The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Reive]

they just announced classic+

finally...home

[Cheezits]

Is retail honestly dead with Classic+?

[Vakir]

So, Blizzard kind of killed leak season by giving away the next 3 expac fluff ?

I could not be any fucking happier.

You'll still see shit spammed like "Allied Race: High Elves" or something for Midnight, among other crap, but thank goodness.

[Chickat]

So the Binary riddler may have been right?
The last hint given was an image of a black planet cracked with gold lines according to ercap's imgur album. That is exactly what the background of the logo is this time - Azeroth cracking open.

Yeah but he said a revamp was coming right?

[Nymrohd]

Yeah I'm really excited about all of this but Season of Discovery sounds like something else. I love that none of it will be tested before release. It gives me hope that it might actually capture the vanilla feeling of no one knowing jack shit about what is going on where.

I mean they could completely change how classes play, they will add new content, they will eventually unlock dual spec.

[PotHockets]

So, Blizzard kind of killed leak season by giving away the next 3 expac fluff ?

Yeah now we get to just fight about whether WoW2 comes after The Last Titan or not.

[Samin]

Ok, if this screenshot had leaked before Blizzcon, how many people would have called it AI ?

People would put it next to the Arthas/LK in the same pose as proof this is what the AI based this on. They would claim that the artstyle isn't right. The sword is also rife for "obvious AI glitches" especially with the blurriness, the beard or hair as well maybe. Also the background is too plain, blurry, boring, whatever.

[Santandame]

Have to say I'm pretty unexcited about The War Within; the latter two expansions sound far more interesting on every possible level.

This is literally my exact thoughts. It feels like the first true filler expansion we’ve had. Much moreso than when people said that of MoP and DF.

It doesn’t help that the following two expansions sound a lot more interesting. It’s a double edged sword. If they announce War Within by itself, it’s incredibly meh. If they announce it with the other expansions it’s still meh but now you’re thinking about the other two expansions instead.

I appreciate that people see hyped, more power to them. The zones are beautiful and Xal looks great. My question is, why are you so hyped though? Knowing what we know so far. Also, the vast majority of this thread were actively shitting on an underground expansion during leak season, as well as one that would seem fairly light on features and system. Only for those same people to do a complete 180 (likely to do with the hype and Metzen, as well as shiny new zones) when said expansion was announced. It also hits all the points people were shitting on potentially getting Avaloren for - areas that are deemed and asspull that we have no idea about.

I’m not shitting on the hype, power to you if you are. I just want to know exactly why so many seem so hyped, especially considering the above paragraph.

I’ve seen a few say it feels like Warcraft. Does it? Not to me it doesn’t. It feels radically different to anything we’ve had before. Even SL felt more like Warcraft than this to me. Midnight and The Last Titan do have me hyped however and do sound like Warcraft.

[Nymrohd]

I could not be any fucking happier.

You'll still see shit spammed like "Allied Race: High Elves" or something for Midnight, among other crap, but thank goodness.

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I'd kind of expect high elves for Midnight

[Wangming]

So, Blizzard kind of killed leak season by giving away the next 3 expac fluff ?

I mean we can probably still speculate on the finer details, but the setting and the general plot is known. Might kill it, might help it focus more.

[Nebron]

Most of us would have called it fake.

Who amongst us was seriously expecting Anduin to return?

Certainly not I.

Actually, I don't think many people would call it fake. You see, this cinematic still has a very distinctive flavour of the most recent WoW cinematics, particallarly when it comes to facial expressions, ESPECIALLY, when it comes to humans. It's not quite photo-realistic and yet still very high detailed to aspire for photo-realism.
I can't put my finger what is it, but it just feels like WoW cinematic. Of course, it might be my a posteriori assumption, but whenever I look at this Anduin, I can very clearly see it's resemblence to the Battle for Azeroth cinematic, whenever he pulls out his sword just like that while shouting "for the alliance!".

And based on that, I think it would be super difficult - and I'm tempted to say impossible (but I'm oblivious to AI image creation capabilities) - to prompt such image

[ZyntosAran]

I wonder if we get Twilight Devestation as a rune.

[Sondrelk]

It's easy to say this after the fact, but looking at this I feel like I wouldn't have thought this was AI.

• You can tell that he's holding Shalamayne and I don't think AI can replicate it with that level of accuracy. It probably doesn't even know what it is.
• He's actually showing some emotion! Most AI cinematic fakes I've seen have the character looking at the camera with a completely dull expression.
• Just the level of detail is impressive, especially on the armor. I feel like AI would have messed up the lion head.
• Anduin with short hair and a beard is probably something AI can't do.

I imagien the debate would have more likely gone to whether it's someone cosplaying, which is a more likely thing than AI in this case. And even then it's not quite photorealistic, and also massively detailed.

Also let's be honest. It doesnt show anything but Anduin being back, and I think most people could assume that he would be back eventually, and probably with a cinematic to announce it.

[Santandame]

Is retail honestly dead with Classic+?

I’m a lot more excited for this, and I prefer retail to classic.

[Ersula]

Is retail honestly dead with Classic+?

I sure as hell would rather play Season of Discovery than Cata Classic. That's what's going to be dead.

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I'd kind of expect high elves for Midnight

Blood Elves & Void Elves are High Elves. They've said this 10,000 times.

[Kiria]

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I'd kind of expect high elves for Midnight

It will be the reunification of all 3 sub elves I think.

[Vakir]

Is retail honestly dead with Classic+?

Classic is the best thing that could happen to retail and vice-versa.

It's the same revenue source, minus expansion box prices and mtx. Enough people will dabble in one or the other while the concept is fresh and shiny while the remaining holdouts do their hardcore thing. Both will be worth investing resources into.

I sure as hell would rather play Season of Discovery than Cata Classic. That's what's going to be dead.

Also this.

Cata Classic will probably kill future "[expansion] Classic," albeit Mists is well-regarded now. But is anyone gonna play, like, a WoD Classic? The people who liked it for the sole thing to love about it, because of the raids, already did them.

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I'd kind of expect high elves for Midnight

You're not wrong given the setting, but how would that even work? Just different voiceover lines and racials?

By that point they should just, yeah, as said above, unify and make subraces a thing.

Voice Type 1, 2, etc. And go ahead and take it off body type restriction while you're at it like most modern games.

[kavikor]

Is retail honestly dead with Classic+?

Clasisc+ and Retail have such different gameplay loops these days, that this is crazy to think

[Pinksocking]

Ok, if this screenshot had leaked before Blizzcon, how many people would have called it AI ?

Wow ai looking good

[Sondrelk]

So, Blizzard kind of killed leak season by giving away the next 3 expac fluff ?

I suppose. Though I think they had to, otherwise the bleating would have been deafening when The War Within looks less like an expansion, and will likely end with only two raids.