The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Vakir]

Did binary guy confirm or deny dynamic flying in Azeroth revamp? Seems like a given but, y'know.

[doledippers]

been refreshing this page for the last day or two every so often, looks like classic[.]blizzard[.]com got registered/renewed today. kinda interesting.

https://crt.sh/?q=.blizzard.com

[Well Done Steak]

Binary leak doesn't actually have K'aresh, it was a lead towards removing transmog restrictions.

It'd be a solid expansion all things considered.

What about that hint with the DeviantArt pic? What happened to that.

Seems like sus timing with the yellow text for the TP staff that straight up mentions Dimensius

[vintage79]

Did binary guy confirm or deny dynamic flying in Azeroth revamp? Seems like a given but, y'know.

what about flyin in GhostLANDS

[Cheezits]

Wait.. is the Grand Design being retconned for Titans? (Big hell yea if we're looking away from the First Ones)

They will probably just have it be "the titans like the first ones the most and are copying them" and leave it at that. Or they are reincarnations.

[Wangming]

what about flyin in GhostLANDS

What about the droid attack on the Wookiees?

[Cheezits]

been refreshing this page for the last day or two every so often, looks like classic[.]blizzard[.]com got registered/renewed today. kinda interesting.

https://crt.sh/?q=.blizzard.com

Classic WoW confirmed?!

[Zankai27]

I literally just mentions further off “ends” in the post you quoted with the void/light lords and laid out that my problem isn’t that things are above the titans but that they have no build up yet are suppose to be above every thing we have had since before wow.

And? Who cares about that? It's literally just macro-world building. Stuff like that doesn't need buildup. That's not how that kind of storytelling works. It's a hook to create a sense of scale and mystery beyond what we currently know. (And that includes the Voidlords)

Wait.. is the Grand Design being retconned for Titans? (Big hell yea if we're looking away from the First Ones)

Why would it? The Titans are literally beings who think their design *is* the grand design. That's all this is.

The First Ones aren't that offensive for fuck sake

[lostsoup]

been refreshing this page for the last day or two every so often, looks like classic[.]blizzard[.]com got registered/renewed today. kinda interesting.

https://crt.sh/?q=.blizzard.com

They're finally bringing 2004 Blizzard back???

[Xilurm]

Who is Dimensius again?

[Cheezits]

The First Ones aren't a force of Order...

Please stop thinking like this.

Except they are all about creating orderly interplanar systems, like the Shadowlands/Lifelands anima pipeline, and control things with robots programmed to do certain tasks. Even if they aren't Inherent Order/Arcane like Titans they do very very similar things.

They also have (probably intentionally) similar aesthetics.

[Worldshaper]

Avaloren doesn't make sense as the next expansion.

Underground expansion with Khaz Algar as Main capital, Earthen as new race, and Old Gods/Xal'atath as Main antagonists makes way more sense.

I don't think you can disconnect Khaz Algar from Avaloren at this point.

Avaloren is somewhere other than Ancient Kalimdor, check.

Khaz Algar is very far away from Uldaman, check.

Erinethria flew west to another land not on Ancient Kalimdor, beyond storms, check.

Khaz Algar has Stormriders, check.

Edit:

That said, since Khaz Modan is the name of an entire kingdom or subcontinent, it is possible Khaz Algar is as well. It might not be a city, as people like to believe. If this is the case, then it might indeed be separate from Avaloren. Perhaps they are both simply continents behind the Storming Sea.

[Marlamin]

been refreshing this page for the last day or two every so often, looks like classic[.]blizzard[.]com got registered/renewed today. kinda interesting.

https://crt.sh/?q=.blizzard.com

It's been getting renewed around this time every year since 2017 -- probably not super interesting either way.

[The Stormbringer]

The First Ones aren't a force of Order...

Please stop thinking like this.

I mean, if they're building machinery to create an afterlife, and there's other "Zereths", it indicates that they are indeed putting a certain amount of Order into everything. Their own order.

[Zankai27]

Who is Dimensius again?

The Void Lord responsible for the destruction of Ka'resh, the Etehereal Homeworld. We fight him in BC

Seemingly, what we fight in BC was just an echo of his actual Void Lord form, though

I mean, if they're building machinery to create an afterlife, and there's other "Zereths", it indicates that they are indeed putting a certain amount of Order into everything. Their own order.

It's true, but there's also a kind of "order" in that way to Void society. I think the main difference is the First Ones don't use explicitly Order magic, which IS an established thing. And the Titans do.

[milkmustache]

No? Could just be that the Titans are following the Design, or are simply calling their design "the grand design". Reminder, they did call the Forge in Uldum "The Forge of Origination", while the Progenitors' machine at the Sepulcher is called "the Machine of Origination".

That's true too. I wonder what the correlation between Titans and First Ones is truly. I wasn't the biggest fan of the idea of the First Ones, so simplifying it as the Titans, or something Order adjacent would be interesting.

Why would it? The Titans are literally beings who think their design *is* the grand design. That's all this is.

The First Ones aren't that offensive for fuck sake

I mean, agree to disagree. I'm just not a huge fan of the First Ones idea and the way it was presented in Shadowlands, so adjustments to make them more Titan aligned is something I find more interesting! It's all personal opinion

[bruxx]

Any source for this? Just curious and would like to see.

Urghh been searching a bit, but can't track back the source, I'm fairly certain it was Ion explaining in an interview that originally they knew that they wanted dragons, but "none of the classes made sense" and from there, they came up with Evoker. I hope I didn`t deform some memory in my head.

[PFKlax]

Who is Dimensius again?

The void lord that destroyed K'aresh.

[vintage79]

Who is Dimensius again?

some shady shadow guy

[Valysar]

Who is Dimensius again?

https://www.wowhead.com/npc=19554/di...-all-devouring
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Dim..._All-Devouring