1. #54761
    Quote Originally Posted by Baraden View Post
    Could the Isle of Dorn just be a different name for Avaloren?
    They showed it on the world map. It's southeast of Kalimdor, not West.

  2. #54762
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinksocking View Post
    yes, it does sound like the world is being revamped

    return to the old world

    what? u dont think northrend is gonna be revamped for 13.0? just no new zones returning to old ones?
    I think they might revamp 1 or 2 zones like BFA did with Darkshore and Silithus, and then we will get new original zones like entering a portal or riding the Vindicaar to travel to a Void world and a few zones there. At the very least Silvermoon will probably get remade, hopefully become a neutral city that can be visited by both Horde and Alliance players.

  3. #54763
    Quote Originally Posted by Keyalios View Post
    Or it's just phased. Undead still start in Tirisfal despite it being gone for a long time. Gilneans still start in... Gilneas.
    Or the main bit is the Isle where the Sunwell is and not the starting area.

  4. #54764
    I’ll say one more thing and piss off for a year


    13.0 will be fought on nothing but familiar territory and I can’t wait for people to say they were lazy for it

  5. #54765
    Quote Originally Posted by Dnusha View Post
    thats my point we aren't fighting any void lords outside of "avatar of sargeras -like" void lords that fit narrative.
    Good point. I imagine a raid where sargeras and/or azeroth is fighting a void lord in the background, destroying planets as mere afterthoughts would be quite the raid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinksocking View Post
    yes, it does sound like the world is being revamped

    return to the old world

    what? u dont think northrend is gonna be revamped for 13.0? just no new zones returning to old ones?
    It sounds like he thinks the 'return' is time travel rather than modern day events taking place in those zones. Wild interpretation.

  7. #54767
    Quote Originally Posted by yaywn View Post
    I’ll say one more thing and piss off for a year


    13.0 will be fought on nothing but familiar territory and I can’t wait for people to say they were lazy for it
    I still don't trust you as you admitted to lying to us. But I will be excited too and cautiously hopeful.

  8. #54768
    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    They showed it on the world map. It's southeast of Kalimdor, not West.
    Isle of Dorn is Khaz Algar. It says so on the website.

  9. #54769
    I really want a Tinker class but you're all huffing paint if you think a new class is going to fit in 10 talent points

    The Druid ones shown were basically focus on treants or focus on moon spells. It doesn't magically change the class, it's a specialisation of a specialisation...

    The Warrior one shown in the video makes subtle changes (ST ability now cleave) and new VFX, it doesn't change the core class into something completely different.

    I'd roll a Tinker in a heartbeat but you all need to stop thinking a whole new class(es) will be added through this system

  10. #54770
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh View Post
    What? I'm thinking there's a language barrier here. I said it was natural, as in, how he said it was perfectly normal for the intended meaning.
    Just add them to ignore list and stop having to see the replies. It's the only way to make this forum remotely functional.

  11. #54771
    I hope they go full Suramar political intrigue with the Nerubians, they deserve it.

  12. #54772
    Which leak was it that originally mentioned the Earthen as a new race?

  13. #54773
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    We'll have to wait and see. It'd be hilarious if Undermine is in 11.1 or 11.2 and they release a Tinker class mid-expansion.
    If there was ever a time for undermine it is now.

    I'm sure it'll be a mega dungeon and or zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    I think that’s an extremely big assumption to make just because someone isn’t a fan of what has been presented so far. Not everyone has to be hyped to the extreme over the new shiny reveal. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion and we all have different things we’d be excited for and underwhelmed for.

    There’s several things I’d have been excited for, as I’ve detailed in this thread several times. What seems to be a half baked underground expansion devoid of well known names and underground locations in the lore, no new class, and an allied race that no one asked for is not something I would get excited for. If you do - more power to you and I wouldn’t tell you that you’re wrong for it.

    The art direction is nice and I like the idea of “class skins” but that’s as far as my enthusiasm goes.

    It’s not a very appealing concept to me in the slightest whatsoever at the moment. But to say I’m too irony poisoned to be hyped for anything Warcraft related is just an obnoxious point to make.
    Are you at all excited for Quel'thalas or Northrend revamp?

  15. #54775
    Quote Originally Posted by Matticus777 View Post
    I really want a Tinker class but you're all huffing paint if you think a new class is going to fit in 10 talent points

    The Druid ones shown were basically focus on treants or focus on moon spells. It doesn't magically change the class, it's a specialisation of a specialisation...

    The Warrior one shown in the video makes subtle changes (ST ability now cleave) and new VFX, it doesn't change the core class into something completely different.

    I'd roll a Tinker in a heartbeat but you all need to stop thinking a whole new class(es) will be added through this system
    I think there's plenty to say in favor of the implicit "subclass" system at play here, anyway. Necromancer Warlocks, Warden Rogues, Dark Ranger Hunters etc. are on the table now, and I honestly think there's more new flavors opened up because of it than there ever would be with a single new class.
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  16. #54776
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    "Slayer" and "colossus" names for warriors hero system sound kinda boring when it comes to just imagining it, mountain thane is pretty good tho.
    What do you expect. It's warrior, the most bland class in the game.
    You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.

  17. #54777
    Quote Originally Posted by PFKlax View Post
    Which leak was it that originally mentioned the Earthen as a new race?
    Earthen being mentioned doesn't mean anything because they were mentioned in the Khaz Algar report

  18. #54778
    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    Are you at all excited for Quel'thalas or Northrend revamp?
    But when are those coming? If these are 3 and 5 years in the future, how much does it matter? World Revamp goes to 7 years then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyalios View Post
    It did leak. It's just people didn't pay attention to the leak, like last time.
    Leaking 30 mins before hardly constitutes a leak imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PFKlax View Post
    Which leak was it that originally mentioned the Earthen as a new race?
    All of them.

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