The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Berkilak]

Ok, i'm not saying that nobody was expecting a void servant to appear, i'm saying its funny that most people, on twitter, reddit, here and the forums just kinda took that specific NPC at face value, to be some sort of Simulacrum like Sindragosa or residual essence/echo like the Shade of Medivh/Echo of Aegwynn etc.

No fucking shit that inside a void raid, about a void servant, around void related enemies, with a void related final boss is gonna have void spawn in it.
The mere inclussion of a faceless one wasn't what was surprising to me.

I suppose I never thought about the lore behind it. I just figured they wanted to put Deathwing into their Deathwing raid and whatever flimsy excuse they used to do so would be an immaterial justification. Which it is.

[Sondrelk]

Ok, i'm not saying that nobody was expecting a void servant to appear, i'm saying its funny that most people, on twitter, reddit, here and the forums just kinda took that specific NPC at face value, to be some sort of Simulacrum like Sindragosa or residual essence/echo like the Shade of Medivh/Echo of Aegwynn etc.

No fucking shit that inside a void raid, about a void servant, around void related enemies, with a void related final boss is gonna have void spawn in it.
The mere inclussion of a faceless one wasn't what was surprising to me.

Sure, you could have assumed that it was a void agent. But in an expansion that specifically has a Simulacrum, coupled with this literally being Neltharions private lab, I think it was a fair guess to assume that it wasn't more complicated than it seemed on the surface.

Why not assume ALL the bosses in the raid are voidspawn?

[Cheezits]

Also a sixth dragonriding mount got datamined, and the name may or may not be surprising.

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/16...C96aqRo_ItAAAA

[Berkilak]

Not a big shock honestly. Honestly kinda disappointed in myself for not thinking she would be a good candidate earlier than I did. It seems so obvious in hindsight.

Then again, maybe she won't be Aspect, and all of this is a weird diversion until she has her heroic sacrifice or whatever.

At least you considered her a compelling dark horse candidate a few days ago.

[Sondrelk]

Also a sixth dragonriding mount got datamined, and the name may or may not be surprising.

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/16...C96aqRo_ItAAAA

The fact that it's a Trading Post mount is surprising. I know it's most likely a placeholder, whether in name, description, or currency, but still.

I suppose it might be Blizzard making dragonriding mounts based on previous dragon models for some variety now that we can assume it will be a mainstay.

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At least you considered her a compelling dark horse candidate a few days ago.

Yeah, but that was about the first time i had considered it. Before then i just assumed Blizzard would have a coin toss between Wrathion and Sabellian.

[Nymrohd]

Also a sixth dragonriding mount got datamined, and the name may or may not be surprising.

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/16...C96aqRo_ItAAAA

Yes please! Hope the NPCs make a comeback as well.
Also they are technically black dragons.

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Not a big shock honestly. Honestly kinda disappointed in myself for not thinking she would be a good candidate earlier than I did. It seems so obvious in hindsight.

Then again, maybe she won't be Aspect, and all of this is a weird diversion until she has her heroic sacrifice or whatever.

My main throught process on this is that they introduced Dracthyr and Evokers together. Blizzard devs (sadly) prefer to work with a small roster of characters. So someone has to represent the Dracthyr in the plot. And the only option for that is Emberthal. So something needs to happen to elevate her so that she can stay relevant as things move on.

[Lady Atia]

The fact that it's a Trading Post mount is surprising. I know it's most likely a placeholder, whether in name, description, or currency, but still.

I suppose it might be Blizzard making dragonriding mounts based on previous dragon models for some variety now that we can assume it will be a mainstay.

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Yeah, but that was about the first time i had considered it. Before then i just assumed Blizzard would have a coin toss between Wrathion and Sabellian.

It looks like the netherdrake is a monthly reward and I'm just happy that it's a serperate mount rather then, lets say a Highland drake customization. Let's hope with dragonriding becoming evergreen going forward that the other full transformations get turned into their own mounts down the line too!

[Teriz]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/evoker-...poilers-332731

Is Augmentation Spec confirmed?

The more interesting question is why is this legendary hidden? The legendary Hunter
bow that Sylvanas dropped was not hidden in this fashion, and was quite visible throughout the 9.1 PTR.

[Sondrelk]

The more interesting question is why is this legendary hidden? The legendary Hunter
bow that Sylvanas dropped was not hidden in this fashion, and was quite visible throughout the 9.1 PTR.

For shock effect. Imagine the hype if noone figured this out until it actually dropped.

[Nymrohd]

Also I still find it completely ridiculous when Ion tells us how legendary weapons need to make sense and are iconic lore weapons when almost every one of them was completely made up on the spot when that patch was released and half of them have ZERO lore to them. Like Thori''dal and Raeshalare have NO lore. Valanyr has scarcely any lore (all we know about it is from the 2005 Annual, nothing is really in game). Shadowmourne, Tarecgosa and the Fangs of the Father are items we made during the story.

Heck Oathbinder is already in a much better place than almost any of them. It was featured prominently in a cinematic and then was an important part of the story in this patch.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Iconic is the wrong word, cool with some interesting lore is probably the better phrase go with. Cause iconic has a feeling of being around awhile a lot of these weapons like Nym poked at were new to us so thats not iconic.

[Nymrohd]

Iconic is the wrong word, cool with some interesting lore is probably the better phrase go with. Cause iconic has a feeling of being around awhile a lot of these weapons like Nym poked at were new to us so thats not iconic.

Some of them are not new to us. They are simply non entities. What the fuck was Rae'shalare? When did she get it? it has a better chance of getting lore by becoming a Hearthstone card than in WoW at this point.

[Cheezits]

Are the Blue Dragon and Tyr stories accessible yet?

[Sondrelk]

Some of them are not new to us. They are simply non entities. What the fuck was Rae'shalare? When did she get it? it has a better chance of getting lore by becoming a Hearthstone card than in WoW at this point.

What I always found funny is that the Hunter bow was legendary despite not having any prior lore, and really just being legendary because of the effect. Meanwhile the Rogue dagger also had a unique effect, and more crucially was used to kill Saurfang, making it more important in lore.

I can only assume they made a legendary bow on the sole basis that it was a hunter battle. Maybe if they made it a artifact skin for Thas'dorah in terms of design. Would certainly make more sense as a legendary.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Iridikron's gambit. I think Fyrakk really was thrown to the wolves here. Subtle messaging Blizz ;P

[Santandame]

Not like patches don't involve lore, either. The complaint doesn't even make sense as stated.

Yes, to discuss current and future patch content such as lore.

Not the lore content of an expansion that’s 4 fucking years old.

This thread is labelled as a future patches/expansion speculation thread. If you want to discuss the lore of a previous expansion then you are welcome to do so in a section of the forum that is designed and dedicated for that very purpose; as opposed to convoluting this thread with pages and pages of irrelevant posts when people are coming here to discuss and read up on what the actual title of the thread describes.

Also, in regards to the comment a few under yours stating that these threads have always been treated as an unofficial forum chat room - just because that’s how it’s always been used by the regulars of this thread, doesn’t make it right. This is the current and future patch/expansion speculation thread. People visiting this thread will be coming here primarily to discuss that, or read up on others doing the same. If you folk want an MMOC chat room to discuss whatever you please, then petition that to the mods of this site. Any other thread would be treated accordingly if the topic was derailed. Just because you lot unofficially treat this one as a chat room, doesn’t give you carte blanche to go against how everything else on this site is done - just because a select few regulars have determined that this thread is an unofficial chat room.

Now, on topic of future patch content. I had initially thought we’d end the expansion with Murozond as the end of expansion boss and his death cinematic would have been opening up a time portal to ancient Kalimdor that Azshara would hop through setting up the next expansion but with the news that the Bronze flight storyline takes place in the mega dungeon, that seems highly unlikely.

I imagine the final patch is the Earth Primal Aspect fusing with Gakakrond in some way, invading the dream with the help of the old gods and spreads death & decay there and we have to help out. Could give us a mini Emerald Dream continent too like Argus in Legion with three zones.

As for next expansion, I sadly don’t see a world revamp happening. Based off seeded flavour text in Dragonflight, I’m gonna place my bet on an expansion set on this Avaloren or we finally get Tel’Abim as a continent with some heavy Arabic vibes, as a stark contrast to the typical fantasy setting that Dragonflight is. Could possibly have Xal’atath getting up to something there in the background whilst primarily treating the expansion as a MoP sort of deal.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

This is actually quite hilarious.
Especially when literally nobody actually even considered that a possibility before.

I am extraordinarily shocked, and I am certain that everybody else is shocked, as well.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IXI9Ga5WUU&t=38s

Oh god I am right, Emberthal will be aspect.

That will be quite insufferable, but I trust in Blizzard's poor writing to lead to it.

[Teriz]

For shock effect. Imagine the hype if noone figured this out until it actually dropped.

I think more likely it’s tied to something in 10.1.5. We’re probably not going to get any info on this until 10.1.5 enters the PTR. I don’t think the legendary is tied to Sakareth’s loot in the raid, which is strange. This also appears to be separate from the specialization quest chain in 10.1 PTR.

[Berkilak]

I am extraordinarily shocked, and I am certain that everybody else is shocked, as well.

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That will be quite insufferable, but I trust in Blizzard's poor writing to lead to it.

I don’t mind Emberthal. Once I got over that conceptual revulsion to Dracthyr as a whole, she grew on me. It’s cheesy, but she has a sincerity to her that I enjoy. She has a definable personality, which is more than can be said of most WarCraft characters these days.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

The mole people are nice. I'll take Honeypelt over that irritating Goblin from Nazjatar.




I have never met this man in my life.

Sarkareth isn't a threatening villain when we get a cutscene of a girl stomping on his glove device.

Hated the gratuitous Emberthal wank and the constant putting down of Wrathion and Sabellian.

More fire Vrykul... *snore*




Ebyssian should have died, either from the impact of crashing into the earth or the profuse bleeding from the serrated spear being yanked out of his body.




The mole village should have been turned into a smoking crater. The scene doesn't have much impact when there are only five dead bodies and all of the other vendors are manning their stalls selling stuff like normal and the buildings are still intact, not even caved in.

Looks like after you return to Alexstraza the story becomes either timegated and/or locked behind another reputation grind.