The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[kavikor]

Aggramar was a shadow of his former self, he was the first to die (literally got cleaved in half) and the first to break after Sargeras captured his soul and tormented him into submission.

We also had the most powerful artifacts mortals had ever wielded to defeat him.

[Well Done Steak]

So if it is karesh then I feel like ethereal are a given. I hope they're neutral but would probably be alliance because of velves.

In that case, hope horde gets ogres.

[Jaggler]

We already had something bigger then the titans with the void lords and presumed light lords, size ain’t the issue.

The issue is discarding or retconning years of established lore and build up based around the titans for a shit idea that came out of no where and is now suppose to be above them and every other powe we have been interacting with since WC2.

What got retconned by the First Ones existing?

[Neoplanet]

The binary stuff, all together, seems too good to be true.

But it would certainly get WoW back on track.

For me , if the avaloren pictures is a well done fake , its the shadows of azeroth or the binary

The idea of revamp + khaz algar as a Max level zone seens possible

[Zankai27]

See what I wanna know is how Ka'resh fits into Khaz Algar/Avaloren and Earthen as a race?

[lostsoup]

Binary leak doesn't actually have K'aresh, it was a lead towards removing transmog restrictions.

It'd be a solid expansion all things considered.

[The Stormbringer]

You're really just taking issue with the chicken or egg thought experiment: Everything has a creator. There is always something higher up, and fantasy & science fiction always has to address that eventually.

Except... not really? In the previous lore, before the First Ones came around, the universe came about from Light and Void clashing.

This may be inaccurate, but if I recall, at first there was nothing. Then Light came into being. Light's existence created shadows for the first time, which coalesced into Void. Light and Shadow smashed into each other and the resultant explosion created The Great Dark Beyond, AKA the physical universe, alongside Arcane magic and the Twisting Nether which was a sort of twisted (heh) mirror reality, which came with Chaos magic.

You don't need a creator, sometimes thing can just happen.

[micwini]

See what I wanna know is how Ka'resh fits into Khaz Algar/Avaloren and Earthen as a race?

I would say, if it is real (probably not) as patch content.

[Zankai27]

Binary leak doesn't actually have K'aresh, it was a lead towards removing transmog restrictions.

It'd be a solid expansion all things considered.

Ah, right on, that's my confusion then. Thanks

[Xennethia]

The binary stuff, all together, seems too good to be true.

But it would certainly get WoW back on track.

What's the binary stuff?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

You're really just taking issue with the chicken or egg thought experiment: Everything has a creator. There is always something higher up, and fantasy & science fiction always has to address that eventually.

We already had a source for every thing, we didn’t need the hacks trying to one up the those who came before them by pulling the first ones out of no where with how build up.

[lostsoup]

What's the binary stuff?

Leak with riddles hidden in binary. Stormforged Earthen race, Artificer class, transmog restrictions removed, a world revamp, void stuff is involved, and Path of the Titans as a new system.

[vintage79]

We also had the most powerful artifacts mortals had ever wielded to defeat him.

maybe we will use shadowflame to reignite this ol' sword and instead of azerite we will collect shadowlame

[Zankai27]

We already had a source for every thing, we didn’t need the hacks trying to one up the those who came before them by pulling the first ones out of no where with how build up.

No we didn't; we had "There was nothing and then there was Light and Void, somehow Titans hatched from planets."

[PotHockets]

So if it is karesh then I feel like ethereal are a given. I hope they're neutral but would probably be alliance because of velves.

In that case, hope horde gets ogres.

I feel like there's no shot that Ethereals wouldn't be neutral they're just too popular to give to one faction unless Blizz finally does the smart thing and gets rid of factions in gameplay.

Assuming that they are an Alliance race because Velves and Locus Walker and Alleria though then I bet Horde would get Arrakoa.

[Sondrelk]

The binary stuff, all together, seems too good to be true.

But it would certainly get WoW back on track.

It's not even "too good to be true" from what I am seeing. But rather more that it conveniently haas everything people were talking excitedly about.

[Wangming]

"You solved the riddle, i tried a little harder, but am not good with them. You have Khaz Algar, Titanforged Earthen Artificers, Void involved, Path of the Titans, World Revamp, and Transmog all armor types."

Too good to be true, IMO. Earthen instead of Ethereals would be odd, considering the overall theme.

I'm inclined to give it the benefit of doubt. Earthen and Atificers are different than what is normally put on expansion wish lists. Hell the world revamp is the only real buzzword it uses. No player housing or any evergreen feature mentioned. This doesn't strike me as a wishlist.

[Varodoc]

Avaloren doesn't make sense as the next expansion.

Underground expansion with Khaz Algar as Main capital, Earthen as new race, and Old Gods/Xal'atath as Main antagonists makes way more sense.

[milkmustache]

https://imgur.com/a/xTdc2hM

Here's all the text for the new weapons

Wait.. is the Grand Design being retconned for Titans? (Big hell yea if we're looking away from the First Ones)

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Sure, if you just really think the Titans need to be the end-all-be-all.

I literally just mentions further off “ends” in the post you quoted with the void/light lords and laid out that my problem isn’t that things are above the titans but that they have no build up yet are suppose to be above every thing we have had since before wow.