The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nerdslime]

Well, fellow speculation thread nerds, it's a wrap for me tonight as well. See you in the morning for Maximum Hype!

[KayRule]

though DF cinematic was good untill dragons arrived and turned it into true 12+ game with waterfalls, rainbows and sparkles.

if you weren't hardcore raider/m+ pusher/gladiator level player that have to farm azerite 24/7 to compete - BFA was great. It was a bit buggy at the start of the addon and Azerite gear was kinda uninspiring at the start(there was a lot of feedback on beta about that). I'd say Expeditions failed miserably(locations were beautiful though), Warfronts were okeish but everything else was alright. Corruption was hillarious, i loved it.

[Itsgotime]

Interesting you think thats a deliberate gap. Its 45 min they could definitely fit a panel there but its tight...the other panels all have 15 min gaps between them. But that would then mean a 30 min panel that seems rather unlikely.

I’d have to check the schedule again, but did the first panel after the opening ceremony previously have a 15 min gap?
Maybe the “surprise” reveal goes last at the ceremony, and they stay to transition the panel after a brief interlude?

If not, I think they could do roughly an hour opening ending at 12. Then start a panel at 12:15 - go to 1:15 - clear out for Wow at 1:30.
I just thought the hour and a half gap was strange.

[Jaggler]

Last 11 Hours, nothing new. I feel like if DF is starting a chain of "true sequels", as much as I personally hate touting Content Creator stuff, I just had a Bellular Video on my YT recommended that kinda got me thinking just a little bit. We supposedly 'stopped' Nozdormu turning into Murozond with Dawn, but what if all we stopped was basically him turning at the wrong, fuck, maybe even 'right' time? Not even 40 seconds in, there's the whole Murozond line from End Time "You know not what you have done. Aman'thul... What I... have... seen.." - And we're at a point where it's clearly framing the Titans as not as "morally white" as they were portrayed for a while. I guess in a way even back then the Line would've been read more akin to him pleading to Aman'thul as he's dying. What if that isn't the case and they are turning the intent of that death quote into a different direction?

I mean, titans weren't being portrayed as "morally white" since at least Ulduar. It's one of those weird misconceptions that the Titans were some kind of ultimately benevolent force, that would do no harm until very recently.

[RigidCannibal]

I mean, titans weren't being portrayed as "morally white" since at least Ulduar. It's one of those weird misconceptions that the Titans were some kind of ultimately benevolent force, that would do no harm until very recently.

I kind of blame Legion for that misconception, even though we barely interact with them beyond a desperate team up to stop Argus and Sargeras

[whoisqnx]

im still wondering if the Titans know of what Zovaal was upto or if they even know about that Pantheon. Was this ever adressed?

[RigidCannibal]

im still wondering if the Titans know of what Zovaal was upto or if they even know about that Pantheon. Was this ever adressed?

We haven't really had a way to find out. I would love if it's lampshaded later that, yes, they were aware he was up to something and thought he was woefully beneath their notice.

[Luxu]

Time to leave the thread, leaks that late would just end up killing the hype. Have a good day, and a good BlizzCon, everyone!

[justwatching]

I’d have to check the schedule again, but did the first panel after the opening ceremony previously have a 15 min gap?
Maybe the “surprise” reveal goes last at the ceremony, and they stay to transition the panel after a brief interlude?

If not, I think they could do roughly an hour opening ending at 12. Then start a panel at 12:15 - go to 1:15 - clear out for Wow at 1:30.
I just thought the hour and a half gap was strange.

Possible but then why schedule the longer ceremony in the first place. They also have streamers scheduled during that time.

[Delever]

Well.... It's gonna be hard to work today chaps that's all I m gonna say

[Auxis]

im still wondering if the Titans know of what Zovaal was upto or if they even know about that Pantheon. Was this ever adressed?

Well, we know at least 1 Keeper was aware of the Shadowlands and was able to contact and deal with Zovaal (Odyn gave his eye to Zovaal in exchange for... I think the knowledge to create Val'kyr?). Don't know if that knowledge was passed up the ladder.

[Woggmer]

Nothing of substance the last 40 pages?

Just a matter of waiting for the reveal... and honestly pretty much most, if not, all the leaks don't seem plausible or legitimate to me. Not even the 4 screenshots.

The only ones I might consider plausible is either the Shadows Over Azeroth leak from Ironwasher.

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or this one called Beyond the Storming Sea.

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But even I have heavy doubts on both........

[Melorandor]

I hope its "Rift of Aln"

[Dnusha]

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i know this is wow youtuber but i've never seen any of his videos, so i guess whatever you implied just flew above my head.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Morning leakers and leakbusters! What's new since last evening?

[lostsoup]

Morning leakers and leakbusters! What's new since last evening?

Somehow, nothing! We're less than 12 hours away and there's been no leaks. I'm hoping it stays that way until the reveal, honestly.

[Fahrad Wagner]

In a cannonball?

YES! Exactly!

Somehow, nothing! We're less than 12 hours away and there's been no leaks. I'm hoping it stays that way until the reveal, honestly.

Then we have two possibilities: either one of the leaks that already came out is true and we're in denial (if I had to put my money on something it'd be iron's leak) OR Blizz has been very good at keeping the secret.

In any case there is no way it doesn't leak 1-2 hours prior to announcement. Be prepared my friends! Our long wait is coming to an end

[KurtMash]

Just a matter of waiting for the reveal... and honestly pretty much most, if not, all the leaks don't seem plausible or legitimate to me. Not even the 4 screenshots.

The only ones I might consider plausible is either the Shadows Over Azeroth leak from Ironwasher.

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or this one called Beyond the Storming Sea.

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But even I have heavy doubts on both........

Unrelated question, but I always wondered - how to add hidden spoiler blocks like these?

[Hitei]

Schreier said its not getting announced this year and they dont really have any free panel spots for it. When they announced OW there were gaps in the schedule and they had the demo areas covered.

I think they are just very confident in the Warcraft news and obviously Metzen will be on stage.

Shrug. Doesn't need separate panels or a demo if all they're doing is showing a cinematic, some gameplay and talking a bit about it.

Interesting you think thats a deliberate gap. Its 45 min they could definitely fit a panel there but its tight...the other panels all have 15 min gaps between them. But that would then mean a 30 min panel that seems rather unlikely.

On the current schedule for virtual, the gap between opening ceremonies and WoW is listed as:


In previous years, the gap after opening ceremonies was 30 min, not 45. Who knows.

[Nimerion]

Good morning.

I'm so excited. Hope for an exciting cinematic.