The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Viridiel]

I'm not sure why some people are under the impression we won't have full expansions. Just because there's a large overarching theme doesn't mean the individual stories in each expansion won't have a fulfilling narrative with several major content patches exploring areas and concepts we haven't been told about.

[Teriz]

Hmm sad to see the conversation devolve into this. I believe the content looks good. People wanted Xal, they’re getting Xal. People wanted Nerubians, they’re getting Nerubians. People wanted Void and Void elf content, they’re getting it. Kind of wild that people are complaining.

Also, and those hero talents are going to be an incredible way to further customize your chosen class. If Blizzard can keep up with the patch cycle (as they somewhat demonstrated with Dragonflight) we got some good times ahead. I think it’s a time to celebrate imo.

[Jaggler]

Yes and I do think I will love this, but I don't see it as a new BIG feature.

The problem with these "big features" like f.e. Garrisons, Artifacts or the Heart of Azeroth is, that they may be big, but they are "throwaways" destined to be gone after one expansion. Blizzard currently is about introducing evergreen features, that can carry over multiple expansions, but for that to be attainable they have to be a bit more manageable in scale.

It's a product of the philosophy shift between the Legion-BfA-SL era to DF and beyond.

[Woggmer]

Please Blizzard, don't Villain-bat the trolls. It's bad enough most named troll characters are dead.

They probably won't, but if anything... the only possibility of troll unification is through the Troll Heritage Armor questline.

The best possibility is if the Darkspear Troll team up with the Zandalari and try to reunify the tribes.. Visiting places like Zul'Farrak, Zul'Aman, Zul'Gurub and maybe Zul'Drak to find whoever is left... Settling any disagreements and re-establishing the peace.

I don't know if this could fit as part of the heritage armor stuff or be its own separate thing... especially if a big threat like the void is involved heading for Quel'thalas.



Or worst case scenario... We get Void Trolls.

[rainhard]

I haven't seen any gameplay footage of the new expansion. Is this the first time you can't play it at a Blizzcon?

I also noticed we didn't see any new gear and neither did we see the neutral mobs in the azj kahet so it's giving me vibes of them being slightly behind.

[Golden Yak]

Hrm, future leaks will now need to encompass multi-expansions sagas. Even more wild and deranged concepts will be called for!

Hmm sad to see the conversation devolve into this. I believe the content looks good. People wanted Xal, they’re getting Xal. People wanted Nerubians, they’re getting Nerubians. People wanted Void and Void elf content, they’re getting it. Kind of wild that people are complaining.

I wanted different nerubians, in a different place! Nyaah!

[Jaggler]

Hrm, future leaks will now need to encompass multi-expansions sagas. Even more wild and deranged concepts will be called for!



I wanted different nerubians, in a different place! Nyaah!

The Worldsoul saga is merely a prelude for the tinker saga, which will span over 5 expansions beacause only that will be enough for our mechanical overlords.

[Harbour]

All I want to know from deep dive is if we will get regular content patches, so every expansion will have 2 more raids besides basic one and new features.
If yes, then it's all right.
If not, then they sell us glorified patches 90$ per each.
Metzen tried to sell the idea of the story being too big for one expansion, but from the description of each expansion they seem lightweight on story and characters.
Three main characters for the first expansion.
Basically just Quelthalas for second one.
Northrend for third.
This sounds very sketchy. Nothing In them sound like something that in combination would be too big for one expansion. In fact by the description all three would have fit into whole Legion expansion, except cost 90$x3.

[Varodoc]

Wonder what Varodoc thinks about the new Alleria look.

If it's our first look at Void Hunters, then that hero spec will already be one of the most popular.

The idea of a Void-wielding hunter who infuses their arrow attacks with shadow energy will be one of the most popular hero talents.

Dark Rangers can have their fun with summoning a zombie puppy like in Legion.

[Sondrelk]

I'm not sure why some people are under the impression we won't have full expansions. Just because there's a large overarching theme doesn't mean the individual stories in each expansion won't have a fulfilling narrative with several major content patches exploring areas and concepts we haven't been told about.

Because the concepts we are shown don't all sound like full expansions. This coupled with Dragonflight ending with Amirdrassil despite evidently having no production issues like WoD or SL.

A full underground expansion lasting two years would probably feel claustrophobic, and people would be clamoring for the next expansion, and I think Blizzard knows this.

TWW releasing, then one, maybe two raids, then done. Move on to Midnight and Quel'thalas for the same.

As three full expansions lasting six years it would take forever and probably end up really boring. But as three big "patches" of a bigger expansion it makes perfect sense. It's the right amount of time spent in each area, and it's the right amount of time spent on the storyline.

[Makabreska]

I also noticed we didn't see any new gear and neither did we see the neutral mobs in the azj kahet so it's giving me vibes of them being slightly behind.

There is still a Deep Dive today.

[Teriz]

Hrm, future leaks will now need to encompass multi-expansions sagas. Even more wild and deranged concepts will be called for!



I wanted different nerubians, in a different place! Nyaah!

Yak!! Good to see you. As creator of the Spider Kingdom concept, what did you think of the Nerubian zones coming in TWW?

[zirr]

Hmm sad to see the conversation devolve into this. I believe the content looks good. People wanted Xal, they’re getting Xal. People wanted Nerubians, they’re getting Nerubians. People wanted Void and Void elf content, they’re getting it. Kind of wild that people are complaining.

Also, and those hero talents are going to be an incredible way to further customize your chosen class. If Blizzard can keep up with the patch cycle (as they somewhat demonstrated with Dragonflight) we got some good times ahead. I think it’s a time to celebrate imo.

You are correct! I will try to see all the positivies instead!

Class skins is an absolute W, as is Xal!

[Teriz]

All I want to know from deep dive is if we will get regular content patches, so every expansion will have 2 more raids besides basic one and new features.
If yes, then it's all right.
If not, then they sell us glorified patches 90$ per each.
Metzen tried to sell the idea of the story being too big for one expansion, but from the description of each expansion they seem lightweight on story and characters.
Three main characters for the first expansion.
Basically just Quelthalas for second one.
Northrend for third.
This sounds very sketchy. Nothing In them sound like something that in combination would be too big for one expansion. In fact by the description all three would have fit into whole Legion expansion, except cost 90$x3.

Shouldn’t we save this criticism until we know more about the upcoming content?

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You are correct! I will try to see all the positivies instead!

Well at least do that until we get more info. Too many assumptions flying around.

[Pyrophax]

So new kahet is new Suramar, as i understand?

[Woggmer]

Hmm sad to see the conversation devolve into this. I believe the content looks good. People wanted Xal, they’re getting Xal. People wanted Nerubians, they’re getting Nerubians. People wanted Void and Void elf content, they’re getting it. Kind of wild that people are complaining.

Also, and those hero talents are going to be an incredible way to further customize your chosen class. If Blizzard can keep up with the patch cycle (as they somewhat demonstrated with Dragonflight) we got some good times ahead. I think it’s a time to celebrate imo.

I think the cinematic left a bad impression on people about what to expect.

[Baedril]

If it's our first look at Void Hunters, then that hero spec will already be one of the most popular.

The idea of a Void-wielding hunter who infuses their arrow attacks with shadow energy will be one of the most popular hero talents.

Dark Rangers can have their fun with summoning a zombie puppy like in Legion.

Looking at what happened in SL with covenants, I think the most popular one will be the one that is the best in [pve/pvp depending on what you do].

[Varodoc]

You got promised basically an entire Quel' Thalas revamp and belf themed expansion, how about you let us dwarf fans have something for once since they have never been a main focus for an xpac in well.....ever. Instead of the 30 millionth elf centric expansion in a row. Hell even in the "dwarf" expac, the main "protagonist" of the plot still seems to be an elf! (Alleria)

Get ye gone with yer bearded racism!

Dwarves are often praised online as chads through memes, but in the actual facts, you rarely ever see dwarves in-game.

Dwarves are not a popular race that can hype up an expansion.

But Void elves are.

Look at the crowd reactions. Everyone is hyped for Alleria and Xal'atath, much less reaction to Earthen.

[Reman]

This was maybe unnoticed but this screenshot suggests Dracthyrs will be opened up to new classes. This level 13 is wearing like 10.2 transmog and carrying a dagger on the side. Druid or rogue?

https://media.mmo-champion.com/image...r/wowwnp09.jpg

[FelPlague]

I also noticed we didn't see any new gear and neither did we see the neutral mobs in the azj kahet so it's giving me vibes of them being slightly behind.

We did see some new gear but rather basic stuff.
Also we did see the neutral mobs, we see the spider market, they showed it before they spoke about it which was a bit odd. But I guess she fell behind explaining stuff so got desynced from the video a bit.