1. #5401
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    Reading the Augmentation article, they talk about how its a new playstyle, the whole supporting buffs stuff. That does kinda open the door now to other ideas (hope I'm not opening a can of worms here, heh). Neat stuff.
    This will be a balancing nightmare, a nightmare for raid leaders and if chaining PI forced logs and ranking to reconsider how they work, an Augmenter would practically be required in your group. I just don't think it is a good idea.

  2. #5402
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    The whole recent class freedom thing has been an unmitigated carfire in terms of racial identity save for the revision to orc priests.
    Lightforged Warlock is the only weird one though. Old School Eredar/Highborne Warlocks, Feltotem, Grimtotem and Zandalari Demonaics should have been playable for a long time now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Ha she looks so stupid, I love it.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

  4. #5404
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Because right now, making Paladins, Druids, and Shamans more available is almost a guarantee. !
    I mean after Lightforged Warlocks, nothing needs to make sense anymore

  5. #5405
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    This will be a balancing nightmare, a nightmare for raid leaders and if chaining PI forced logs and ranking to reconsider how they work, an Augmenter would practically be required in your group. I just don't think it is a good idea.
    I do agree that a support style class will be challenging to balance around, but there's no putting the genie back in the bottle now.

  6. #5406
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Lightforged Warlock is the only weird one though. Old School Eredar/Highborne Warlocks, Feltotem, Grimtotem and Zandalari Demonaics should have been playable for a long time now.
    Highborne warlocks are only understandable in so far as there are Night Elf mages, which were also a mistake.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

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    Also mage revamp was absolutely needed. With rogues I don't think the issue is the talents, it's just undertuned.

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  9. #5409
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    I do agree that a support style class will be challenging to balance around, but there's no putting the genie back in the bottle now.
    It is just a massive fuck you to raid leaders.

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    I'd like actual lore/world building ideas to support the new race/class options, cause just doing it "cause freedom" isn't enough for me. I knew the third Evoker spec was coming though. Also that Galakrond skull tho.



    It is just a massive fuck you to raid leaders.

    Raid leaders that are bleeding edge, sure but not normal ones.


    Mag'har orcs being warlocks should jsut be literally impossible using Fel would turn them green.
    This to, without any world building details, it would just feel dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Lightforged Warlock is the only weird one though. Old School Eredar/Highborne Warlocks, Feltotem, Grimtotem and Zandalari Demonaics should have been playable for a long time now.
    Mag'har orcs being warlocks should jsut be literally impossible using Fel would turn them green.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Also let's not forget, we'll probably get datamining tonight? I'm sure additional secrets will be revealed.

  13. #5413
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    This will be a balancing nightmare, a nightmare for raid leaders and if chaining PI forced logs and ranking to reconsider how they work, an Augmenter would practically be required in your group. I just don't think it is a good idea.

    It's the loggers job to make it work, not blizzard to cater to dumb people and their third party parses.

    These comments are why they don't make things like these in the first place, aren't you tired of 17 years of the same holy trinity concept?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Mega Mythic Dungeon. Ok, cool and apparently....Iridakron?
    Probably similar way Guldan was our enemy in Hellfire Citadel. Would be strange to deal with him before ice dragon.

  15. #5415
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    I'd like actual lore/world building ideas to support the new race/class options, cause just doing it "cause freedom" isn't enough for me. I knew the third Evoker spec was coming though. Also that Galakrond skull tho.
    Only in extreme cases, I think.

    Remember the player who's a Draenei Warlock or whatever could be the entire Draenei Warlock player in the lore. If this was WoD, it sure would be. So it's not like their entire society suddenly embraces fel magic.

    So if we're just dealing with one character, I could think of a dozen ways in which that particular character isn't held back by whatever restrictions might affect the race overall. It's "the champion", after all.

  16. #5416
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    DAMN
    Good name for this area would be "Galakrond's Fall".

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    Your character isn't hardwired to not be a certain class outside of certain extreme examples like Lightforged and Void Elves. They can absolutely do something that the rest of their society scorns them for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
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    DAMN
    Now that's a big boy.

    I wonder how his encounter will work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Only in extreme cases, I think.

    Remember the player who's a Draenei Warlock or whatever could be the entire Draenei Warlock player in the lore. If this was WoD, it sure would be. So it's not like their entire society suddenly embraces fel magic.

    So if we're just dealing with one character, I could think of a dozen ways in which that particular character isn't held back by whatever restrictions might affect the race overall. It's "the champion", after all.

    Even so, there should be extra little details gameplay wise to justify this new addition. IMO even the most hardcore lore people could swallow it if such details were added.


    It's the loggers job to make it work, not blizzard to cater to dumb people and their third party parses.
    I agree...but I don't think there's anything wrong with the trinity.
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    Emerald Dream (Rift of Aln Theory) and Rafaam ressurection plotline coming together nicely now.
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