The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Hitei]

1.15 is not som2.

Still think it's HD Classic.

[Beerplz]

If they didn't agree they probably shouldn't be pushing 1.15 builds to publicly visible patch endpoints since April of this year.

Let alone pushing it to PTR which they did yesterday, albeit without a public client yet.

We also had mm 2? 10.2 builds pushed yesterday , do we know what they were actually ?

[Thrillhouse918]

Happy BlizzCon fam. Home stretch now.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Still think it's HD Classic.

That would explain all the datamined assets.
And that would be pretty dope!

[Akatsui]

Day of Blizzcon is always special on these forums. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Then we hate the announcement.

Man it's always such a downer for me to see things instantly talk shit about things I think have potential and could be great lol. Hate the internet :P

[Amstrup]

Still think it's HD Classic.

I'm going with tbc classic, but without outlands and lvl 70.

[Itsgotime]

Personally I prefer the broader perspective; having what are virtually gods be purely benevolent feels lazy and unrealistic to me. There's no way deities would operate on the same moral framework as mortals, that's massively idealised.

Early WoW portrayed them very benevolently because in canon we basically only had the Dwarves as a source of information, and they revere the Titans so of course they seem super.

We're now in much closer proximity, and it makes sense for some of the veneer to fall off. Very 'don't meet your heroes' type stuff, because they're probably not everything you build them up to be. This tracks very closely to IRL mythological pantheons like the Olympians - Zeus for instance was a badass, but also a giant douche.

Ulimately a matter of personal preference in story telling though, so w/e.

In general, I agree. I think there should be good, bad, and in-between deities. It plays closer to real-world myth and folklore.

My main grievance with Wow was that they had established canon they ignored. Chronicles was meant as an objective account of the universe. In order to justify the new story direction they ignored previous work.

However, I would say that the moral framework of some deities (not all) and mortals wouldn’t be that distant. Deities in religion and myth bring/embody knowledge, ideals, morals etc. so their compass shouldn’t be that off from mankind. Just on a grander scale. Unless that is what you mean by framework.

[Akatsui]

That would explain all the datamined assets.
And that would be pretty dope!

Purists would burst in anger.

[Myrrh]

Man it's always such a downer for me to see things instantly talk shit about things I think have potential and could be great lol. Hate the internet :P

The doomposting before anything is even announced is what takes the cake for me. We have truly ascended.

[Hitei]

Blood must be sacrificed on the grave of our dear sweet Ocho so that they may live again.

Ocho was a false prophet and the reason we have no high end leaks. We should desecrate the grave as a sign of public disavowal.

[ercarp]

Then we hate the announcement.

I think I'll be okay with almost anything as long as those 4 screenshots don't turn out to be real, because that would be a very boring expansion (at least visually).

[Fahrad Wagner]

Purists would burst in anger.

sounds like a them problem hehehe

[Jaggler]

They skipped a few Seasons of Mastery. 1.15 is actually called Season of Mastery 8. OCHO.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Ocho was a false prophet and the reason we have no high end leaks. We should desecrate the grave as a sign of public disavowal.

Don't you dare ruin the memory of our sweet Ocho

[Shadochi]

I ain't got nothing for you, just wanted to say I love the fact you're still repping a swifty avatar. That was around Legion's leak/speculation thread no?

I think I created the Sailor Twyft avatar during the BfA hype thread (South Seas, pirates and stuff speculation) and have been using it ever since. Been quite a while

[Marlamin]

We also had mm 2? 10.2 builds pushed yesterday , do we know what they were actually ?

Last minute fixes incl. some fixes for the upcoming character boost, nothing huge.

[justwatching]

I'm going with tbc classic, but without outlands and lvl 70.

I think they would use 2.5 as a basis for that then. I personally dont think its anything special just more changes and fresh servers probably out in December since its clearly hitting PTR next week.

[FlemmMinis]

I think I created the Sailor Twyft avatar during the BfA hype thread (South Seas, pirates and stuff speculation) and have been using it ever since. Been quite a while

She's Our captain though

[Woggmer]

I mean, Odyn was created/imbued by Aman'thul.

That's what I'm saying, I have this idea that the Keepers are meant to emulate the Titans that created them... and if Odyn is a control freak, then Aman'thul is a total control freak as well. All the other titans might have some form of free-will, but Aman'thul is holding all the strings because he is the Highfather.

So, I have this theory that Aggramar (being the first to discover Azeroth and tried to convince the other titans to look into it) that when he created the Keepers, he created Tyr specifically to act as a fail safe in case Odyn goes haywire.

Due to the titans' colossal size, Aggramar feared that if the Pantheon were to take action directly, they would irrevocably damage, or even kill, the world-soul, and so instead he proposed the creation of the titan-forged to do battle in their stead. As the other members of the Pantheon imbued part of their powers into the keepers, the greatest of the titan-forged, Aggramar imparted his courage and strength to Tyr, who would become the greatest warrior of the titan-forged.

Out of all the titans, Aggramar (and by his extension, Tyr) cares more about Azeroth than any of the other titans. (Along with Eonar who seems more passionate about life.) Whereas Aman'thul (and by his extension, Odyn) care more for Order above anything else. So the idea that people believe ALL titans care about Order doesn't sit right with me.

[Fahrad Wagner]

I think I created the Sailor Twyft avatar during the BfA hype thread (South Seas, pirates and stuff speculation) and have been using it ever since. Been quite a while

it's history now :3 and iconic