed with assets. It's very easy to just generate what will look like a screenshot with AI and then spruce it up a bit if you know what you are doing.
    This is some good stuff. Agree with you on the part that I bolded; they most likely used AI for the general shape of the landscape and then added the other assets on top using something like Photoshop. The other zone screenshot that was shared yesterday was probably made entirely using a custom LoRA.

  14. #45374
    Quote Originally Posted by Woke it Up View Post
    OG Overwatch showed that they are able to somewhat quietly put a quality team together. Right now Microsoft has signalled that Blizzard have somewhat free reign to pursue projects they want.
    OG Overwatch was the best minds in Blizzard working for nearly a decade on Titan, failing and then salvaging what they made to create Overwatch

  15. #45375
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Microsoft DOES RTS though. They did Age of Empires 4 and have supported it. If you buy the WC and SC IPs and you have RTS talent in your team (Blizzard probably has almost none left by now) why not do sequels for two of the biggest RTS franchises ever.
    That's all true, and I'm actually hopeful that we'll get a new Warcraft RTS or Starcraft eventually, but I don't see that happening anywhere near soon enough to reveal this year unless it's just a quick tease that they plan to start work on it.

    I do think we'll probably hear about that Warcraft 3 Reforged relaunch that they had surveys on a while back though. Though I am skeptical that they'll actually manage to fix that mess.
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  16. #45376
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    In no world. Overwatch is just not as successful as it could be but good content will bring it back up in a moment (and if they actually could pull of a proper PvE campaign that isn't released sporadically, they'd be printing money with it).

    Heck even if Overwatch the game does, Overwatch pron will live forever.
    Honestly, the PvE missions we got were pretty good.

    The only issue that we only got three missions in the last 6 months and the pricing is... not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuami View Post
    I always have to turn off Twitch and Youtube chat when I watch anything game reveal related, Youtube is the worst; dead game, L game, 1998 game.
    Tip: you can have great experience on twitch - just pick smaller streamer and engage in discussion there. Not everything is dogshit experience like Asmon chat. There are also 5k-10k streamers that builded solid community.

  18. #45378
    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    I think with K-Pop Overwatch 2 collaboration for the ending ceremony every leak dooming about Overwatch would be fake.
    Scrapping OW2 is just a wishful thinking. It seems Blizzard are willing to commit to it even if its a failure. Corpos dont like to admit mistakes. Disney and SW is similar case.
    Why would they scrap OW2 lmao.

    How is it a failure? It's literally just an update for OW1.

  19. #45379
    Another 4chan leak , this one is also a bit on the weird side
    https://imgur.com/a/vZ479V7

  20. #45380
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Honestly, the PvE missions we got were pretty good.

    The only issue that we only got three missions in the last 6 months and the pricing is... not good.
    I mean the PvE missions are clearly the content they have managed to salvage from what they were actually making. And now they will release it piecemail and charge an arm and a leg for it. That is no way to experience a story.

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