The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Fahrad Wagner]

It sounds like he thinks the 'return' is time travel rather than modern day events taking place in those zones. Wild interpretation.

12.0 is the time travel bit from I gathered, 13.0 will be current but I only caught the Northrend revamp, not EK+Kalimdor.
Anyone who can correct me here please?

[Swnem]

I remember some posters saying how awful it would be to have an underground expansion. Since their imagination couldn't be counted on i hope they can now see that an underground expansion doesn't have to be dark and constraining.
We finally have some original zones. Good going by Blizz on this.

[Delever]

+10000

I've wanted a login screen overhaul for years, with a new way to see my characters. On top of that, all the account bound stuff. Frigging love it.

It also looks like a good way to help altoholics like me focus on a few important characters you care more about.

Ngl in general I was very pleasantly surprised with everything.... Didn't expect retail to outright farm Ws this blizzcon.

[Myrrh]

If there was ever a time for undermine it is now.

I'm sure it'll be a mega dungeon and or zone.

Alternative perspective, they're going to need 'normal' content once this massive world threat saga is over, particularly if a full world revamp (or even sequel) is on the cards. Undermine doesn't really fit in with the broader story they're putting forward here imo, but would work in like 14.0 or something.

[Amnaught]

Isle of Dorn is Khaz Algar. It says so on the website.

But is Khaz'Algar confirmed to be Avaloren, which is to the West?

[Osmeric]

The thing I can’t get over the most is the three day early access if you buy the epic edition. One of the best aspects of launch night was everyone shooting off and experiencing it all together. The anticipation and the buildup as the hours and then the minutes go down.

They really need to double back on that change as there is no defending that at all.

The most competitive players are being given the opportunity to demonstrate their value to Blizzard.

[Fahrad Wagner]

But is Khaz'Algar confirmed to be Avaloren, which is to the West?

No, Khaz Algar is an island off the western coast of Pandaria.

[Grimbold21]

Well that cinematic was top notch quality. Until Thrall came in, it felt like it was real.

Yearly but shorter expansions. Sagas...

Sniff, sniff, smells like a Total War like debacle in the making.

[NelfMohawk]

But is Khaz'Algar confirmed to be Avaloren, which is to the West?

No. They seem like very different places.

[Myrrh]

12.0 is the time travel bit from I gathered, 13.0 will be current but I only caught the Northrend revamp, not EK+Kalimdor.
Anyone who can correct me here please?

I'm still not seeing how time travel factors into this? 12.0 is void invasion centred around Quel'Thalas.

[Merryck]

I remember some posters saying how awful it would be to have an underground expansion. Since their imagination couldn't be counted on i hope they can now see that an underground expansion doesn't have to be dark and constraining.
We finally have some original zones. Good going by Blizz on this.

An underground civilisation illuminated by some massive light source is a great trope. Especially in the context of WoW.

[Cheezits]

I remember some posters saying how awful it would be to have an underground expansion. Since their imagination couldn't be counted on i hope they can now see that an underground expansion doesn't have to be dark and constraining.
We finally have some original zones. Good going by Blizz on this.

I mean, 2/4 are fairly underground, it's only the Arathi zone that is remotely Hollow Earth.

[Nymrohd]

The thing I can’t get over the most is the three day early access if you buy the epic edition. One of the best aspects of launch night was everyone shooting off and experiencing it all together. The anticipation and the buildup as the hours and then the minutes go down.

They really need to double back on that change as there is no defending that at all.

Early access needs to go to everyone who preorders imo

[Samin]

I'm very interested in warbands but how is it any different than just account wide everything??

Like visually, what is it? How does it differ than just logging on another toon?

They described it as basically a mantle for a bunch of changes that make things account wide. I guess the login screen is the biggest visual change but it's not the warband system itself, there won't be a "Warband UI"

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I'm very interested in warbands but how is it any different than just account wide everything??

Like visually, what is it? How does it differ than just logging on another toon?

They've said that it's a collection of different features, such as being able to collect transmogs of all armor types on a single character. Ie, you run through SoO on a warrior and you can get cloth, leather, and mail transmogs too (maybe even the specifically shaman exclusive Kor'Kron cosmetic armor set?).

[Kiivar86]

But is Khaz'Algar confirmed to be Avaloren, which is to the West?

Its never been confirmed, it was theorized but never confirmed and does not look to be the case.

[hattahat]

But when are those coming? If these are 3 and 5 years in the future, how much does it matter? World Revamp goes to 7 years then

I think the expansion release cadence will be shorter.
At 1.5 years per expansion, we can finish all 3 expansions in 5 years. I think we'll have 3 raid(tier)s like Dragonflight in the future.

[Dracullus]

But is Khaz'Algar confirmed to be Avaloren, which is to the West?

Nope. What's even stranger, Avaloren wasn't mentioned in any of these 3 expacs. Maybe it's just some big patch between now and 13.2.

I think the expansion release cadence will be shorter.
At 1.5 years per expansion, we can finish all 3 expansions in 5 years. I think we'll have 3 raid(tier)s like Dragonflight in the future.

Imo ideal length of season is 22 weeks (5.5 month), for fated one - 12 weeks. So 3 (pre-patch) + 2 (initial launch) + 22 + 22 + 22 + 12 = 83 weeks = 1 year 7-8 months

[Makorus]

Well that cinematic was top notch quality. Until Thrall came in, it felt like it was real.

Yearly but shorter expansions. Sagas...

Sniff, sniff, smells like a Total War like debacle in the making.

The quality was incredible. It was bordering on life-like until Thrall showed up with his reused BfA model.

[blaatschaap]

I really want a Tinker class but you're all huffing paint if you think a new class is going to fit in 10 talent points

The Druid ones shown were basically focus on treants or focus on moon spells. It doesn't magically change the class, it's a specialisation of a specialisation...

The Warrior one shown in the video makes subtle changes (ST ability now cleave) and new VFX, it doesn't change the core class into something completely different.

I'd roll a Tinker in a heartbeat but you all need to stop thinking a whole new class(es) will be added through this system

You need to understand this is all still a work in progress. This will all be expanded upon and more fleshed out. This is coming out a little under a year from now, not tomorrow. I expect this heroic talent choice will significantly impact gameplay